@Wizzard_o

*sniggers*

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@wawa

Permedia2 is maybe old, thats correct but it is a widely used piece of hardware on BPPC and CSPPC, i doubt the 060 still is under OS4.

i said better 3D system for 68K not improve, anyone can try and make OS3.X Mesa drivers or Rave 3D drivers and make a wrapper ?

@SimplePPC
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Permedia2 is maybe old, thats correct but it is a widely used piece of hardware on BPPC and CSPPC, i doubt the 060 still is under OS4.

68k amigas are sure even today much more popular than ppc, but who cares? in fact what only counts, that karlos has had this on his wish list and took the opportunity, volunteering.
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i said better 3D system for 68K not improve, anyone can try and make OS3.X Mesa drivers or Rave 3D drivers and make a wrapper ?

no it isnt so simple, since the documentation is not openly available. it would be possible via reverse engineering, ive been told. it has taken place to certain extent to fix bugs in voodoo warp3d libraries. but the task was to big without any support.

Last edited by wawa on 11-Jun-2011 at 04:54 PM.

@Karlos

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The bug is probably in the R200 driver, there are other bugs in there, some of which I've fixed (W3D_DrawTriStripV() for example, rendered fans instead, likewise support for byte-based V4 vertex colour formats).

Good, this fix will coming on the Update 3 ?

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You shouldn't compare Warp3D on OS4 to the emulation on MorphOS when trying to identify where a problem lies. They work very differently. In MorphOS, Warp3D is an emulation layer wrapped around an already complete 3D subsystem. That emulation layer can contain all the odd workarounds and bugfix logic it needs without any new "fixes" causing problems for the 3D subsystem itself. In future, Warp3D itself will doubtless be a wrapper around a more complete 3D system too, at which point direct comparisons will be more useful/

Ok this explain all, maybe this sort of "sandbox" in the 3D system has to be done before, aniway we can't go back with a time machine ... i presume that this can be valid also for an eventual future support of the other PowerUP apps (that doesn't work at all yet under OS4)

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For several reasons I'd rather get drivers closer to the API expectation first then worry about dealing with older titles that have issues. As it happens, I spent quite a lot of effort trying to get the exhaust trails in WO2097 to render properly - only to discover that it is impossible without breaking the rendering in other WarpOS/Warp3D titles. I got it working in the end, although you may have to set different ENV vars for different titles.

Of course surely this can't be an elegant solution for end users.

Did you talk about your plans/ideas with the actual 3D mantainers ?
Maybe you may work side by side with them when they start to plan the new 3D infrastructure so we can be sure that all things can be done "correctly" in future updates.

I have great confidence on you !

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Excuse the long and boring waits, I left the game to run a rolling demo as can't play it with one hand ;)

Seems good as graphic (no glitch or similar) altrough from the video you post i note certain slowdowns, audio CD tracks doesn't work yet right ?

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Sam440ep Flex 800 Mhz 1 GB Ram + AmigaOS 4.1 Update 6
AmigaOne XE G3 800 Mhz - 640 MB Ram - Radeon 9200 SE + AmigaOS 4.1 Update 6

@samo79

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samo79 wrote: @Karlos Quote: The bug is probably in the R200 driver, there are other bugs in there, some of which I've fixed (W3D_DrawTriStripV() for example, rendered fans instead, likewise support for byte-based V4 vertex colour formats). Good, this fix will coming on the Update 3 ?

Those particular bug fixes should be, they were submitted already. The shadow bugs and stuff haven't been worked on yet. Not by me at least.

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Quote: For several reasons I'd rather get drivers closer to the API expectation first then worry about dealing with older titles that have issues. As it happens, I spent quite a lot of effort trying to get the exhaust trails in WO2097 to render properly - only to discover that it is impossible without breaking the rendering in other WarpOS/Warp3D titles. I got it working in the end, although you may have to set different ENV vars for different titles. Of course surely this can't be an elegant solution for end users.

