@DiscreetFX

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DiscreetFX wrote: It's strange that a story with this many views has not hit Digg yet.

Digg's glory days seem to have passed. I tried it briefly, but never did much with it, because, I was never all that interested in it's headlines, it doesn't help me to find information faster (or do anything else for that matter), and you really need a team of people to get something to the front page.

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Don't you think the next announcement should be made to fit in with a NZ/AUS timezone?

tiffers

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Sigh, finally cought up with all the posts...

So far so good, high-end hardware with mystery slot and custom chip, but I have a feeling there's more to it, much more...

Some obvious questions remain:

1) What is X? AmigaOne Power X, Xorro, Xena, and Xilinx all fit but it could be something else. It might not even be an X at all.

2) What CPU does it use?

3) What does the case look like?

4) When will it be available?

5) How much will it cost?

6) Is there more than one motherboard? (Laptop...)

7) What other surprise(s) are we in for? (things we didn't think about)

There's at least 2 more clues coming

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@tiffers

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tiffers wrote: @Hans Don't you think the next announcement should be made to fit in with a NZ/AUS timezone?

I'd definitely like that, but my mentioning something like this previously brought on a bit of an argument about how international websites should be using UTC in situations like this (with me disagreeing, of-course).

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@Thread



I was clicking around in AlexC's website and went to his Home Page to find a big ?, which was a link to X.lha! And files in the archive have modification times of 1 Jan 2010!

There's even a clues.readme!



He's in on it too!

tiffers

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@ChrisH

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We simply don't sell the vast quantity of (Amiga-specific) hardware needed to reduce design/testing costs to nothing per sale. (We'd have to use generic ARM or x86 hardware, and only AROS can do that.)

I was guessing that MAP is something for "real customers", a product that will sell in outside world and get both users and cash flow for Hyperion. Still, I don't know all the details. But if that's "only" a board and 64bits, and SMP targetting Amiga users... how much new cash it will bring?

Well, we'll find out in a year or two. We have time. We always had it.

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Well, we'll find out in a year or two

I don't think this project is as young as you might be thinking.

Rogue says they have 2 boards (OS4 team), there may be more. They have a screen shot showing 8 tasks running in Linux on the board, so there's already a working linux distro.

For all we know AmigaOS 4.1 U1 might well run on it already.

It may just be a matter of this drawn out (hurry up guys!) announcement / PR finishing and the product will be available (or shortly after).

tiffers

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I don't think this project is as young as you might be thinking.

Em, I was saying that we will know how it panned out. Was this computer "selling like a hot cakes" or just followed standard in our world, a few batches of 40 and "forever beta" software. I hope there's still something among the lines of "...and this we're going to Joe Sixpack".

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Em, I was saying that we will know how it panned out.

I understand now. My apologies. Hopefully we'll have at least an inkling of an idea when the price is announced, which way it will go.

tiffers

Damn!! I almost lost all my sleep last night!
What is X and X is what and ... and ...

I have not figured out what sane thing would X be.
(wireless connectivity is better done in PCIx1 slot card, also fpga toys are better put on a card to keep the basic board price down.... which is pricey already, I bet 2000¤+ per board)

Xena could be X enabler and a nice girly name for a customchip.
And Xorro slot is the expansion/I/O bus of X.

But what is X.
And if the X on the first page is the official designed logo, what is it.
Does the Enigma word play any role in all this?


it also could be for home automation/data in/out/legacy ports (floppy,atari,midi,parallel,serial,i2c,Geekport)

Rogue about it:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=536090&postcount=189

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Damn!! I almost lost all my sleep last night!

You guys are starting to make me worried. This is a nice marketing game, but losing sleep over it? Damn it. I hope Hyperion will finish this hint-a-day thing because soon some of more dedicated fans will be dead due lack of sleep, exhaustion and repetitive F5 injury.

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How strange is to wake up in the morning with the head setup to solve mistery, thinking at what is X?

btw, firing another nonsense??

