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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
Posted on 4-Jun-2021 10:22:25
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again if there would have been a chance to get all the rights Trevor D. would not have financed a separate branch. Either Ben H. is not willing to sell or the amount of money he wants is unrealistic. Mike already said that he is not against OS4 or even 3.1.4 so it is a matter of coming to agreement. Trevor is mainly interested in OS4 and Cloanto mainly in 68k (classic) so I do not see there a basic problem. The problem I see is owning Hyperion right now.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
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Hyperion's financial statements were available and linked from a post on this site. It looked like they were losing money each year selling AmigaOS 4 only and AmigaOS 3.1.4 for the 68k turned things around for them. It appeared that they made several hundred thousand euros off AmigaOS 3.1.4 as I recall.


Perhaps 68K Amiga install base is still larger than PowerPC Amiga's install base.

I bought AmigaOS 3.1.4 for my bro's A500 (rev 6, Wicher 508 accel) and my A1200 (rev 1.D1, waiting for 68LC060 accel card to arrive). I bought AmigaOS 3.2 for the mentioned Amigas.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
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Does he own everything? Last license text says “developed under contract” or something similar, I guess that’s the settlement contract, it no longer says “copyright all rights reserved”

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
Posted on 21-Jun-2021 11:49:57
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Reference to the quote from Ben on Amiganews.de:
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"There is no issue of 'insolvency', there was failure to file the yearly account for 2019 in time due to the accountancy firm not having the time to complete this in time apparently due to the COVID restrictions including but not limited to 'work from home' restrictions and very limited staff allowed in offices. It would be inappropriate for me to comment further without approval for my lawyer."

Source - Hyperion: Ben Hermans temporarily relieved from director position


New - 2019 filed, with .pdf

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
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@NutsAboutAmiga

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Does he own everything?

No, not at all.
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Last license text says “developed under contract” or something similar, I guess that’s the settlement contract, it no longer says “copyright all rights reserved”

The very first releases of OS 3.1.4 said "All Rights Reserved", but it was quickly changed (along with a few other rather ...ahm... face-palm-worthy changes) to "Developed under License". The licenser in this mess would be Cloanto today. Licenses can be reworked and clarified, and they can also be revoked.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
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@OlafS25

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@NutsAboutAmiga

again if there would have been a chance to get all the rights Trevor D. would not have financed a separate branch. Either Ben H. is not willing to sell or the amount of money he wants is unrealistic. Mike already said that he is not against OS4 or even 3.1.4 so it is a matter of coming to agreement. Trevor is mainly interested in OS4 and Cloanto mainly in 68k (classic) so I do not see there a basic problem. The problem I see is owning Hyperion right now.


The only problem I see is the owner of Hyperion right now!

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
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Source - Hyperion: Ben Hermans temporarily relieved from director position



A lawyer's lawyer, dealing with the compulsory dissolution of a company that hasn't a director anymore and can't appoint one, whose only asset is an IP it never really owned, and which is now theoretically owned by a different company.

This, my friends, doesn't even match the classic picture of vultures feeding on a corpse, anymore.
This is... maggots feeding over the corpses of vultures who died eating the venomous carcass of a rattlesnake.

VOOOOOOOOR ON

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
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Wow!!! What a vivid image! Please don't try and draw that...ever! I think I have a Tibetan 'Sky Burial' type picture in my mind. Though I don't think the carcasses stick around long enough to get maggots. Maybe a Tibetan Mastiff dog feasting on the vulture carcasses would finish the montage?

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
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@thread

Ben Hermans restored

document filed today

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Ben Hermans restored


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BthNjd_jUl4

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It's weird how they could make him jump 10-foot walls, but they couldn't fix his bald spot.

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
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It's weird how they could make him jump 10-foot walls, but they couldn't fix his bald spot.



You're talking about Amigaos 4, right?

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@thread

Ben Hermans BV 2020 filed

the .pdf

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Posted on 22-Jul-2021 19:16:25
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@number6

I'd like to see Ben Hermans get audited, and find out how shady his books really are.

One thing that does bring some joy is the fact that Ben finally tried to bully the wrong guy, and Cloanto has had the balls to stand up to him and fight back. I can't wait for Ben to be taken down and kicked out of this community for good.

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@thread

Hyperion Entertainment 2020 filed

the .pdf

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Posted on 13-Aug-2021 6:39:20
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@number6

Maybe some accountant type here can explain the math that is shown on that financial report.

I see the correctly shown change of equity from 2017 to 2018, based on the reported 2018 profits of over 150,000 Euros, which dropped the negative equity from about -525,000 Euros to around -375,000 Euros, but how did Hyperion get from about -375,000 Euros in 2018 (that's a negative number), to +26,551 Euros (a positive number) in 2019, with their Profit/Loss statement only showing +1,375 Euros of profit for that year???

I'm also very suspicious of that 2018 profit of over 150,000 Euros, where did that come from? Was that the money being pumped into the company by the poor sap of a partner that was being milked for everything he made elsewhere in his career and couldn't afford to pay his bills? I thought he was already gone from Hyperion before that year?

Anyway, those numbers seem highly suspicious to me, but a slick used car salesman like Ben can probably squirm his way out of just about any kind of questionable behavior. Just look at the money he "supposedly" lost in a cab ride, and never had to pay back. When is this community going to see the light and stop supporting this ....... (you fill in the expletive title for him).

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Re: Hyperion Entertainment - Reorg/Restructure
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@thread

Article concerning something I briefly mentioned concerning more recent change in directorship of Hyperion:

english

german

Added:
further on this thread's topic

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@number6: Funny, because when I pointed out, that Ben will of course come back as Hyperion director because the matter is more a formal thing (and we should consider what Hermans said official) I was called naiv and "LOLed" (especially from our Julian Assange of Amiga-"journalism")

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