Click Here
home features news forums classifieds faqs links search
6093 members 
Amiga Q&A /  Free for All /  Emulation /  Gaming / (Latest Posts)
Login

Nickname

Password

Lost Password?

Don't have an account yet?
Register now!

Support Amigaworld.net
Your support is needed and is appreciated as Amigaworld.net is primarily dependent upon the support of its users.
Donate

Menu
Main sections
Home
Features
News
Forums
Classifieds
Links
Downloads
Extras
OS4 Zone
IRC Network
AmigaWorld Radio
Newsfeed
Top Members
Amiga Dealers
Information
About Us
FAQs
Advertise
Polls
Terms of Service
Search

IRC Channel
Server: irc.amigaworld.net
Ports: 1024,5555, 6665-6669
SSL port: 6697
Channel: #Amigaworld
Channel Policy and Guidelines

Who's Online
22 crawler(s) on-line.
 23 guest(s) on-line.
 2 member(s) on-line.


 amigakit,  BigD

You are an anonymous user.
Register Now!
 BigD:  44 secs ago
 amigakit:  3 mins ago
 pixie:  10 mins ago
 Karlos:  15 mins ago
 Rob:  45 mins ago
 amigang:  1 hr 3 mins ago
 bhabbott:  1 hr 14 mins ago
 Seiya:  1 hr 39 mins ago
 Mod3mski:  1 hr 44 mins ago
 ferrels:  2 hrs ago

/  Forum Index
   /  Amiga General Chat
      /  Dv player/emotion
Register To Post

Goto page ( 1 | 2 Next Page )
PosterThread
Tiw1 
Dv player/emotion
Posted on 31-Jan-2023 18:42:51
#1 ]
Member
Joined: 30-Aug-2018
Posts: 27
From: Unknown

Anyone know what the difference is between these 2, thank you

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Rob 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 31-Jan-2023 20:03:45
#2 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 20-Mar-2003
Posts: 6319
From: S.Wales

@Tiw1

There's demos of both on OS4 Depot. You can compare features listed in the description of each player.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Tiw1 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 31-Jan-2023 21:05:44
#3 ]
Member
Joined: 30-Aug-2018
Posts: 27
From: Unknown

@Rob

Ok thank you, but what is the application of one to another.Like is one better for dvd,etc. or is the other one better for YouTube stuff like that. I am going to buy both but not at same time.Already bought Enancer2.0 and some other stuff. Amiga kit is allowing the return of the warp 3d southern islands for the nova bridge.but I thought that is included in the enhancer 2.0 ,I have a Radeon ssf 7750 1 gig.to be honest its quite confusing none the less.(did not download the 3d southern islands sf as of yet)

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Trixie 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 1-Feb-2023 8:03:59
#4 ]
Amiga Developer Team
Joined: 1-Sep-2003
Posts: 2084
From: Czech Republic

@Tiw1

AFAIK DvPlayer doesn't support web streaming. Emotion does.

_________________
The Rear Window blog

AmigaOne X5000/020 @ 2GHz / 4GB RAM / Radeon RX 560 / ESI Juli@ / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition
SAM440ep-flex @ 667MHz / 1GB RAM / Radeon 9250 / AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Tiw1 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 1-Feb-2023 17:02:30
#5 ]
Member
Joined: 30-Aug-2018
Posts: 27
From: Unknown

@Trixie

Ok many thanks that is exactly what I was looking to have answered.Its not easy to choose and already bought several pieces of software so have to spread this out a little. Thank you again

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
imagodespira 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 4-Feb-2023 10:27:48
#6 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 20-Sep-2009
Posts: 256
From: Germany

@Tiw1

Frank, our coder , is working hard on an Emotion Update. We hope to get it released next Week.
So, Emotion is still alive ;)

https://entwickler-x.de/mantis/roadmap_page.php

Last edited by imagodespira on 04-Feb-2023 at 10:29 AM.

_________________
www.amiboing.de - www.entwickler-x.de

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
ktadd 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 4-Feb-2023 18:59:41
#7 ]
Cult Member
Joined: 30-Jul-2003
Posts: 587
From: California, USA

@imagodespira
Quote:
Frank, our coder , is working hard on an Emotion Update.

