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Poll : Continue to build new PPC hardware?
Become a retro platform with Raspberry Pi or other hardware?
Port to x86 or ARM and get a new mobo etc.
Switch to unix/linux core asap and build great Amiga like experience and call it AmigaX?
 
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kolla 
Re: What would you accept (wish or dream of) as next Amiga?
Posted on 29-Nov-2021 11:46:26
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It was made almost 25 years ago. in 1997 it was ok.
repeating this today with arm is extremely stupid.

More like extremely CHEAP! And FUN!

That it pisses you off is just a bonus.

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Re: What would you accept (wish or dream of) as next Amiga?
Posted on 29-Nov-2021 14:16:31
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"What would you accept (wish or dream of) as next Amiga?"

System that works like my A4k did, but faster and with a few new features.

(my SAM is slightly limited and buggy, my MorphMini is old but ~ok)

Rpi4 with 8GB might be all I need, if 3D etc can be supported to make it fast on AmigaLikeOS5.
But I would love to see also a higher end system as well with a few PCIe slots.

We need more tools for developers, like Python3.

(I would be very happy with AOS5 that looks and behaves like AmigaOS + has memoryprotection +64bit + multicoresupport for new apps and sandbox for old apps. Too much time & effort go to drug/tweak old AOS to have those new capabilities. And I would not have any problem if there is a "rabbithole" for mainstream apps.)

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Re: What would you accept (wish or dream of) as next Amiga?
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@kolla

It is cheap crap. Making software for x86/arm is boring.
It will be something like this -> emulator detected please use android.

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Re: What would you accept (wish or dream of) as next Amiga?
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ppcamiga1 Quote:

It was made almost 25 years ago. in 1997 it was ok.
repeating this today with arm is extremely stupid.


kolla Quote:

More like extremely CHEAP! And FUN!


Is cheap and poor ARM fun?

1994 68060 >1.52 DMIPS/MHz
1997 SA-110 StrongARM 1.12 DMIPS/MHz

DEC ARM was cheap embedded hardware so it wouldn't compete with the desktop DEC Alpha. Motorola wouldn't let the now embedded 68k hardware compete with the desktop PPC architecture either despite the 8 stage 68060 being a better candidate to clock up than all the shallow pipeline RISC processors and early shallow pipeline Pentium processors. The 68060 was better than ARM for embedded use too as it has better DMIPS/MHz so it doesn't need to be clocked up as far to be competitive, it is a better cache and memory miser and it is one of the easiest to program in assembler of any CPU ever made. The 68060 is more my idea of fun than cheap and poor ARM but unfortunately Motorola wouldn't even let it compete with StrongARM in the mid '90s. A 68060@150MHz would have been higher performance than a StrongARM SA-110 at 200MHz 25 years ago and the 8 stage 68060 should have been easier to clock up than the 5 stage StrongARM SA-110 CPU RISC pipeline.

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