I've kept abreast with things happening in the Amiga community for a long time. For several years I was very interested and conducted interviews with amiga openbsd maintainers, Olaf Barthel (spelling?) and Heinze Whorble... I feel of the bandwagon round about all the legal stuff started going on between Ainc and Hyperion or during one of the updates, pre OS4 final.

The AmigaOne was never something I was going to buy.

Neither was the the micro thingy.

But latly i've been wanting to setup a PVR. I'll use linux for that, but another thing i want to do is set up a File server. I've got 6*80G disks in my ONLY PC at the moment and they're all full or just about.

This sounds like a neat idea for a file server and possibly and terminal server as well.

Plus i get to play with AmigaOS.

If they go through with it, it'll be the best chance Amiga has at reinvigorating their small community.

If i was ACK Controls, i would also team up with people such as MorphOS/BeOS and ppc linux people to get some decent hardware out there for these small nich groups. If all the small niche groups merged their efforts and attention to one platform, we could all benefits from economies of scale.

@TheDungeonDelver

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Boy howdy you sure don't do you? PCI-Express and PCI aren't the same thing. You can't put a PCI card in a PCI-e slot, and vice-versa. Different connection, different number of wires, etc. etc.

I'm not an hardware engineer but i think i could get the fact that PCIe != PCI. What i was really wondering about is why complain about PCIe when 'til yesterday everybody's complaining about the lack of it. Amazing, isn't it?

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Spec looks pretty much as expected, but one PCI slot on a system without built-in audio? Ouch.

Of course: it's an evaluation board ! It has never been meant for desktop computing ! :)

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Yes, but you'd be very lucky to find a PCI-E sound card. Not sure about TV-cards but AFAIK most are PCI still.

maybe but check this out
soundblaster usb

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@jkirk

Note that the OS4 USB stack does not support USB audio. It doesn't support isochronous transfers which are necessary.

The audio issue is a bit complicated for this board:
- Do you really want an USB device hanging out at the back of your system just to have audio?
- PCI-E audio cards hardly exist or are from Creative which means no drivers
- Putting a low quality CMI8738 chip on board doesn't fit with 'high-end'
- The best idea would be to put a HD audio chip on it, but that requires an audio controller that is usually fit into a southbridge. The PA semi lacks an audio controller that can driver an AC'97 or HD audio chip AFAIK.

This means you are stuck with putting an audio card in that one PCI slot. Which is a problem in itself, since what card are they gonna deliver with it?

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I'm very impressed with the specs, but still sceptical. As I said on the low-end announcement, I'll believe it when I see it.

Whether I buy it or not, I'll leave to the release date - my AmigaOne G4 is perfectly suitable at the moment.

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A potential market for these boards is for low power consuming 1U servers

If all that hardware will be really out someday, that is the most important factor to make it success: sell it out of Amiga diehards. Sad, but real as live, we are a very limited custom base and every single computer sold out of the comunity will make Amiga continue alive a little more.

If you can sell boards for servers, code a good PoS software for the low end boards and sell some hundred of them , ... That are the markets that can give serious money and make a reputation of Amiga computers and OS as new, solid machines and not diehard only stuff.

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To people who have purchased new (not used) big-box Amigas in the past, how much did you pay? I'm curious to know truely expensive this $1498 price is for the Amiga community.

I paid £1,100 for an Amigaone powersystem from Eyetech.

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Do you really belevie in this specs ??

People c'mon come back to reality...

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People c'mon come back to reality...

Nah not yet

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Would you have a board to show at BB5 in September ?

( Here We go Again)

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The audio issue is a bit complicated for this board:- Do you really want an USB device hanging out at the back of your system just to have audio?

Nah. Put a Firewire card in one of them pcie slots and use a high-end external audio and midi rack.

What do you mean 'no Firewire drivers'? What do you mean 'no Firewire audio drivers'? Surely, when Hyperion rewrite the kernal and I/O to be multicore and 64bit they will do all the rest soon after?

I suppose that might be a small problem .

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I did some research and those are nothing less, nothing more than the P.A. Powerficient system.
So, if Ack is building new Amiga hardware based on this system, why should we be surprised/reticent about them?

Now, if just they would stop the OS litigation right now...

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Would you have a board to show at BB5 in September ?

I like your thinking, count me in on being there, even if I have to swap shifts to attend!

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It´s just me or the boing balls on your Avatar pass faster than previously

If you stare at them for a long time and try really hard, you can slow them down with your mind.

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@ack

Photo of the motherboard????

It's all looking very good, but it still remains to be seen if these products from ACK will ever show the light of day, and the big question is what type of AmigaOS there will be to run this
Power System

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Photo of the motherboard????

The picture in http://www.pasemi.com/downloads/PA_Semi_Electra_Brief.pdf is probably not far off. Just imagine IDE being replaced by SATA and a couple of minor things.

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@Skyraker

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If you stare at them for a long time and try really hard, you can slow them down with your mind.

If you look at them in your peripheral vision, they seem to run slower than if you look directly at them.

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well at least nobody wanted an ISA-slot

Or even Zorro in one of its incanations... Thios really frightens me you know. Where are all those diehard Amigans with lots of Zorro bus expansions somewhere in their loft or garden shed.
A clockport would have been nice to. Jens Schoenfeld might wet himself all over!

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