Would be great if the frames were updated when seeking while the video is paused. From the GUI and AREXX. I had started adding Emotion support to VideoClipper but the inability for the fame to update while the video remains paused is what kept if from being usable. An option to keep the video clipper GUI visable after playing a video, so I would play multiple videos in a row without the GUI closing and opening would be good as well.

Last edited by ktadd on 04-Feb-2023 at 07:08 PM.
Last edited by ktadd on 04-Feb-2023 at 07:04 PM.

_________________
Kevin - X1000 First Contact / uA1

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Gregor 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 15-Feb-2023 11:31:38
#8 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 12-Sep-2011
Posts: 212
From: Unknown

Should Emotion be able to run 1280x720/30fps videos (from SSD HD) smoothly with a Radeon HD 6450 and X5000? I have encountered problems with almost all videos I have tested. What is peculiar, some videos which show constant distortions with Emotion 1.9, work much better with 1.1-demo.

I have RadeonHD v. 3.7 and va.library v. 1.11 installed.

For comparison, with Linux and VLC (with HW acceleration enabled) all 720p videos have worked without problems, using the same hardware.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
imagodespira 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 15-Feb-2023 15:35:55
#9 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 20-Sep-2009
Posts: 256
From: Germany

@ktadd:

We will see if we can include it, if it makes sense. I will talk with Frank about it and put it on our list.

@Gregor: Your GFX Card dont have Support for video acceleration in HW, so your CPU is working hard and it depends on the video codec if it is smooth or not. Go for a RadonRX card in your X5000 and you will be able to play it smooth.

_________________
www.amiboing.de - www.entwickler-x.de

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Gregor 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 15-Feb-2023 20:05:15
#10 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 12-Sep-2011
Posts: 212
From: Unknown

@imagodespira
Quote:
Your GFX Card dont have Support for video acceleration in HW, so your CPU is working hard and it depends on the video codec if it is smooth or not. Go for a RadonRX card in your X5000 and you will be able to play it smooth.

So, is the problem lack of HW acceleration support in AmigaOS components, or in Emotion itself? Does Dv player have the same problem with HD 6450?

Unfortunately a RX card is not a solution for me as I would then loose both Linux and MorphOS, and thus the modern browsers I need for everyday tasks! But I can still use Linux/VLC, as the HD 6450 hw acceleration is supported there, both video and 3D.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Spectre660 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 15-Feb-2023 21:29:54
#11 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 4-Jun-2005
Posts: 3918
From: Unknown

@Gregor

You might be able to try this :

Tutorial: Using two graphics cards in the AmigaOne X5000

_________________
Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
K-L 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 15-Feb-2023 21:58:32
#12 ]
Super Member
Joined: 3-Mar-2006
Posts: 1410
From: Oullins, France

@Gregor

Hardware acceleration is provided by latest Radeon HD and RX drivers (A-Eon).

For Radeon HD, only Southern Islands chipsets are supported (Radeon 7000 - 9000 series and R7 - R9 series).

_________________
PowerMac G5 2,7Ghz - 2GB - Radeon 9650 - MorphOS 3.14
AmigaONE X1000, 2GB, Sapphire Radeon HD 7700
FPGA Replay + DB 68060 at 85Mhz

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
imagodespira 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 16-Feb-2023 7:01:33
#13 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 20-Sep-2009
Posts: 256
From: Germany

@Gregor

When Emotion 1.9 does not work better than the Demo 1.1, can you please compare the tooltypes and settings in menu? Maybe the "Compositing" Enabled acceleration could help a bit (here the CPU decodes the video but compositing is blitting the images and it may help). Maybe it is deactivated in your full version.

We also hope to get the newest update finished soon, Frank has to solve a problem and then his current list is done. Maybe we can get some improvements here but HW acceleration is important today (no other system uses CPU decoding, only Amiga makes it possible ;) )

Note: I also use a RadeonHD R7 250 and i can not use acceleration in my X1000 :(

_________________
www.amiboing.de - www.entwickler-x.de

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Spectre660 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 16-Feb-2023 11:54:09
#14 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 4-Jun-2005
Posts: 3918
From: Unknown

@imagodespira

Wonder if you have filed a bug report ?
Best chance of getting the issues fixed is if the person with the specific issues
files the bug report and can test the fixes .
Not everyone has the same combination of hardware .


