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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 21-May-2019 21:59:40
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| Time for me to go for now .
Will have a look at the Graphcis card survey when Han's posts the results .
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 22-May-2019 9:44:35
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I did requested a quote for non warranty repairs. |
So, can you shed any light on what actually happened to your board? I can't imagine you carelessly spilling liquid on such an expensive piece of hardware, but at the same time, neither can I image A-EON/AmigaKit to be making it all up.
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 22-May-2019 10:43:27
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I have no Idea.
Computer was working ok in the morning on 11 Oct 2018. Turned it of after about 8:00am left it until about 4:30pm . Would not restart . Was on a UPS and the power supply had no problem and is still working.
There was nothing on the boad that I could see with a casual inspection when I removed it and packed it for return . It appears that A-Eonit had the returned motherboard for about was 5 1/2 months before initial inspection.
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> From: "" > Date: 15 October 2018 at 10:13:39 BST > To: "Amiga Kit Amiga Store" > Subject: Enquiry from Amiga Kit Amiga Store > > Re : Order # - Cyrus Plus Motherboard (P5020/2Ghz) with Enhancer Software . SN(MTB): . > > Motherboard has developed a problem and is not working as of Thursday 11 Oct 2018. > No on-board LED activity when power applied . > Have tested with 2 different power supplies which have tested as working ok. > Requesting a Returns Authorization Number for returning the Motherboard for Repairs .
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 22-May-2019 10:47:53
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| @Hans & @Trixie
Ah! I didn't know. Thank you guys. I'll look into getting one.
With the talk of supporting Southern Island Cards I didn't think it supported the newer Volcanic Islands, etc. I'll be pleased to use one of those
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RX550 and RX560's seem to be out of stock. Will the RX570 work fine? (More specifically: Gigabyte RX570 - GV-RX570GAMING-4GD)? Last edited by gonegahgah on 22-May-2019 at 11:04 AM. Last edited by gonegahgah on 22-May-2019 at 11:01 AM.
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 23-May-2019 7:31:40
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RX 570 *should* work. However, try to get a 550/560 if you can, because those are well tested. We currently have a known issue with RX 580 cards & Warp3D Nova, and I'm not yet sure if the RX 570 is also affected.
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Last edited by Hans on 23-May-2019 at 07:32 AM.
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 23-May-2019 9:07:57
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Hi,
I've bought the newest Radeon Driver upon release, but I'm a bit reluctant to swap the graphics card again. I have an ATI Radeon 270X with a big very quiet cooler (Arctic Accelero S3 + Turbo Module), it's quieter than the CPU-fan.
Will there be any gain swapping to a Radeon RX560?
I might install one in my X5000, but the X1000 is that more stable, I'm not using the X5000 at all ATM. |
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 24-May-2019 11:14:01
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Amigo1 wrote: @Hans
Hi,
I've bought the newest Radeon Driver upon release, but I'm a bit reluctant to swap the graphics card again. I have an ATI Radeon 270X with a big very quiet cooler (Arctic Accelero S3 + Turbo Module), it's quieter than the CPU-fan.
Will there be any gain swapping to a Radeon RX560? |
Not really. You gain dynamic power management, but you lose legacy Warp3D support (i.e., no MiniGL).
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 24-May-2019 12:24:19
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Hans wrote: @Amigo1
Not really. You gain dynamic power management, but you lose legacy Warp3D support (i.e., no MiniGL).
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which is the very feature I was looking forward to and so happy you have implemented. :)
Since I've supported your achievement with the purchase of the latest Driver, I will just wait a little more for a new GFX-card. I remember somewhere some work with WAZP-3D was ongoing, can't remember exactly, isn't it supposed to be a replacement for Warp3D?
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 25-May-2019 6:21:00
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I remember somewhere some work with WAZP-3D was ongoing, can't remember exactly, isn't it supposed to be a replacement for Warp3D? |
Wazp3D has an experimental Warp3D Nova backend. Once that's stable, then it'll provide backward compatibility with Warp3D.
In parallel, Daytona is working on MGLReloaded, which will provide faster hardware acceleration for MiniGL (again, via Warp3D Nova).
However, both these projects are still works in progress...
