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Poll : Yes! Intel Inside out!
PowerPC forever!
PowerARM!
x86? No x64 is what you should aim for!
Port it the A500 Mini.
What's OS4?
No get over it already.
Port OS4 to pancakes so I can eat them.
 
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ne_one 
Re: You can play different flavors of AmigaOS on x86!
Posted on 8-May-2022 18:07:34
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@OneTimer1

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There is no need for another port.


Agreed. There are lots of options if you want to preserve the legacy platform.

I'm surprised the poll option (and the discussion) rarely considers reimplementing the OS and providing emulation capabilities as a fallback.

Yes, it's a not a trivial exercise but compared to hoping to leverage 40 year old code...?

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 8-May-2022 18:11:53
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@Hypex

AROS defined itself as an "implementation of the AmigaOS 3.1 application programming interface (API)".

It is an Amiga OS for PCs (? or the best resemblance of it)

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 8-May-2022 23:53:38
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a poll about porting os4 to x86 without the actual option to choose x86?

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 9-May-2022 7:43:42
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@noXLar

As indicated by my second post it all messed up. I had to redo whole poll as a preview erases it all. Then after all that I found all options were wrong and the x86 option ended up in the title and gave up.

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 10-May-2022 4:29:42
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@Hypex

Although I doubt it will ever happen, I would like to be able to run OS4 on any sufficiently powerful, commonly available hardware, such as x86 or ARM or Raspberry Pi.


redfox


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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 10-May-2022 17:12:13
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@redfox

And affordable too.

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 11-May-2022 1:44:17
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@Hypex

I am sorry that I am not able to say anything new.
I think it is a good idea to port OS 4.X to AMD 64 and also to Raspberry Pi.


edit: I wish PPC was cheaper and more available.

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 28-May-2022 20:14:04
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@Hypex

I think it's time for another "joining the forces" thread. It seems like it's been a while.

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 28-May-2022 22:24:01
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Is not Aros open source? Their no rule saying you can not make your own version of it with changes you want?- IE- more Os 4-like. and make your own distro?

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Karlos 
Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 28-May-2022 23:18:18
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Well, that requires skill, effort and motivation.

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Posted on 28-May-2022 23:43:39
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@Karlos

And a lawyer or two, and some pretty thick skin, no doubt.

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 29-May-2022 1:07:47
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@hardwaretech

This is already being done, but there are hardware compatibility issues with the distros (respins?) I've tried. The AROS X86-64 hosted-on-Linux version works well, but there are very few apps.

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 29-May-2022 3:20:58
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@bison

Quote:

bison wrote:
@Hypex

I think it's time for another "joining the forces" thread. It seems like it's been a while.

Calling them 'forces' might be giving them way too much credit. Some are worthy of the label 'initiative', some are 'side projects' with an open-ended delivery date, and then there are the 'projects on life support'.

I'm not sure combining all these together would have the desired effect.

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Re: Is it time for another port AmigaOS 4 to x86 thread?
Posted on 29-May-2022 4:44:42
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your can legally copy the function as long as you make it without knowledge of the original code ie blind room programming. it's how the original bios were copied. So far all I've seen is people who like to complain and not buckle down and do the work.

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@hardwaretech: you can copy everything from AROS without a clean-room approach, and release your products based on its source code.

But you have to release the changes that you've made on that code. This is the only (reasonable) restriction.

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I am talking about the changes to make it more os 4 like

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@hardwaretech

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@cdimauro

I am talking about the changes to make it more os 4 like

It doesn't change what I've said (read: it's certainly possible).

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@hardwaretech

http://www.aros-platform.de/Scalos_OS4_X86.png

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It's getting there.

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Posted on 29-May-2022 8:57:18
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@Karlos

I think what most people ask is visual (f.e. icons) and desktop related. The only exception is 68k integration, on aros you use UAE and have nothing like Petunia. Except that I think it is possible to do. I personal do not own or use OS4 but perhaps someone will do. People often mix desktop and OS.

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