@ danwoood

Ahh... danwood dear desperate danwood... ;)

You can stumble around here forever saying one thing in one post then desperately trying to change it in your next post when an old fart like me proves you were wrong but the fact remains you are very wrong in much you have said here and all your changes from post to post sadly for you won't change the fact that you are wrong...

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@broadblues

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broadblues wrote: @Franko So be serious yourself you can't possibly think that ineternet mobiles phones and other tech don't make it easier to keep in touch with people than 30 years ago.

Did I say that it didn't... Answer = No...

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And this generations teenagers will aghast that the next can't communicate by sending a simpl etx because they are too busy 'picting' sending message by remote touch or insert favourite tech from your

Well if i could figure out what you were trying to say there I may attempt to answer it...

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@Franko

If you say so fella. Keep living in the 70s if that's what makes you happy.

In this era of globalization, there are many progresses to further improve the qualities of our lives, fearing it, dismissing it, or refusing to embrace it and the qualities and enrichment it can bring to your life is much "sadder" in my view.

For the rest of us, progress is always a good thing because it is always needed to ensure a better future.

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@Daedalus

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Daedalus wrote: @Franko [quote] Franko wrote: Indeed they are, just like many other devices like phones etc. So, if I can run the same software on my iPhone as on my iPad, does that make my iPhone a computer?

Can't answer that one as i've never seen an iPhone...

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You ask what else they would be as if you think the answer's obvious, but in fact it really is getting a little blurry. People see TVs with internet as "smart TVs" and think of them as a TV with a computer inside. Many people *don't* see iPads as computers, they see them as iPads, or overgrown iPhones. The definition hasn't really changed, but given that your computer, your iPad, your phone and your TV can all do the same thing, what makes one of them a computer and the other not?

Can't say why some people may think a "Smart TV" is a computer, my microwave oven has microchips inside it and a keypad on it but I sure as hell wouldn't call it a computer by any stretch of the imagination...

If a mobile phone has the ability to browse the net and run software and has a keyboard be it onscreen or physical then yes it just a very small computer but your missing the entire point here...

This thread is not about what you I or anyone else considers a computer to be, it was about someone making a post on a YouTube video about an old C64 and asking the question "Was that even possible back then" and the thread became hi-jacked by people for some strange reason desperately trying to prove what they think the definition of a computer is...

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@danwood

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danwood wrote: @Franko If you say so fella. Keep living in the 70s if that's what makes you happy. In this era of globalization, there are many progresses to further improve the qualities of our lives, fearing it, dismissing it, or refusing to embrace it and the qualities and enrichment it can bring to your life is much "sadder" in my view. For the rest of us, progress is always a good thing because it is always needed to ensure a better future.

Oh I do say so,,, but I've no idea what your fascination with the 70's is, are you so unhappy with the era you live in that you secretly wish you were in the 70's instead !!!

Nothing is sadder than someone like yourself who thinks that 30 years ago you could only talk to people in the same village and would have been so bored back then that you wouldn't have had a clue how to entertain yourself, that my friend is not just sad it's a sign of someone who has missed out on life and is a prisoner to all that technology he mistakenly thinks has made his life worth living...

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@Franko

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You don't walk into a Sony or Panasonic TV shop, Curry's or anywhere and they have a big sign above their TV sets saying "Computers"... The definition of a computer isn't outdated nor has it changed, iPads are a computer (what else would they be),

How quickly do you want to contradict yourself. I don't think you'll find iPads under big signs saying "Computers..." either. The signs will either say Tablets, or just iPads...

@Pleng

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Pleng wrote: @Franko How quickly do you want to contradict yourself. I don't think you'll find iPads under big signs saying "Computers..." either. The signs will either say Tablets, or just iPads...

Exactly. But as soon as Franko's arguments start to fall through, he just brushes it aside, calling off topic and ignoring the points made. The fact is, discussions like this just go nowhere, probably best to just leave him to his ideas and divert your energies into something a little more constructive.

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@Pleng

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Pleng wrote: @Franko How quickly do you want to contradict yourself. I don't think you'll find iPads under big signs saying "Computers..." either. The signs will either say Tablets, or just iPads...

No contradictions here mate, an IPad is a computer nothing more nothing less...

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@Franko

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Ahh... (username) dear desperate (username)...

@Daedalus

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Daedalus wrote: @Pleng Exactly. But as soon as Franko's arguments start to fall through, he just brushes it aside, calling off topic and ignoring the points made. The fact is, discussions like this just go nowhere, probably best to just leave him to his ideas and divert your energies into something a little more constructive.

Nothing I have said has fallen through, and nothing has been brushed off in case you hadn't noticed I've replied to almost all these off topic posts here including yours...

Seems folk like yourself just hate being proven wrong and come up with lame excuses to bail out when they realise but won't admit they are wrong...