Could it be a 4 core cpu with 2 hardware thread per cpu?

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When it has Update 1 installed, I honestly can't see much reason to sell the my 667Mhz Sam: It does most things I want of it well enough (excluding software-only issues like AmiCygnix not being hardware accelerated & hence slow scrolling on *any* CPU). And what you'd get selling a Sam may not make a huge dent in the price of this new motherboard (think I'd rather have both Sam AND this new system).

I got absolutely hooked on the tiny, silent machine so I'm not selling my SAM, either! But some people will, to get money for the new hardware.

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opi wrote: @KimmoK Quote: Damn!! I almost lost all my sleep last night! You guys are starting to make me worried. This is a nice marketing game, but losing sleep over it? Damn it. I hope Hyperion will finish this hint-a-day thing because soon some of more dedicated fans will be dead due lack of sleep, exhaustion and repetitive F5 injury.

lol - that made me chuckle

Rude!

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If it can't run equivalent (or better) apps like Firefox, OpenOffice and the Gimp, I can't really see the point in it...

Some of us are able to enjoy the qualities that AmigaOS4 has to offer *now* (e.g. fast/responsive with a reasonable selection of apps), along with the hope that newer & better software will be developed in the future. If we all waited for the "ultimate Amiga", no one would buy anything, and we wouldn't even have OS4 at all.

Firefox would be nice, but we have OWB. Gimp would be nice, but we have Art Effect 3, TV Paint, etc. Open Office would be *really* nice, but we've got AmiCygnix running AbiWord, etc, plus Wordworth/etc if you need speed not compatibility. A little compromise goes a long way

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@tiffers

It was part of a little distraction I put together to keep people busy while waiting for the next clue

@trixie

Likewise, after I get the new machine I won't be selling my A1 XE, because I already made that mistake when I got my A1 and then sold my 4000 not taking into account its sentimental value, all the good times we had shared together.
It was as wrong as getting rid of the old dog after buying a puppy

Hopefully the new machine won't cost too much as I'd like to get a SAM Flex too and we've hardly scratched the surface of the SAM's potential.

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I understand economies of scale, but it'd be nice to NOT have to sell a kidney to purchase a board / system.

It was only a few years ago that a decent PC system would cost you £1000. And Amiga stuff has always cost around £500 for a basic system (that won't do much more than play floppy disk games), or £1000 for a decent system.

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Amiga=expensive is a wrong attitude ... I remember my cousin excitedly showing us the A1000 launch video, and discussing prices. He said for around AU $4000 it could do what a PC cosing $10000 could do.

And you think AU $4000 is cheap? Then the cost of this new hardware should not bother you at all!

I hope you get my point! Just because the Amiga is no-longer ahead of cutting-edge PCs, does not mean it is proportially cheaper.

BTW, I got 100MB/sec throughput on my Sam440's SATA harddisk, so Amiga hardware is pretty-damn-good in some departments (excluding CPU speed, at least until MAP).

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The news about a-eon has now spread to the Danish IT media - great having Amiga back in the news.

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@AlexC
Never sold my expanded 2000 (while I sold anything else). A few months ago I never thought that an "Amiga comeback" would still be possible but in all those years I never had the courage to part from my old dusty 2000 (I had this bad hunch in my heart every time I took the camera to take pictures for ebay O_o).

As for the Sam, I bought it recently, and I did consider possible new HW on the horizon, but quite frankly I was so eager to get back to Amiga computing that waiting another year with no modern Amiga in my hands would have been a killer for me.

Now I will have 4.1.1 to play with in a short while instead of following the news at AW on my windows machine for another year, not to mention that "X" will need those Radeon HD drivers, so hopefully this development will speed up that process (who knows they may help Hans out) and Sam will take advantage of those too,as up to Radeon HD4350 is available for standard PCI (and by the way the little thingy is a real blast, far more capable than I originally thought).

It seems quite a fantastic situation IMHO...

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