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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 14:45:56
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| I will definitely start saving money for this High-End Model already now, and the best thing is that while waiting, i have the great PC at home to use, including XBox 360
But i have to know what type of AmigaOS this High-End is to use _________________ Helge K. Leaving the Amiga in favour of a PC..
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 15:32:45
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| I hope the motherboard gets offered separately, otherwise I'll still be running my AmigaOne XE for a good number of years yet. More money than I want to spend on this to get a board, considering I have PLENTY of parts here to build a machine with (AmigaOne plus three PCs, and a handful of spare parts). _________________ This posting, in it's entirety, is the opinion and/or statement of the author and does not reflect the views and/or position of this site.
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 15:33:41
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| *lol* Sorry dudes, have you EVER seen any realized announcement of ACK? I'm a bit confused that Merlancia isn`t a partner too...
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I will definitely start saving money for this High-End Model already now |
Then you will save your money for an unlimited time. But maybe they will create some new 50$-coupons for the new hardware...
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But i have to know what type of AmigaOS this High-End is to use |
AmigaOS 5? x-D I dunno. AmigaOS 4 can't because it`s not 64bit multicore compatible. Besides the fact that there must be new drivers (SATA, PCIe, 1GBit ENet, ...). Linux would be more realistic.Last edited by DaFreak on 08-May-2007 at 03:42 PM.
_________________ Sam440ep & AmigaOS4.1 @ Morex 3677 case --- (DaFreak of Liquid Skies & Moods Plateau)
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 15:51:41
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| Wow! Now we are talking. Powerfull computer system, at a normal price too. Can't wait til the end of the year, for this baby to come home to me
Would be nice to see it running an AmigaOS that can handle it (USB2, Dualcore CPU at full speed). |
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 16:15:07
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| @DWolfman
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hope the motherboard gets offered separately, otherwise I'll still be running my AmigaOne XE for a good number of years yet. More money than I want to spend on this to get a board, considering I have PLENTY of parts here to build a machine with (AmigaOne plus three PCs, and a handful of spare parts). |
No, motherboards won't be offered separately.
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 16:19:01
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Adam has stated in irc that boards will not be sold, only complete systems. |
Hmm, then I guess I won't be buying one of these "systems".
Adam, I hope you and Amiga Inc reconsider that position. There are a lot of Amiga users, like myself, who don't want to buy a complete system. _________________ This posting, in it's entirety, is the opinion and/or statement of the author and does not reflect the views and/or position of this site.
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 16:28:32
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| Now thats more like it, bring it on. I hope this doesn't take to long to come out and for around £750.
@elwood
The A1000, A2000, A3000 and A4000 all cost at least twice as much when they came out. |
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 17:23:41
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| ACK = How to produce next vapour hardware |
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 17:37:47
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| @Totally_Blind_Mule
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ACK = How to produce next vapour hardware |
Lets wait and see shall we? _________________ SAM 460 with 2GB or RAM, 1000GB HD, 4 port SATA, DVDRW drive and Radeon HD 4650 GFX card.
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 17:48:38
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Come on then, lets see a release date. |
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From here this a.m. http://www.amiga.com/news/?art=28
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Power level product ready for Customers Winter 2007 |
#6 _________________ This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author. *Secrecy has served us so well*
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 17:54:40
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| So you would never by a mac either then? You never bought a commodore amiga?
Wait and see? |
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 17:56:43
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| @DWolfman
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Adam, I hope you and Amiga Inc reconsider that position. There are a lot of Amiga users, like myself, who don't want to buy a complete system. |
I seriously doubt that the decision will change, and I don't support selling motherboards only based on the added level of technical support and wasted time selling A1 boards only caused. I would rather lose a sale than have an upset customer who's annoyed that the memory, sound card, hard drive, DVD R/W, or whatever they had lying around that didn't work in their board and how the board must be defective.
Consider it a lesson learned based on the high incident level and customer complaints and the associated whining that went with it.
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 18:13:56
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| @Adam You're perfecly right about complete systems imho. Last edited by ikir on 08-May-2007 at 06:36 PM.
