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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 27-Oct-2005 15:47:14
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These files are damaged. Do not use these files for testing purposes... |
Regardless, I think DvPlayer should do its best not to crash but I understand how difficult it is to be robust and fast at the same time especially when dealing with streams of data. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 27-Oct-2005 15:53:30
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 27-Oct-2005 15:59:26
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I AGREE with you. @Xenic and I strangely posted simultaneously (and without consulting with one another) concerning how users might react considering that our browsers and media players and OS are "intertwined". How one of these is perceived may well reflect on how the others are perceived.
To be clear I repeat: A place to input data concerning codecs (similar to what is illustrated in the MPlayer link I supplied in my previous post) is valuable from -one- standpoint. It will show: (1)What codecs the program supports (2)What codecs the programs supports but are not -currently active- at the current state of development (3)AOS4/linux differences regarding support/behavior
This does -not- preclude the reporting of non-functioning codecs or flatout "bad" files.
Both are important ways we can improve the overall codec situation, IMO.
Edit(Added):If such documentation is available to all, then a user might be able to determine (by himself) why a file does not currently "play" as he had hoped. This knowledge, in turn, might help to eliminate the -constant- reporting of the same codec being "bad" or "unplayable". It might actually free up more time for developers to concentrate on their programs, instead of having to come here and repeat the same statements over and over about these codecs.
Best Wishes, #6 Last edited by number6 on 27-Oct-2005 at 04:13 PM.
_________________ This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author. *Secrecy has served us so well*
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 27-Oct-2005 16:35:04
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| the latest (last?) froggerng(s) had the support for the XAnim Codecs removed and the latest froggerng(s) also had the 'bagage' of the inferior avcodec indeo 3.x code per default (and it's internal so it takes precedence over any external... or the author of froggerng had gotten a call from the XAnim/Intel author(s) )
Softcinema 0.18 also supported the XAnim codecs.
http://www.motorcycle.com/mo/mcbeware/03_Roberts_Vid/kenny_indeo.avi
is a video in IV50 format and it plays perfectly for me
but... you must have the XAnim codecs AND you can't use the latest Froggerng it MUST be 2.05 or older (or softcinema)
AMP also plays it (with the help of the XAnim Codecs) _________________ MicroSoft Game Studios == 
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 27-Oct-2005 16:51:21
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Thanks for the post. Curious... Do you have anything more recent than the program & codecs from the 2.07 archive for Frogger? Mine shows both the codec and mention in documentation for support of iv3. Tested here with iv3. Flawless on the files I have tested.
Mention was made at the time of iv4 and iv5 being an issue in relation to what you have stated regarding Xanim/Intel. This is still my current understanding regarding lack of support for these codecs within Frogger. Do you have any more on this issue?
As to the balance of the info you posted. Thanks. But it seems to further illustrate the problem regarding "across the board" support for codecs. WMV9/10 -may- fall into this category as well.
Best Wishes, #6 _________________ This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author. *Secrecy has served us so well*
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 27-Oct-2005 18:36:33
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| Thanks for the info. No I have not upgraded to the Update3. I don't have the time to mess around for days if something goes wrong, so I am waiting for Christmas for the final. I'll have more time to go to the dealer if there is a problem over Christmas. Right now the machine works and I am still loving it. I can watch my DVD's on our home theatre system. Can you PM me if your upgrade does the trick for you? Thanks, John Paul |
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 28-Oct-2005 1:07:36
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You are misinterpreting what I am saying.
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Apparently I did. Such a list of codecs and example files that use them would be a good idea. It might even be nice to have a program that would check A/V files and report their type. It would be even nicer if the inventors of all these codecs would include a method of checking the integrity of files incorporating said codecs without attempting to play them and failing. _________________ X1000 with 2GB memory & OS4.1FE
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 28-Oct-2005 1:15:38
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| Half hour ago, I registered DvPlayer.  _________________ --------- AmigaClyde
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 28-Oct-2005 2:16:50
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Quote:"It might even be nice to have a program that would check A/V files and report their type."
We have partial coverage here. Use Frogger(WOS) with verbose mode active and it will show a text output of the audio codec, video codec, etc.
Also MPlayer from the shell, as recommended in most of our testing also does this. The current problem with MPlayer, though, is that certain failed codecs also "grim". Not a problem if you are logging codec info, though. The shell outputs the recognition data -before- the A/V file is launched. So, even after the cases that produce a "grim", you can still see the info and take notes.
Frankly, since MPlayer is, IMO, more advanced (if I might use that term), I put a little more faith in the codec recognition it produces. Also, it is more -detailed- than with Frogger(WOS).
"Broken" files, as opposed to non-functioning or "broken" codecs is a different issue. I don't have an opinion on that except to say that I agree it should not bring down a system.
Best Wishes, #6 _________________ This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author. *Secrecy has served us so well*
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 28-Oct-2005 5:39:11
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| mencoder and ffmpeg should also do it, with ffmpeg you supply this line
ffmpeg -i file:'file name'
it will state that 'you need a output stream for bla. bla. bla' but it gives the file type and etc.
regarding newer froggerng, the author said that he should compile a 2.0.8 of his latest (last?) source, but this was quite some time ago so...
otherwise simply use AMP from amidog it's freeware, open-source and handles the xanim and Real codecs (don't remember if Real was working, or if it was WIP), but at least froggerng handles upto G2 Real format videos (it doesn't support the audio codecs). _________________ MicroSoft Game Studios == 
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 28-Oct-2005 9:09:54
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 28-Oct-2005 14:18:50
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| If you don't update, you're missing out on all the fun!
Yeah I know, but IF I run into problems then I would have to find the time to fix them and yes I know I would have lots of help. My life which is really busy got up'd a notch by a battle with a neighbour's dog kennel petitions and council meetings and phone calls to government officials. If I had extra time I would plant my two acres of garlic and get firewood in. My Christmas present will be installing the final. I'll have my fun then. Right now I have a machine that is soooo much better than the A3000 o40 I was using and it gets the job done. JOhn Paul |
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Re: DvPlayer 0.49 Released Posted on 28-Oct-2005 22:24:48
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| Received the registered version today and it rocks.  _________________ --------- AmigaClyde
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