Well, it isn't that bad actually. The way I implemented this was in a manner similar to "profiles" common to PC graphics card drivers. So, you don't have to change ENV vars each time you want to run something, you just create subdirectories in ENVARC:Warp3D/Permedia2 for each executable you want to override the main settings for.

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Did you talk about your plans/ideas with the actual 3D mantainers ? Maybe you may work side by side with them when they start to plan the new 3D infrastructure so we can be sure that all things can be done "correctly" in future updates.

The future is definitely in a new 3D subsystem - most of the issues could be mitigated by simply wrapping a working OpenGL implementation. Fixing bugs in Warp3D itself is only an interim measure.

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Quote: Excuse the long and boring waits, I left the game to run a rolling demo as can't play it with one hand ;) Seems good as graphic (no glitch or similar) altrough from the video you post i note certain slowdowns, audio CD tracks doesn't work yet right ?

Depends on your system, I guess. The video itself isn't recorded at the highest frame rate and windowed mode is also slower than fullscreen since there's a ClipBlit() for every frame. For the settings in use, this is actually faster than it is for me on WarpOS, despite the overhead of emulating bits of 68K stuff (remember, WarpOS applications still make 68K system calls that have to be emulated even if they do trampoline right back into native OS calls). Also, this was the debug build of the driver which is a little slower than the release version due to extra stuff going on that you can't see.

Regarding the audio, you'd not be able to tell anyway in the video as I didn't record any sound. However, there's no chance CD audio works here as I don't have any optical media in my A1200 at all. Whenever I need to use some obsolete storage media like that, I just mount it over the LAN :)

Last edited by Karlos on 11-Jun-2011 at 05:43 PM.

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@Karlos

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Depends on your system, I guess. The video itself isn't recorded at the highest frame rate and windowed mode is also slower than fullscreen since there's a ClipBlit() for every frame. For the settings in use, this is actually faster than it is for me on WarpOS, despite the overhead of emulating bits of 68K stuff (remember, WarpOS applications still make 68K system calls that have to be emulated even if they do trampoline right back into native OS calls). Also, this was the debug build of the driver which is a little slower than the release version due to extra stuff going on that you can't see.

ah ha, ok

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Regarding the audio, you'd not be able to tell anyway in the video as I didn't record any sound. However, there's no chance CD audio works here as I don't have any optical media in my A1200 at all. Whenever I need to use some obsolete storage media like that, I just mount it over the LAN :)

Yep, i know that video was maded without audio, i meant if there any chance (if you know) to support it or if the music are already supported but don't work for any reason.

Aniway i just restart your video and see what config you use on your machine, so i decide to set the same prefs on my Sam Flex and i get a bad ISI crash instantanely. (see log below)

This is a bit strange because using different configs i get different behaviour, sometimes DSI, sometimes ISI crash and after a while always unrecoverable freezes

Of course I also plane to open a new thread here about all issue/crash into the WarpOS games, so eventually you or other interested developers can take a look at them easily and bring it as reference for future fix

