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Hey! Some of us are balding... how about a nice ball cap?

I'm totally bald (shaven)... but never wear caps or hats!

Jokes apart look forward to start downloading... I have
adsl connection so I can just start it and go to sleep and
find it ready the next morning.

Is it coming for real this time?? let's hope!

Francesco

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Stuff like Matrox partnerships are very unimportant right now

Yet the answer is somewhat intriguing. Dual/triple head drivers for the Parhelia, Matrox G650/750 anyone? Could become important for DTP (ie. Pagestream!!) and CAD apps, that'd be targeting Amiga OS4 to (semi-)professionals and high profile home users. And It would definitely help Eyetech sell AmigaOnes to the industry, IMO.

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More interesting is the situation at Amiga and future of AA/DE.

AmigaInc. are still there, what else is interesting, really? This Q&A is not the place to discuss legal issues IMVHO. The release of OS 4 alone will help them to stay afloat, if not moneywise from the sales then through the renewed reckognition of and interest in the Amiga platform. This may then help them to get new investors which could fasten up DE-velopment.

But although I, personally, am very much interested in the advancements of the DE its probably not of general interest yet. First AmigaOne, check, then AmigaOS4 , then AmigaDE/AA, that will be the priority for most people if they care for the latter at all (maybe people have to touch it on OS 4.2 before they believe it could be of value for the platform).

Anyway, a ratio of 9-1 or 8-2 of AmigaOS/One vs. DE questions would be nice for me, right now, but generally the Q&A should mostly cover the products, the platform, not the company, if you ask me.

Just my 2 german ?-Cent

Ciao, Alex

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I must admit I'm disapointed with the answer to my question. I can't make head nor tail of it.

Yes. A bit of a waste.

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A better question would have been - what will the Matrox partnership bring to us? Official drivers for example.

Before you say it - I will put this forward as a question for the next block.

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It seems to suggest that if you want to re-structure the internals of your Amiga system you will be able to do just that and move or call libs:, Devs: and everything else anything you want and everything will still work. A completely configurable OS from the ground level upwards.

It actually sounds quite cool - but seeing as this is just abstract discussion and not actual software it is difficult to get excited about it.

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'Hyperion always adopted the 'we will not release anything until completely finished' but now it seems that they will release a very early beta version?'

-- So the very early beta version is soon to be completely finished?

Bah. My Q. was not included.

well, perhaps next time.

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Yeah. I had problems as well contacting Fleecy. It seems his spam-filter is throwing out a bit too much of the real email he gets sometimes. But since he gets thousands of spam-mails and virusses sent to his account EACH DAY, it's nearly impossible to work without those filters. Some people really seem to enjoy registering Amiga inc. employees on spam-lists etc.... Very mature

I've had problems using the contacts listed on the websites too. Earlier this year when trying to get our user group organized, I sent multiple emails for requests on using the AUG seal and authrorization for logo use. Every email I sent went unanswered, and I even tried the newer ones at Amigadev.net at the time. It genuinely felt like I was sending mail to someone who was ignoring me.

Frusteration doesn't begin to outline the feeling, so I can see why a developer would walk away after months of no replies. I was following the links that it said you should reply to for information, but they are obviously seriously outdated.

Lucky for me, a member of our group has some better contacts with Amiga, and told me to send a request to Gary Peak, who answered all of my questions in a prompt and timely manner.

I will say that since I've had my email displayed in the public in conjunction with the user group, I have become inundated with porn, viagra/online drugs, and male enhancement emails that I never got before. I've tried to keep an open mind and hope that there is nobody in this community that would do that for spite. I simply never got that junk spam before. It could just be bots searching webpages for addresses. But if you use Windows, I recommend checking out MailWasher.

Odd. I emailed fleecy (on a completely different matter) and
got a reply within a couple of hours. Must have timed an
opening in his daily workload or something
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SlimJim

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Poster: SlimJim Date: 3-Dec-2003 21:12:30 Odd. I emailed fleecy (on a completely different matter) and got a reply within a couple of hours. Must have timed an opening in his daily workload or something

Well, to be fair about this, I've never tried to email Fleecy. For what I was doing, it said on Amiga's website to contact "webmaster@amiga.com". I tried that, and nothing. Then I tried again and nothing... then I went to Amigadev.net and tried to email the address there "webmaster@amigadev.net", and nothing. I think I even emailed Ray directly using the email listed on one of the forums, and never got a reply. I started all of that in late March or early April. I finally got the requested info in July. That is entirely too many hoops to jump through for info.

In the end, it was all okay, but during the process, I was frusterated as heck. I hope that when the new OS4 website opens they only put contact links that are valid and have people checking the account and responding. It's hard enough to get people to listen to you once you say "Amiga" much less if you get them interested and they knock on the door and nobody answers.

Please Note: This is NOT an attempt to slam Amiga or it's employee's. I'm just telling the events based on a problem I had. Their contact problems can, and need, to be fixed.

Hey Arcwave

Gabriel and Onno said you are trying to contact me but I have no email from you, even in my dreaded spam Tartarus folder

You are definitely sending to fleecy@amiga.com? You're not on sympatico.ca are you?

cheers

fleecy moss
cto
amiga inc

Hey there

What is it you are wanting to know that was disappointing in the response?

cheers

fleecy moss
cto
amiga inc

Hey there

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"This architecture internalises the implementation and publicly presents a semantic abstraction"

architecture - component elements and the way they fit together

internalises - is hidden from view

implementation - the way it is done

semantic - meaning based = associations and relationships

abstraction - a way of wrapping and presenting something

how is that? The first sentence is definitely shorter

cheers

fleecy moss
cto
amiga inc

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architecture - component elements and the way they fit together internalises - is hidden from view implementation - the way it is done semantic - meaning based = associations and relationships abstraction - a way of wrapping and presenting something

Sounds like a .NET framework
... looooot of programmers and excelent project coordination needed (and this is what MS has and does well )

re

Treke

M$ has programmers? ! I tought they used monkeys!

Cheers

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ArcWave wrote: Anyone having trouble exchanging e-mails with Amiga Inc? I tried a couple of times to contact fleecy, but no response. I am not sure if it's an e-mail issue or something else all together. I am wanting to continue to discuss content for Amiga DE development and delpoyment.

You're kidding, right? Is this the same ArcWave from #developer on ExodusIRC?

If so, you've been around for quite a while. You don't remember the old haunt? irc.exodus.net in channel #developer?

You also know my email address, don't you?

Please email me if you would like to continue dialog on AmigaDE development.

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it said on Amiga's website to contact "webmaster@amiga.com". I tried that, and nothing.

Interesting. I just sent an email to webmaster@amiga.com and it came in fine (it is aliased directly to my email address)

Please try again and I'll reply if I receive it.

P.S. Your mail exchanger isn't on any blacklists is it?

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Interesting. I just sent an email to webmaster@amiga.com and it came in fine (it is aliased directly to my email address)

I haven't tried recently Ray. That was all back in late March/early April when we were just trying to get the User Group going. It didn't bounce back to me or anything, so I presume it was going into the mail server okay. I just never recieved a reply back from anyone. I tried that one at least twice, and the one on Amigadev.net once, then tried using whatever address you have at the bottom of your sig. My mail server is carolina.rr.com.

Another thing that could be happening is people like me could be using OE to send emails and it is formatting them in HTML format. I just had this very thing happen with one of our group members. He almost missed one of my emails because he filters out HTML formatted mail and it went directly to his trash. Anyway, I can still send you a mail and see if it goes through.

Hi,

Fleecy did respond to my e-mail finally, phew, I was starting to get concerned. :)

Thanks Fleecy!