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 29-May-2019 14:44:55
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Anyone Help
im having some issues with finding a decent Radeon RX card to work, tried a RX580 8gig no good, tried a RX560 4gig no good either, is there a big differnce from the RX560 2gig and a 4gig? ive installed new RX drivers
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Maybe Polaris next year, if there are benchmarks with show real benefits. |
One obvious benefit is that the Polaris driver supports power management. I used to use a low-end Radeon R5 230 for some time, because I was afraid that switching to a Polaris card would greatly increase fan noise as well as power consumption. None of it turned out to be true with this model. I don't look back. |
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 29-May-2019 18:25:53
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Anyone Help
im having some issues with finding a decent Radeon RX card to work, tried a RX580 8gig no good, tried a RX560 4gig no good either, is there a big differnce from the RX560 2gig and a 4gig? ive installed new RX drivers
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has the RX driver been added to your kickstart file?_________________
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 29-May-2019 20:56:47
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hi sounds nice and easy, how do i go about doing that? thanks for you help
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Anyone Help
im having some issues with finding a decent Radeon RX card to work, tried a RX580 8gig no good, tried a RX560 4gig no good either, is there a big differnce from the RX560 2gig and a 4gig? ive installed new RX drivers
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has the RX driver been added to your kickstart file? |
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 30-May-2019 5:01:56
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how do i go about doing that? |
The driver won't get picked up by the system unless it is loaded from the Kicklayout. You need to go to your SYS:Kickstart/ drawer, open the "Kicklayout" file in a text editor, find the line which says "MODULE Kickstart/RadeonHD.chip" and add another line below it, saying
MODULE Kickstart/RadeonRX.chip
then save the file and reboot.
I don't have a RadeonHD card installed so I originally commented out the RadeonHD.chip line. But for some reason my machine wouldn't boot after that, so I put it back in. Does the RadeonRX driver need the HD driver installed to work? I have no idea but better safe than sorry. So now my Kicklayout file has (among the other lines:
MODULE Kickstart/RadeonHD.chip MODULE Kickstart/RadeonRX.chip
Hope this helps.
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 30-May-2019 8:01:57
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Ok cool, ive soughted it,, Fantastic
Radeon RX460 4gig card, running sweet Quote:
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how do i go about doing that? |
The driver won't get picked up by the system unless it is loaded from the Kicklayout. You need to go to your SYS:Kickstart/ drawer, open the "Kicklayout" file in a text editor, find the line which says "MODULE Kickstart/RadeonHD.chip" and add another line below it, saying
MODULE Kickstart/RadeonRX.chip
then save the file and reboot.
I don't have a RadeonHD card installed so I originally commented out the RadeonHD.chip line. But for some reason my machine wouldn't boot after that, so I put it back in. Does the RadeonRX driver need the HD driver installed to work? I have no idea but better safe than sorry. So now my Kicklayout file has (among the other lines:
MODULE Kickstart/RadeonHD.chip MODULE Kickstart/RadeonRX.chip
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 30-May-2019 8:03:22
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Radeon RX560 4gig ... |
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 30-May-2019 8:12:56
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i got a Radeon RX580 8gig working also now, i got a whole pile of cards here that im testing, spencer game not having it.. everything is speedy/faster to say the least..
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 30-May-2019 22:23:10
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i got a Radeon RX580 8gig working also now, i got a whole pile of cards here that im testing, |
Can you benchmark the different cards and post the details here for future reference of others considering what card to buy. |
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 31-May-2019 7:32:39
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right ok new to this
what do i use to benchmark? Quote:
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i got a Radeon RX580 8gig working also now, i got a whole pile of cards here that im testing, |
Can you benchmark the different cards and post the details here for future reference of others considering what card to buy. |
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 31-May-2019 10:42:43
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Turns out my girlfriend's son replaced his Gigabyte GV-RX560GAMING OC-2GD with a higher spec'd NVidea card.
So lucky me I've got that RX560 now
Just have to get the Amiga X1000 back up and running and fully update!!! Should probably do that first before putting in the new card I'm guessing.
May have to reinstall my system too because I have a 4K monitor. I believe I only originally set my computer up as HD but I want to use the full 4K if I can? |
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Re: 2019 AmigaOS 4.x Graphics Card Survey Posted on 31-May-2019 13:06:10
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gonegahgah wrote: @Hans
Turns out my girlfriend's son replaced his Gigabyte GV-RX560GAMING OC-2GD with a higher spec'd NVidea card.
So lucky me I've got that RX560 now
Just have to get the Amiga X1000 back up and running and fully update!!! Should probably do that first before putting in the new card I'm guessing. |
Actually, because you have an X1000 you may want to put the card in first, to test that it works. I couldn't get my X1000 to even boot with a Radeon RX 550 plugged in. These cards have UEFI firmware instead of VGABIOS, and the X1000's firmware seems to have difficulty with that.
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May have to reinstall my system too because I have a 4K monitor. I believe I only originally set my computer up as HD but I want to use the full 4K if I can? |
That shouldn't be necessary. The driver should pick up the 4K screen modes automatically, so long as you have DDC enabled (in ScreenMode prefs, on the Monitors tab). If not, you may have timing limits set for your monitor that remove the 4K/UHD modes. Those are also editable via ScreenMode prefs.
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