WipeOut 2097 Demo under Sam Flex 800, ATI Radeon 9250, AmigaOS 4.1 Update 2

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Crash log for task "wipeout_demo" Generated by GrimReaper 53.2 Crash occured in module wipeout_demo at address 0x53EE115C Type of crash: ISI (Instruction Storage Interrupt) exception Register dump: GPR (General Purpose Registers): 0: 53EC28CC 532CE270 56F6B008 52817EA0 00000000 00000404 FFFFFFE7 00000001 8: 00000002 00000041 00000000 FFFFFFE7 00000084 00000000 52817EA0 00000000 16: 0000002D 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000001 00000000 00000002 00000001 24: 00000000 0000D2F0 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 FPR (Floating Point Registers, NaN = Not a Number): 0: nan -0.803208 0.0675273 0.407218 4: nan 0.63662 0.165826 2.46897e-05 8: 2.08757e-09 1 -0.5 2.46894e-05 12: 0.0411011 nan 0 -5.05923e-321 16: 0 0 0 0 20: 0 0 0 1.61895e-319 24: 0 0 0 0 28: 0 1.35808e-312 8.6917e-311 8.88967e+20 FPSCR (Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0xA2020100 SPRs (Special Purpose Registers): Machine State (msr) : 0x0002F030 Condition (cr) : 0x28424844 Instruction Pointer (ip) : 0x53EE115C Xtended Exception (xer) : 0x20000008 Count (ctr) : 0x00000000 Link (lr) : 0x53EC28CC DSI Status (dsisr) : 0x00000000 Data Address (dar) : 0x52304000 680x0 emulated registers: DATA: 00000001 FFFFFFFF 00000001 56F914F0 00000001 FFD50001 FFD60001 54934004 ADDR: 532CEF5C 56F914F0 56F914F0 54934004 532CEFFC 532CEFF0 54879AA0 532CEF3C FPU0: 0 0 0 0 FPU4: 0 0 0 0 Symbol info: Instruction pointer 0x53EE115C belongs to module "wipeout_demo" (HUNK/Kickstart) Stack trace: module wipeout_demo at 0x53EE115C (section 1 @ 0x6F154) module wipeout_demo at 0x53EC28CC (section 1 @ 0x508C4) module wipeout_demo at 0x53D0B6C0 (section 17 @ 0x6B8) module wipeout_demo at 0x53F18C98 (section 1 @ 0xA6C90) module wipeout_demo at 0x53EFD218 (section 1 @ 0x8B210) native kernel module kernel+0x00031f58 native kernel module kernel+0x00022a74 native kernel module kernel+0x00022c24 module LIBS:powerpc.library at 0x6FA6CCF0 (section 5 @ 0x4CD0) module LIBS:powerpc.library at 0x6FA6BF3C (section 5 @ 0x3F1C) native kernel module kernel+0x0005457c native kernel module kernel+0x009bd7f6 PPC disassembly: 53ee1154: 4180ffdc blt+ 0x53EE1130 53ee1158: 39ad0001 addi r13,r13,1 *53ee115c: 2c0d000f cmpwi r13,15 53ee1160: 4180fdf8 blt+ 0x53EE0F58 53ee1164: 38210060 addi r1,r1,96 System information: CPU Model: AMCC PPC440EP V1.3 CPU speed: 799 MHz FSB speed: 133 MHz Extensions: Machine Machine name: Sam440EP Memory: 1048576 KB Extensions: bus.pci Expansion buses PCI/AGP 00:00.0 Vendor 0x1014 Device 0x027F 00:0A.0 Vendor 0x12D8 Device 0x8150 00:0C.0 Vendor 0x1002 Device 0x5960 Range 0: A8000000 - 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0x586c5ffc, pointer @ 0x586c5f30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) pager (Waiting) Stack: 0x58e48004 - 0x58e67ffc, pointer @ 0x58e67f00 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) IDF0 (Waiting) Stack: 0x56913004 - 0x56922ffc, pointer @ 0x56922ed0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xa8000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) ENV (Waiting) Stack: 0x58e2e004 - 0x58e2fffc, pointer @ 0x58e2fe00 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) IDF1 (Waiting) Stack: 0x56964004 - 0x56973ffc, pointer @ 0x56973ed0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xa8000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) IDF2 (Waiting) Stack: 0x569ac004 - 0x569bbffc, pointer @ 0x569bbed0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xa8000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) IDF3 (Waiting) Stack: 0x56a09004 - 0x56a18ffc, pointer @ 0x56a18ed0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xa8000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) URL (Waiting) Stack: 0x5651a004 - 0x56594ffc, pointer @ 0x56591c20 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) RANDOM (Waiting) Stack: 0x56599004 - 0x565a8ffc, pointer @ 0x565a8ef0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) IPC0 (Waiting) Stack: 0x56666004 - 0x56675ffc, pointer @ 0x56675ed0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00010100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x56f0e004 - 0x56f1dffc, pointer @ 0x56f1dde0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x5334a004 - 0x53359ffc, pointer @ 0x53359de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xa0000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) console.device (Waiting) Stack: 0x5ff08000 - 0x5ff10000, pointer @ 0x5ff0ff70 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xf0000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Task (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x55041004 - 0x55050ffc, pointer @ 0x55050de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x54ff5004 - 0x55004ffc, pointer @ 