You should stick to your own advice and not get involved in threads that you don't consider constructive in the first place instead of posting in them only to contradict yourself and ignore your own advice you give to others, odd thing to do that...eh...

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@resle

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resle wrote: @Franko Quote: Ahh... (username) dear desperate (username)...

Why did you post a picture of yourself !!!

Didn't think this thread was about you admiring yourself in a mirror... still stranger things have happened I suppose...

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Lets for the sake of doing something a bit different & unusual here and throw some FACTS into this thread...

FACT: this thread was about a comment posted in reply to a YouTube video about a C64 advert...

FACT: There is nothing in the video in question or indeed in the question asked by the poster on YouTube about either the internet or what some people consider the definition of the word "Computer" to mean...

FACT: Certain folk when it wandered off topic into the realms of the internet & the definition of the word "Computer" replied with some of the most craziest whacked out comments I've had the misfortune to read this side of Moobunny...

FACT: Not once in the real world have I ever asked and been answered by either someone I know or in a computer store by it's staff when asking the question "I'm interested in buying a new computer" have they either said or directed me to the section selling mobile phones or TV's...

FACT: When I mentioned once that the subject had wandered off topic this was used by a certain absurd person to claim that I was somehow failing in my arguments, strange that when any other members or moderators point out a thread is going off topic that this same absurd person doesn't accuse them of failing in their arguments...

FACT: I never once contradicted anything I have said in this thread despite the delusional ramblings of someone who thinks that I did...

FACT: Facts seem to upset certain members here when those facts simply prove what they are saying is wrong or are even just plain dumb & ignorant in some of their comments...

FACT: It's always a great source of joy and pleasure to me on these forums to try and help educate some of these delusional people who post such absurd answers and crazy opinions, in the vain hope that one day they will see how wrong they were and maybe, just maybe stop posting crazy opinions & drivel and instead just for a wee change one day actually post something sensible or dare I say it an actual FACT...

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@TheDaddy

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TheDaddy wrote: Globalisation, transnationals, corporations, privatisation and capitalism = the mother of all evils and unhappiness in the world.

Nah... dropping a nice freshly made slice of toast that always lands butter side down is the real cause of global unhappiness and many wars...

Well that and "Reality TV Shows"...

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On the definition of a computer, this is what a computer is to me. However, I agree that the lines are completely blurred to many people these days.

COMPUTER: Software: It has an OS that can accept both keyboard and mouse input. Hardware: I can attach a real keyboard, and a mouse to it. Can be any shape or size, portable, non-portable, it doesn't matter. But above all else I must be able to attach these two devices to it if I so wish.

If you just want to consume content on the internet you are not 'computing'. Nowadays if that's all you want to do you buy a device such as an iPad which is not geared towards real productivity.

Apple recognised the difference clearly (just like me) and this is precisely why the iPad (in its current form factor) does not possess a USB port.

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@rkerkaif

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rkerkaif wrote:

Ooooh lovely...

I'll take two prom dresses for meself (size small)...

and a Wedding gown for wee fat Albert the talking squirrels soon to be missus (she's preggers so make it express delivery)...

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@jingof

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jingof wrote: @Franko Quote: The most ironic thing is computers (the very thing we all love) are to blame for this... Computers are largely responsible. The other big component is the rampant use of drugs going on, with weed containing 15x to 30x the THC levels of our generation. Roughly half of high school students in the US are using drugs regularly now with these ridiculous and unprecedented THC levels, according to a recent news report. And because of the widespread nature of the problem, teens are considering this "normal" and entering the workforce while retaining these habits. For example, another news report showed US factory workers at an Airplane manufacturing facility, early to mid-20's, getting high during their lunch break, while talking on their technology. Then, returning to the manufacturing floor to finish putting the airplane together, while high. Again, you can surely think of cases like this from 30 years ago. But it is a question of statistics. The median cases, not the outliers.

If the world managed to get past the 60s I think it's safe to say that it will survive mostly anything you throw at it...

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@Franko

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Franko wrote: Moderation Note: Deleted quoted commercial ads. I like your reply though. --- Moxee

Awe... the weddings off now and poor wee Albertina (she was wee fat Albert the talking squirrels soon to be pregnant wife) will now be tarred as a single mother and have to nip down the social and get a grant instead to bring up her illegitimate offspring...

And I was looking forward to me nice new prom dress too...

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@pixie

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pixie wrote: If the world managed to get past the 60s I think it's safe to say that it will survive mostly anything you throw at it...

Did the world really get past the 60's... eh... did it !!!

Or is this whole internet & computers thing nothing more than some spaced out hippies LSD trip and we, it and everything in the universe are all just part of his whacked out trip...

Sometimes wonder meself when I read some of the posts here...

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