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 18:14:03
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| So Adam,
You must have missed the question in so many posts recently:
Do you actually have a signed license or contract with Amiga.inc which allows you to ship either of the two boards announced with Amiga OS 4?
Do you have actually the signed piece of paper? Not a promise, or an understanding, or an unsigned preliminary contract ("we'll sign it when we win the courtcase"), but a signed contract giving you license to distribute AmigaOS 4 with these two boards?
Regards
Rich _________________ Troll - n., A disenfranchised former potential customer who remains interested enough to stay informed and express critical opinions. opp., the vast majority who voted silently with their feet.
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 18:18:31
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I seriously doubt that the decision will change, and I don't support selling motherboards only based on the added level of technical support and wasted time selling A1 boards only caused. I would rather lose a sale than have an upset customer who's annoyed that the memory, sound card, hard drive, DVD R/W, or whatever they had lying around that didn't work in their board and how the board must be defective. |
I totally agree with this point. No other Computersystemprovider does sell motherboards. Apple, Dell, even Commodore did so in the good old days.
But you have to make it happen first, to change anything. Make it happen! Make it buyable, make it usable!
Otherwise, and until you achieved that, all you have is a teamup with a previously recognized Name in Computerhistory and a place between merlancia and iWin in the peoples hearts.
Sorry to say that, but its what you (can) get, that counts. |
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 18:32:08
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| Why are so many people adamant that OS4 can't function on this board without a total rewrite? IIRC, Don't PPC chips retain the 32 bit mode regardless if they're 64 bit? _________________ After a decade away from the scene, I am back!
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 18:39:23
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Do you have actually the signed piece of paper? Not a promise, or an understanding, or an unsigned preliminary contract ("we'll sign it when we win the courtcase"), but a signed contract giving you license to distribute AmigaOS 4 with these two boards? |
BTW why doesn't ACK talk to Hyperion too? In a normal business, this should be possible to secure investment, shouldn't it? Neither ACK, nor ACube have a disagreement with Hyperion and AmigaInc or each other.
There are these two parties claiming ownership. Other parties, ACK, ACube, you name it, want to use AmigaOS for their own Products as licencees (sic?). Why not ask AmigaInc AND Hyperion, if they would allow distribution of the OS and grant a licence.
If Hyperion and AInc both grant the licence, there would be no possible negative consequences when the trial is over. As a benefit for the "winner" of the trial there would have been no harm to the IP as regarding to loss of customers and/or business opportunities and reputation.
What the heck, even if they both claim payment, then the price of the boards or Systems could simply be raised by that amount! Why not work something out in that way, instead of "block-thinking" in the like of "if your not on our side, you're against us."
The world is not black and white. Nowhere. |
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 19:27:15
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BTW why doesn't ACK talk to Hyperion too? In a normal business, this should be possible to secure investment, shouldn't it? Neither ACK, nor ACube have a disagreement with Hyperion and AmigaInc or each other. |
The requirement for a license has always been that it meant securing one from Amiga Inc. first. My intention was to secure that license with Amiga Inc. prior to dealing with Hyperion regarding new hardware. With the lawsuit, I have not contacted Hyperion as it would be a conflict of interest.
I had previously been in contact with OS4 developers concerning drivers and had intended on leveraging their resources where it made sense. Should the lawsuit have soured their desire, it just means I will be responsible for more drivers.
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 19:36:19
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The requirement for a license has always been that it meant securing one from Amiga Inc. first. My intention was to secure that license with Amiga Inc. prior to dealing with Hyperion regarding new hardware. With the lawsuit, I have not contacted Hyperion as it would be a conflict of interest.
I had previously been in contact with OS4 developers concerning drivers and had intended on leveraging their resources where it made sense. Should the lawsuit have soured their desire, it just means I will be responsible for more drivers.
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I presume you have got sources (or access to sources), right? _________________ Amiga Developer Amiga 500, Efika, Mac Mini and PowerBook
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Re: Power System Specs announced Posted on 8-May-2007 19:40:52
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| @itix
In theory, if all he needs to add is drivers, he just needs the SDK. |
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