0x55004de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x550ca004 - 0x550d9ffc, pointer @ 0x550d9de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x55168004 - 0x55177ffc, pointer @ 0x55177de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x551d5004 - 0x551e4ffc, pointer @ 0x551e4de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x560c2004 - 0x560d1ffc, pointer @ 0x560d1de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) AUDIO (Waiting) Stack: 0x564cf004 - 0x564deffc, pointer @ 0x564deec0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x58e7c004 - 0x58e83ffc, pointer @ 0x58e83de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) RAW (Waiting) Stack: 0x593a4004 - 0x593abffc, pointer @ 0x593abde0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) CON (Waiting) Stack: 0x593b0004 - 0x593b7ffc, pointer @ 0x593b7de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) dos_nbmd_process (Waiting) Stack: 0x5ff28004 - 0x5ff29ffc, pointer @ 0x5ff29f20 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) dos_lock_handler (Waiting) Stack: 0x5ff22004 - 0x5ff23ffc, pointer @ 0x5ff23f10 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) RexxMaster [] (Waiting) Stack: 0x54b0b004 - 0x54b1affc, pointer @ 0x54b1af50 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) diskimage.device unit 4 (Waiting) Stack: 0x56818004 - 0x5682bffc, pointer @ 0x5682bc30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) diskimage.device unit 5 (Waiting) Stack: 0x56897004 - 0x568aaffc, pointer @ 0x568aac30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) diskimage.device unit 0 (Waiting) Stack: 0x568f3004 - 0x56906ffc, pointer @ 0x56906c30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) diskimage.device unit 1 (Waiting) Stack: 0x56944004 - 0x56957ffc, pointer @ 0x56957c30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) diskimage.device unit 2 (Waiting) Stack: 0x56980004 - 0x56993ffc, pointer @ 0x56993c30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) diskimage.device unit 3 (Waiting) Stack: 0x569e9004 - 0x569fcffc, pointer @ 0x569fcc30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) diskimage.device unit 6 (Waiting) Stack: 0x56a2d004 - 0x56a40ffc, pointer @ 0x56a40c30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) TEXTCLIP (Waiting) Stack: 0x56506004 - 0x56515ffc, pointer @ 0x56515eb0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) compose.task (Ready) Stack: 0x57163000 - 0x5716b000, pointer @ 0x5716af30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000021, SigWait 0x00000020 State: Task (Ready) Workbench [Workbench] (Ready) Stack: 0x5649b004 - 0x564aaffc, pointer @ 0x564aae80 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x80008000 State: Process (Ready) Workbench DosList Notify (Waiting) Stack: 0x56745004 - 0x56754ffc, pointer @ 0x56754f40 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00003000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) ContextMenus Command Dispatcher [ContextMenus Command Dispatcher] (Waiting) Stack: 0x548a2004 - 0x548b1ffc, pointer @ 0x548b1f40 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) texteditor.gadget Clipboard Server (Waiting) Stack: 0x57113004 - 0x57122ffc, pointer @ 0x57122f00 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) string.gadget server (Waiting) Stack: 0x561ff004 - 0x5620effc, pointer @ 0x5620edb0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x40000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) Workbench Clipboard Server (Waiting) Stack: 0x5643b004 - 0x5644affc, pointer @ 0x5644af00 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) datatypes.library (Waiting) Stack: 0x587d7004 - 0x587e6ffc, pointer @ 0x587e6f10 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00001100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) windowfade.task (Ready) Stack: 0x51fca000 - 0x51fd2000, pointer @ 0x51fd1e50 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000020, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Task (Ready) RinghioServer (Ready) Stack: 0x55011004 - 0x55030ffc, pointer @ 0x550307a0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xd8001000, SigWait 0x10000100 State: Process (Ready) screenblanker.library timing dispatcher (Ready) Stack: 0x54f8f004 - 0x54f9effc, pointer @ 0x54f9eea0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Ready) AmiDock (Ready) Stack: 0x560d6004 - 0x560e5ffc, pointer @ 0x560e5930 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Ready) wo2097_mixer (Waiting) Stack: 0x522d9004 - 0x522e8ffc, pointer @ 0x522e8e20 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) TCP/IP Control (Waiting) Stack: 0x561c3004 - 0x561d2ffc, pointer @ 0x561d2dc0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xf8009080, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) AutoRun (Waiting) Stack: 0x54a62004 - 0x54a71ffc, pointer @ 0x54a71e30 