Quote:
Note: I also use a RadeonHD R7 250 and i can not use acceleration in my X1000 :(

_________________
Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
K-L 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 16-Feb-2023 12:36:54
#15 ]
Super Member
Joined: 3-Mar-2006
Posts: 1410
From: Oullins, France

@imagodespira

Weird, I'm using an R7 250 and Emotion is using hardware decoding (with latest Radeon HD driver) with problems already mentioned (720p maximum).

_________________
PowerMac G5 2,7Ghz - 2GB - Radeon 9650 - MorphOS 3.14
AmigaONE X1000, 2GB, Sapphire Radeon HD 7700
FPGA Replay + DB 68060 at 85Mhz

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
imagodespira 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 16-Feb-2023 14:50:55
#16 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 20-Sep-2009
Posts: 256
From: Germany

@K-L: The acceleration with newest RadeonHD seemst to be only on paper or for purchasing the driver ;) The RadeonHD should play 1080p videos with no big CPU impact.

Last edited by imagodespira on 16-Feb-2023 at 02:51 PM.

_________________
www.amiboing.de - www.entwickler-x.de

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Spectre660 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 16-Feb-2023 17:27:42
#17 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 4-Jun-2005
Posts: 3918
From: Unknown

@imagodespira

I am with you on this one .
Something is causing a bottle neck .

Quote:

imagodespira wrote:
@K-L: The acceleration with newest RadeonHD seemst to be only on paper or for purchasing the driver ;) The RadeonHD should play 1080p videos with no big CPU impact.

_________________
Sam460ex : Radeon Rx550 Single slot Video Card : SIL3112 SATA card

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Gregor 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 16-Feb-2023 21:38:36
#18 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 12-Sep-2011
Posts: 212
From: Unknown

@Spectre660
Quote:

You might be able to try this :
Tutorial: Using two graphics cards in the AmigaOne X5000


Thanks, I am already aware of this possibility... Unfortunately I do not have currently free space in my X5000 for a second graphics board. I have already an almost unused R7 240 board which I may try later with a riser, but the reports here suggest that HW acceleration does not really work with R7s.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Gregor 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 16-Feb-2023 21:52:17
#19 ]
Regular Member
Joined: 12-Sep-2011
Posts: 212
From: Unknown

@imagodespira
Quote:
When Emotion 1.9 does not work better than the Demo 1.1, can you please compare the tooltypes and settings in menu? Maybe the "Compositing" Enabled acceleration could help a bit (here the CPU decodes the video but compositing is blitting the images and it may help). Maybe it is deactivated in your full version.

I have already tried to adjust the settings as much as possible to match the 1.1, but no luck. Do you mean by "Compositing" enabled acceleration the 'YUVAccel' and 'VAAPIAccel' tooltypes? They are both already "TRUE".

Quote:
We also hope to get the newest update finished soon, Frank has to solve a problem and then his current list is done. Maybe we can get some improvements here but HW acceleration is important today (no other system uses CPU decoding, only Amiga makes it possible ;)

How do you plan to distribute the update? Any idea how much it will cost?-)

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Hans 
Re: Dv player/emotion
Posted on 17-Feb-2023 5:35:44
#20 ]
Elite Member
Joined: 27-Dec-2003
Posts: 5045
From: New Zealand

@Spectre660

Quote:

Spectre660 wrote:
@imagodespira

I am with you on this one .
Something is causing a bottle neck .

Quote:

imagodespira wrote:
@K-L: The acceleration with newest RadeonHD seemst to be only on paper or for purchasing the driver ;) The RadeonHD should play 1080p videos with no big CPU impact.


I wish we had access to some more sophisticated performance analysis tools. Having a profile of what's taking up the most time might help figuring out where the excess CPU time is being swallowed up...

Hans

_________________
http://hdrlab.org.nz/ - Amiga OS 4 projects, programming articles and more. Home of the RadeonHD driver for Amiga OS 4.x project.
https://keasigmadelta.com/ - More of my work.

 Status: Offline
Profile     Report this post  
Goto page ( 1 | 2 Next Page )

[ home ][ about us ][ privacy ] [ forums ][ classifieds ] [ links ][ news archive ] [ link to us ][ user account ]
Copyright (C) 2000 - 2019 Amigaworld.net.
Amigaworld.net was originally founded by David Doyle