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techie 
Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 2:24:34
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@Maczilla

oh you're right that link is working(ish) but it is just a hiss at the moment. Same problem with the video stream (video works but no audio).

edit:
Just got audio back with video :)

edit edit:
Hmm pretty bad feedback on the audio all the sudden :S In fact now it is just a loud humming noise :P

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 2:25:24
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@Maczilla

OK, I now have video with no sound (from http://streams.intuitionbase.com:8000/;stream.nsv), and the audio-only stream is just a low hiss, interrupted by cell phone static (dat-dat-dat, dat-dat-dat, datttttt...)

[edit] OK, now I have sound in the video stream

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 2:27:00
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@CodeSmith


audio here now too

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 2:33:57
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@CodeSmith
Yeah getting a poorly placed live mic that is way to
far from the speaker - now it's really humming. I'm
sure they are doing their best, but the stream is a
little "mickeymouse" right now.

Getting video via VLC now - audio just a loud buzz,
however

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 2:38:02
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@Maczilla

Seems to be better now that they played with the cords a bit.

edit:
oops spoke too soon now its gone again lol

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 2:40:24
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@techie

Yes, I had to turn down the subwoofer because it was giving me a headache

It's good that the glitches all happen now before anyone has anything significant to say. I do kinda feel sorry for Tekmage, who's probably not having enough time to enjoy his dinner...

[edit] ... and we lost video again.

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 2:43:13
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@CodeSmith

I feel sorry for him as well;
I was in charge of recording a presentation once when i was a summer student and I know just how frustrating it can be to get things working properly :)

edit:
It never rains but it pours :)
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Server Status: Server is currently down.


edit edit:
And back up again...with the loud hum..again lol. Boy I really don't envy him

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
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Ok, the video stream is working properly now, and I just heard the Hyperion announcement.

Amiga OS4 for classics will be available in "two Amiga weeks" (Nov 30).

DiscreetFX announced that they bought up Aladdin4D, and will be improving it. An Amiga OS4 version will be made. Price will be in the $100-150 range.

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
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I expect in a couple of days we'll see a filing on Justia to block it.

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
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McEwen if your reading this, please give us a break just for once!

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 5:55:03
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@Hans

Thank you for reporting the announcements. Did Bill also tell anything about the donations presumably spent in the past to make Aladdin open source?

http://www.amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2006-11-00134-EN.html

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 6:25:41
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What type of program is Aladdin4D?

edit: spelling

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 7:47:04
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@Insanity

http://www.novadesign.com/exoops/modules/freecontent/index.php?id=8

Quote:
Aladdin 4D is one of the most complete 3D packages you can find on the Amiga market today. It comes complete with enhanced animation, modeling, lighting, and rendering that can all be extended with an advanced plugin system. Aladdin 4D provides professional features at a price anyone can afford.

Available on the Amiga platform, Aladdin 4D steps forward with a complete suite of tools available for you to use. Aladdin 4D comes with the tools, plugins, and functions necessary for you to deliver the highest quality work on time and under budget. Best of all, Aladdin 4D does this without sacrificing quality or ease of use.

By including the tools you need with the quality you deserve and all at the right price, Aladdin 4D is the package for you.

Interface

Aladdin 4D stands above other 3D packages, providing an easy to use interface that is functional, elegant, and above all else, easy-to-use. And unlike many other solutions, Aladdin 4D does not separate out the various elements of 3D work into separate interfaces. Aladdin 4D's primary interface controls all aspects of the system, from modeling to animation, lighting to effects. With a reduced learning curve combined with a single powerful and easy to use interface, Aladdin 4D is the right 3D program for you.

100% Amiga Styleguide compliant
CyberGraphX support
Basic ARexx scripting
AmigaGuide Help System
Logically organized menus
Font sensitive interface
Real world coordinates
Dolly, Truck, and Pan capabilities
Infinite Surface Layering


Btw everyone... ONE L, TWO D's.. Aladdin4d! I see a lot of variations on the net. This seems to be the correct spelling, straight from their site. :)

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 9:21:21
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@Hans

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Amiga OS4 for classics will be available in "two Amiga weeks" (Nov 30).DiscreetFX announced that they bought up Aladdin4D, and will be improving it. An Amiga OS4 version will be made. Price will be in the $100-150 range.


I wonder if the Classic version of OS4 has some new features or bugfixes that the current (in use) OS4 for A1's dont have, if yes is there coming another update....

And I also wonder how the 'updated' Aladdin compares to Lightwave 4 or even newer. I wish I had Lightwave 8 on Amiga......

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 10:38:16
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@Metalheart

For the moment I wiil real pleased to see at least Blender3D on AmigaOS4...
Some screen shots released but no more rumors than...

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 13:49:11
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@CodeSmith

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I expect in a couple of days we'll see a filing on Justia to block it.


Probably. However, the Judge has already ruled against an injunction, so I'm not sure that it will be granted. In this case, it would actually be in Amiga Inc's best interests not to seek an injunction, as it's increasing the user-base, and hence, the value of OS4.

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 13:58:59
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Quote:

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Amiga OS4 for classics will be available in "two Amiga weeks" (Nov 30).DiscreetFX announced that they bought up Aladdin4D, and will be improving it. An Amiga OS4 version will be made. Price will be in the $100-150 range.


I wonder if the Classic version of OS4 has some new features or bugfixes that the current (in use) OS4 for A1's dont have, if yes is there coming another update....

And I also wonder how the 'updated' Aladdin compares to Lightwave 4 or even newer. I wish I had Lightwave 8 on Amiga......

Cheers


They estimate that the updated version will be released in 6-7 months. I have no idea how it compares. I've never tried Aladdin4D, but my impression was that it wasn't the greatest 3D modeller/renderer (not as good as Lightwave or Cinema4D). However, IIRC, it was the only modelling/rendering package that had PowerPC support.

This was the only raytracing package that they could feasibly get their hands on and make an updated version in a reasonable amount of time. The return to Amiga of other packages such as Lightwave, Cinema4D, and Animation Master would be great, but it's not going to happen (at least not for the forseeable future). NovaDesign were ready to sell it into open-source, whereas the other programs are commercial products for windows.

I hope that they improve the raytracer, and add Collada support.

Hans

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 14:03:03
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@all

Today's schedule (Sunday) from ugn
(see bottom of page for stream link etc.)

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Schedule:ALL TIMES ARE SUBJECT TO REALITY
Show floor opens Sunday at 10 AM PST.
10 AM: Bill "tekmage" Borsari presents OS4 Classic
11 AM: Steve Solie talks about developing for OS4
12 AM: Bill Panagouleas presents DiscreetFX products and plans for the futureMore to come!
All times are PDT


Hmm..I'm sure 12 AM means 12 PM (noon)
10 AM start time in California is GMT-8, so...
add 8 hours for U.K. start time, etc.

Please correct me if I'm wrong about this.

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 15:12:56
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@all

http://www.amigaz.org/2007/10/21/amiwest-banquet-audio

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Re: Amiwest - October 20 & 21, 2007
Posted on 21-Oct-2007 18:13:35
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@Hans

Won't it be grand when we can have a virtual "convention" and video and audio works speedily and reliably and we many in the hinterlands can attend, adjust our viewing AND BE SEEN! having paid our attendance fees to assure access to booth sponsor personal interaction.

I can hardly wait.

Small groups like ours can experience the heady effusion of crowds of like-minded people REALTIME (but in separate physical locations).

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