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xe0001000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) DigiClock (Waiting) Stack: 0x55055004 - 0x55064ffc, pointer @ 0x55064100 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xe0001000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) SYS:System/Find (Waiting) Stack: 0x57127004 - 0x57136ffc, pointer @ 0x57136c10 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xf0001000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) TCP/IP Superserver [TCP/IP Superserver] (Waiting) Stack: 0x566d9004 - 0x566e8ffc, pointer @ 0x566e8a00 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xd0000080, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) ramlib (Waiting) Stack: 0x58992004 - 0x5899bffc, pointer @ 0x5899bf20 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) TCP/IP Configuration (Waiting) Stack: 0x561d7004 - 0x561e6ffc, pointer @ 0x561e6de0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xf8003000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) AmigaInput_usb_task (Waiting) Stack: 0x530f2004 - 0x53101ffc, pointer @ 0x53101ec0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) AmigaInput Dispatcher (Waiting) Stack: 0x5310a000 - 0x5310e000, pointer @ 0x5310df20 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Task (Waiting) IconX [] (Waiting) Stack: 0x56f2a004 - 0x56f39ffc, pointer @ 0x56f39b20 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) DefIcons (Waiting) Stack: 0x551f1004 - 0x55200ffc, pointer @ 0x55200dc0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80009000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) ContextMenus [] (Waiting) Stack: 0x550e6004 - 0x550f5ffc, pointer @ 0x550f5c50 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xe0001000, SigWait 0x0c000000 State: Process (Waiting) application.library messageserver (Waiting) Stack: 0x585d2000 - 0x585d2fa0, pointer @ 0x585d2f10 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Task (Waiting) ASYNCWB (Waiting) Stack: 0x5520d004 - 0x5521cffc, pointer @ 0x5521ce70 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) ScreenBlankerEngine (Waiting) Stack: 0x5517c004 - 0x5518bffc, pointer @ 0x5518bbe0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xd8001000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) RAWBInfo (Waiting) Stack: 0x55190004 - 0x5519fffc, pointer @ 0x5519fec0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) TCP/IP Log (Waiting) Stack: 0x561eb004 - 0x561faffc, pointer @ 0x561faf00 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80003000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) « IPrefs » (Waiting) Stack: 0x5869a004 - 0x586a9ffc, pointer @ 0x586a9530 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x0000f000, SigWait 0x40000100 State: Process (Waiting) DST watcher (Waiting) Stack: 0x585d9004 - 0x585e8ffc, pointer @ 0x585e8f20 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) USB stack Process (Waiting) Stack: 0x5881b004 - 0x5882affc, pointer @ 0x5882aee0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) ConClip (Waiting) Stack: 0x58807004 - 0x58816ffc, pointer @ 0x58816eb0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) hub.usbfd (Waiting) Stack: 0x5fde3004 - 0x5fdeaffc, pointer @ 0x5fdeaf10 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x30000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Task (Waiting) hub.usbfd (Waiting) Stack: 0x5fdef004 - 0x5fdf6ffc, pointer @ 0x5fdf6f10 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x30000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Task (Waiting) Background CLI [wipeout_demo] (Crashed) Stack: 0x531da004 - 0x532ceffc, pointer @ 0x532ce270 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000010, SigWait 0x83c00100 State: Process (Crashed) dos_signal_server (Waiting) Stack: 0x5ff2e004 - 0x5ff2fffc, pointer @ 0x5ff2ff10 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x0000e000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) Picasso96 (Waiting) Stack: 0x58860004 - 0x5886fffc, pointer @ 0x5886fdb0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) ramlib.support (Waiting) Stack: 0x58984004 - 0x5898dffc, pointer @ 0x5898df10 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80004000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) dos_filedir_notify (Waiting) Stack: 0x5fd43004 - 0x5fd46ffc, pointer @ 0x5fd46ad0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x40000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Process (Waiting) dos_appdir_server (Waiting) Stack: 0x5ff34004 - 0x5ff35ffc, pointer @ 0x5ff35cc0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000100 State: Process (Waiting) CPUInfo.CPUTask (Ready) Stack: 0x54ce7000 - 0x54cef000, pointer @ 0x54ceefd0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Task (Ready) idle.task (Ready) Stack: 0x5ff8e000 - 0x5ff8f000, pointer @ 0x5ff8efd0 (Cookie OK) Signals: SigRec 0x00000000, SigWait 0x00000000 State: Task (Ready)

