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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 15-Oct-2019 3:20:01
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With all copyright holders present at the very same show and not giving a damn, I would say that speaks volumes - they have given up, they cannot afford to protect their own IP. |
And hence...
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=9¬e=23869&z=htvntULast edited by kolla on 15-Oct-2019 at 03:21 AM. Last edited by kolla on 15-Oct-2019 at 03:20 AM.
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 15-Oct-2019 7:35:13
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Well, each V4 sold on the A34 was bundled with a legit 3.1 ROM licence. I personnaly pasted with TuKo a sticker licence on each case. We didn't bundled any operating system in the package, the user has to provide his own. Therefore, I see no point for the copyright holders to "give a damn".
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 15-Oct-2019 9:10:01
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Great - perhaps we all should be proficient in making inquiries rather than assumptions ... or accusations. |
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 15-Oct-2019 9:40:48
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Then you have no problem telling from whom you licensed the legit 3.1 ROMs?
If there was no distribution of OS, then perhaps you should correct "Lord A1k" on your very own forum, who says he ended up with empty CF card, because "all other with Coffin R55 was selling out" - it _really_ gives a certain impression.
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=23994&z=nrLp2N
EDIT: As does "Tim D":
"where did you get coffin R55?" "It came with my V4"
http://www.apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=1¬e=23987 Last edited by kolla on 15-Oct-2019 at 10:44 AM. Last edited by kolla on 15-Oct-2019 at 10:44 AM.
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 15-Oct-2019 14:04:21
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With all copyright holders present at the very same show and not giving a damn, I would say that speaks volumes - they have given up, they cannot afford to protect their own IP. |
Neither party has exhausted funding opportunities
but more importantly, funding is -not- the current thrust of any of the parties involved.
This -is-
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Therefore, I do not believe what you are writing about is any more than a distraction for all parties.
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 15-Oct-2019 14:19:18
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The community at large clearly has no issues ignoring copyrights and licenses, distributing the IP of "the parties". The only little distraction here, is the legal circus, but it doesn't really affect anyone other than "the parties". _________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 15-Oct-2019 17:04:55
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Then you have no problem telling from whom you licensed the legit 3.1 ROMs?
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Sure, each V4 sold at the A34 has an official Cloanto license bundled. Each purchaser can easily control that just by looking under the V4.
Thanks for the links, I took contact with Lord A1k and Tim D.
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 15-Oct-2019 23:15:18
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Totally agree many folks seem far too complacent about respecting intellectual property, copyright, etc. |
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 16-Oct-2019 21:36:41
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Back to topic:
Amitopia article
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 16-Oct-2019 22:03:56
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Long vid from Stephen Jones
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 16-Oct-2019 22:21:02
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| @thread
Also from Amitopia:
beyond closed doors
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 16-Oct-2019 22:34:19
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A nice trifecta of links! Thanks.
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Let me rephrase that: Stephen's video was good. One out of three is better than none. 
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 20-Oct-2019 17:57:28
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Thanks for the links and pics.
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 21-Oct-2019 10:02:40
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christmas perhaps... the question is which one  |
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 21-Oct-2019 12:59:51
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pavlor wrote: @number6 and others
Thanks for the links and pics.
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Yeah, I'm sure A-EON are in the final stages of signing off the box artwork for the Tower57 exclusive Tabor bundle as we speak! It MUST be the case that the sound driver was secretly finished in early October but it was decided that Amigans can't cope with updates so a leaked ETA of "When it's Done! " was released instead.
In the mean time everyone and their dog has allocated their Tabor fund money to the Vampire V4 Standalone or spent the money on recapping their Classics etc.
Own goal A-EON IMHO. I suggest placing your pre-order on a recapping scheme for your future Tabor now and A-EON will recap your Tabor board currently sitting at AmigaKit prior to shipping
A-EON: "WE'LL SELL YOU TABOR A1222s WHEN WE'RE READY & NOT A MOMENT SOONER!! DON"T EVEN ASK US ABOUT IT UNTIL THEN OR WE'LL FORCE YOU TO BUY 'FUTURE AMIGA' MAGAZINE!!!!"Last edited by BigD on 21-Oct-2019 at 01:03 PM. Last edited by BigD on 21-Oct-2019 at 01:02 PM. Last edited by BigD on 21-Oct-2019 at 01:01 PM.
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 21-Oct-2019 16:00:20
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I hope Tabor will be available for this Christmas. |
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 21-Oct-2019 16:03:54
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as far as I know no date
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 21-Oct-2019 16:21:48
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Since Trevor has mentioned it often previously and since Costel did say on OS4welt that Hyperion's side was done... Don't bother checking for the links I've given unless you are a member. This portion of OS4welt which reported the above, is now -not- readable by non members.
I would think the topic of the ISO was brought up again at the show. It always is. People are confusing the delay over drivers with the delay over the ISO, imo.
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 21-Oct-2019 17:01:02
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What's the ISO? A DVD Disc image of a Tabor version of 'OS 4.1 Pre-release not quite ready beta - please buy Enhancer so that it's not quite so ropey'?
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Re: Amiga 34 - 12th and 13th of October 2019 Posted on 21-Oct-2019 17:03:46
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