Initially I don't think it will matter because OS4 will currently probably only appeal to it's existing fanbase.

I wouldn't even contemplate marketing OS4 as an alternative OS until we have at-least a half decent browser and made significant progress on the Open office project.

I agree with Legion that developers should make this a concerted priority and the rest us should dig deep and support such efforts to help make Amiga a real viable competitor as an alternative OS.

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Do i care if Vista is coming at same time ? No !
Im only interested in amigaos4. There sure are other stuff
released at christmas but as i said nothing of interest ;)

So the releasedate is super wonderfull christmas present.
Even if its released as upd5. Final or update, both works :)

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tell us something we don't know for once. No really. Just once.

Coconuts kill more people in the world than sharks do. Approximately 150 people are killed each year by coconuts.

In ancient Japan, public contests were held to see who could fart the loudest and longest.

One million people each year are bitten by animals in the United States. In New York City, approximately 1,600 people are bitten by other humans every year.

111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321

A blue whale's heart is the size of a Volkswagen Beetle.

Fifteen people are known to have been crushed to death tilting vending machines towards them in the hope of a free can of soda.

In Cleveland, Ohio it is illegal to catch mice without a hunting license.

A survey reported that 12% of Americans think that Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.

Only 1 person in 2 billion will live to be 116 (Dietmar's personal note: hurry up, OS4 team).

@Tigger

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Have you really heard porting is in the works for Samantha?

It seems I was in error about Samantha, I asked others & none can recall reading what I thought I read. Samantha wasn't even shown at Amiwest.

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@dietmar

haha, best post of the week. :)


@thread

It's strange how some people think Amiga is still in competition with major operating systems, or that other platforms see AmigaOS as a threat. You guys have to realise that Amiga is in a rebuilding stage right now. I love the platform, but if OS4 final with hardware is released at the end of this year, I still cant reccomend it to my dad because we're lacking a browser and java (just an example). We've got some nice software, (a mixture of original stuff, ports, and commercial), but we're still going to be playing catch up for a while. We've been out of the game for too long.

@jahc

My thoughts exactly. When I first read it I laughed out loud, then came the "... oh wait, he's serious!"

Seriously, this is like me not wanting to open up a lemonade stand the day a Walmart opens up in my neighbourhood, because it may affect my sales.

Where is coming this Christmas 2006 stuff for Vista? I read today and previously that Vista is out in November for Business/Builders. In January for the masses.

If new hardware and OS4 is out for Christmas 2006 it will be quiet and my AmigaOne and I will be happy.

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I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

I am doing my best to use my Amiga 3000 for as much as possible. I have upgraded everything but the processor which is a much importnt next step to be able to use it for web browsing.

I am tired of Windows and the requirements of Vista have me determined to never use Windows again. I will do this. I hope OS4.0 is out to allow me to do this. A good web broswer is essential for this too.

My other options would be OSx as it is FreeBSD based and therefore a mature OS under the hood. Xandros is also another option. Like many here, I want my next OS to be OS4.0!

I see no reason why OS4.0 can't be my everything OS. Why do I need windows? For what? Ok, sure, I like torrents... but there will be a port at some time. My email is already yahoo, my messenger is yahoo, my browser is Firefox, my spreadsheet is Turbo calc, word processor is Excellence and proper grammar.

I just pray that OS4.0 won't crash as often as 3.x ;)

PS: where did you hear that OS4.0 was to be released around Christmas?

PPS: and yes, for it to be released, there must be hardwware which Hyperion already stated they won't release without hardware; therefore, we should expect hardware too or at least a very big dissappointment. I am still being hopeful.

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@dietmar

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A survey reported that 12% of Americans think that Joan of Arc was Noah's wife.

You've got to be kidding!

Anyway, what I want to know is what's Vista?

@A500

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PS: where did you hear that OS4.0 was to be released around Christmas?

It's a target date given by Hyperion. Neither a promise nor a guarantee, just a target date.

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@Steff

Problem with stating any sort of date, target or not, is that it soon becomes...by word of mouth....THE date!

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of course MOS beats it hands down.

Ehy, you're in the wrong forum, the Jokes Contest is here: Lots of Jokes

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@L8-X

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Problem with stating any sort of date, target or not, is that it soon becomes...by word of mouth....THE date!

Yep. I am already curious how many "OS4 for Xmas?" threads we'll see this year - last years there were *many*.
People better should try to estimate when there will be new hardware, since that's a prerequisite before seeing a release of "OS4 final" - and even the hw-question is difficult enough to answer. Since it is dependant on just so many factors still, even people "in the knows" did not yet risk to make a definite statement on that.

@Hondo_DK

Windows is a different market. Even if you ran in the same hardware, AmigaOS4 targets different customers. No one is going to stop using Windows in favour of OS4 if he really needs to run some critical Windows app. And the ones we are still interested in OS4 will continue being interested on it no matter what Microsoft or Apple do. Most of us already have Windows machines in addition to our miggies, so I don't see the release of Vista as a threat.

The only possible people who may be interested in OS4 would be those who are interested in alternative platforms (e.g.: OSNews readers). You won't make Joe User buy an OS4 machine instead of a Windows one if he wants to play Doom3, World Of Warcraft, interchange excel and word documents and do the same as his friends do with their peecees.

But I hope Hyperion releases OS4 ASAP so they can finish the "Classic" version. Then they'll be able to concentrate on the PSX3 version... they say they don't have a license. But they can get one if they see possibilities of getting some revenue.

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@Legion

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... assuming we could have an up-to-date web browser by release date. I think all developers out there who want OS4 to succeed should immediately suspend their own projects and help in porting Amizilla or KHTML, personally. It is THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING at this point.

A first release of KHTML by marcik is now scheduled for November the 11th *this* year.

2 more weeks

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@Zylesea

I guess that when it's released the OS4 Team may give him an OS4 machine for free so he can port Sputnik to OS4.

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@Crumb

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Windows is a different market. Even if you ran in the same hardware, AmigaOS4 targets different customers. No one is going to stop using Windows in favour of OS4 if he really needs to run some critical Windows app. And the ones we are still interested in OS4 will continue being interested on it no matter what Microsoft or Apple do. Most of us already have Windows machines in addition to our miggies, so I don't see the release of Vista as a threat.

Exactly - and I just thought I'd add a Rogue-quote to that:

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There are no customers outside the grounp of Amiga-fanatics. Name me a few good reasons why a MacOS or Windows user should use AmigaOS, regardless of the hardware platform? I'm sorry, but I am not arrogant enough to think that AmigaOS (or any clone, for the matter) could go against any mainstream OS. It's an OS for Amiga hobbyists, and it will take a long time and a lot of work to get it to any other state. So, pray, how would you like to attract masses of new users outside the Amiga market?

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But I hope Hyperion releases OS4 ASAP so they can finish the "Classic" version.

I also hope that the "Classic version" is released quickly after OS4 final is out. Imagine a triple-boot system with AOS3.9, MOS Powerup and OS4.

@hatschi

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Imagine a triple-boot system with AOS3.9, MOS Powerup and OS4.

What? Ain't there a Linux distro available for the souped-up classic to make it quad-boot?

OldFart

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OldFart wrote: @hatschi Quote: Imagine a triple-boot system with AOS3.9, MOS Powerup and OS4. What? Ain't there a Linux distro available for the souped-up classic to make it quad-boot? Oldfart

Heh, true, haven't thought about Linux Apus. However, latest kernal release was 2.4.20 as far as I can see. Quad-boot would still be funny though.

@hatschi

Theres talks about a classic version of OS4?

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