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@samo79

Quote:

Yep, i know that video was maded without audio, i meant if there any chance (if you know) to support it or if the music are already supported but don't work for any reason.

This problem lies within cdplayer.library... It uses the SCSI command "PLAY AUDIO TRACK INDEX" for playing audio tracks, which isn't supported anymore by most ATAPI drives. I made a patch for cdplayer.library to use "READ TOC" and "PLAY AUDIO MSF" instead, but I'm waiting for permission from Patrick Hess (the original author) before releasing the altered library.

@ville9

Cool, this would be also PPC OS4 native ?

This is an excellent news aniway, thanks

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@thread

Hyperion Entertainment Blog update

#6

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@number6

I Love Blogs ;)

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@HammerD

I love blogs too, but enough PR of classic version, give us some interesting techical info. as Karlos do (about update3. about new features in it, about fixed there and there, about how fast usb2.0 , etc) :) Its supposed to be development blog, not PR blog :) Also as betatesters use new shell for last years, maybe you can write post about for blog (if tonyw can't by any reassons) ? Will be pretty interesting to read as well.

Last edited by kas1e on 14-Jun-2011 at 09:30 AM.
Last edited by kas1e on 14-Jun-2011 at 09:21 AM.

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About Warp3D blending
Here it is a patch i maded on Wazp3D perhaps it will help for WipeOut too

Alain Thellier
Wazp3D's author
/*==========================================================================*/

ULONG W3D_SetBlendMode(W3D_Context *context, ULONG srcfunc, ULONG dstfunc)
{
#define GL_CONSTANT_COLOR               0x8001
#define GL_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_COLOR     0x8002
#define GL_CONSTANT_ALPHA               0x8003
#define GL_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_ALPHA     0x8004


/* patch: MiniGL/OS4 send some opengl's src & dst unimplemented values */
	if(srcfunc==GL_CONSTANT_COLOR)		srcfunc=W3D_CONSTANT_COLOR;
	if(srcfunc==GL_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_COLOR)	srcfunc=W3D_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_COLOR;
	if(srcfunc==GL_CONSTANT_ALPHA )		srcfunc=W3D_CONSTANT_ALPHA;
	if(srcfunc==GL_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_ALPHA)	srcfunc=W3D_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_ALPHA;

	if(dstfunc==GL_CONSTANT_COLOR)		dstfunc=W3D_CONSTANT_COLOR;
	if(dstfunc==GL_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_COLOR)	dstfunc=W3D_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_COLOR;
	if(dstfunc==GL_CONSTANT_ALPHA )		dstfunc=W3D_CONSTANT_ALPHA;
	if(dstfunc==GL_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_ALPHA)	dstfunc=W3D_ONE_MINUS_CONSTANT_ALPHA;

	if(15 < srcfunc) WRETURN(W3D_ILLEGALINPUT);
	if(15 < dstfunc) WRETURN(W3D_ILLEGALINPUT);


/* dest only */
	if(srcfunc==W3D_SRC_COLOR) WRETURN(W3D_ILLEGALINPUT);
	if(srcfunc==W3D_ONE_MINUS_SRC_COLOR) WRETURN(W3D_ILLEGALINPUT);

/* source only */
	if(dstfunc==W3D_DST_COLOR) WRETURN(W3D_ILLEGALINPUT);
	if(dstfunc==W3D_ONE_MINUS_DST_COLOR) WRETURN(W3D_ILLEGALINPUT);
	if(dstfunc==W3D_SRC_ALPHA_SATURATE) WRETURN(W3D_ILLEGALINPUT);


/* patch: BlitzQuake/MiniGL use SetBlendMode but forget to activate with SetState() the blending */
	SetState(context,W3D_BLENDING,TRUE);
	[...]

Last edited by _Steve_ on 14-Jun-2011 at 08:47 PM.
Last edited by thellier on 14-Jun-2011 at 09:46 AM.
Last edited by thellier on 14-Jun-2011 at 09:44 AM.

@number6:
another blah-blah blog item. wonder why cant they post anything essential or at least interresting like karlos, instead of this poor marketing. sneak peak at incoming advertisement. what magazine is it supposed to appear except of amiga future.

@number6

Thanks Number6 for this update of a REAL and AVAILABLE AmigaOS.
It is a shame that people cant say thanks for what is here, rather than complain about what is coming...

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@ddni


and we have reached the days when independent reviews of a shipping product are not of use to some complainers.
Sad.

Quote:

ddni wrote: @number6 Thanks Number6 for this update of a REAL and AVAILABLE AmigaOS. It is a shame that people cant say thanks for what is here, rather than complain about what is coming...

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@wawa

Quote:

wawa wrote: no it isnt so simple, since the documentation is not openly available.

Who's documentation?

Quote:

wawa wrote: i love this harsh honesty of yours. but i think you realize yourself that the attitude you describe is exactly what puts many people off. edit: anyway not that i care so much. looks like i have moved over to aros after all.

Perhaps you should contact the IP holders and see what they are willing to do
for classic owners. But, then again since you have chosen to go with AROS, which
runs on 68k, ............... why put down people that are not working on 68k....
......I'm confused, you got me. Other than bashing a small company,,,what's
your point?

Do you still believe Hyperion should Open Source Ainc's IP?
Or,
Give away what they have worked on for some years as a company thru all kinds
of legal hassles and uncertain times?

Maybe you should be barking at Ainc, I'm sure they will listen, they always have
in the past.

Quote:

wawa wrote: another blah-blah blog item. wonder why cant they post anything essential or at least interesting like karlos,.............

Port OS4 back to 68k, write technical articles to your liking, get X1000 out the
door, show up here for their daily kick in the teeth,...........sounds like a fun
schedule you have them on. Well, idle hands and all that rot, I understand.

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@wawa

Quote:

another blah-blah blog item. wonder why cant they post anything essential or at least interresting like karlos, instead of this poor marketing. sneak peak at incoming advertisement. what magazine is it supposed to appear except of amiga future.

There's more to read if you follow the general link:
http://blog.hyperion-entertainment.biz

Sure, some entries have more content and some not quite so much.
I just link to it when there is a new entry and put it in this appropriately titled thread, where interested people can find it all in one place.

btw-neither Darren nor Steve is charged with the duty of "marketing". People asked to hear more from the developers, so they instituted the blog for that purpose. Perhaps when more developers contribute, you'll be more satisfied with the content.

#6

Last edited by number6 on 14-Jun-2011 at 01:44 PM.

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@kas1e

Fair enough...I'll take a back seat for awhile...

How about an update on your two interesting projects, MUI-OWB and MUI-MPlayer?

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@ddni

Quote:

It is a shame that people cant say thanks for what is here, rather than complain about what is coming...

i thank all involved for the announcement of upcomming advertisement of os4 classic in an amiga magazine, even though its readers are sure all anyway aware of existence of this product. of course i understand very well it wouldnt pay to advertise elsewhere.

@number6
im quite sure i have had a look at each and every item in this blog as soon it has been posted. not that it happens so frequently one had a chance to overlook something.