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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 26-Jan-2009 18:32:39
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 26-Jan-2009 18:45:41
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| Cool!
But will the optimizations for Sam440 effect AmigaOne performance?
Will it lead to OS4.x AmigaOne and OS4.x Sam440 binaries being released? 
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 26-Jan-2009 19:04:18
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| Generally it is not recommended to compile specifically for 440ep processors, however, it might (and only might) make things like DVD playback work better on the SAM, for example.
We'll see. In general, I see no need to optimise for 440ep specifically.
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 26-Jan-2009 19:13:53
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| This new SDK contains an old version of SDI tools... |
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 26-Jan-2009 19:20:22
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| Thanks to all involved. 
Installed and tried - no problems
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 26-Jan-2009 20:14:18
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But will the optimizations for Sam440 effect AmigaOne performance?
Will it lead to OS4.x AmigaOne and OS4.x Sam440 binaries being released? |
Since compiling for 440 means GCC can use the special, extended intruction set of the 440EP which is not supported by other PowerPC chips, the 440-optimized binaries will probably not work on an A1. However, for most things the speedup is very minor (1-2% from my tests so far), so I don't think it's worth releasing 440 binaries for most things, except for some special, very speed-critical code, which can make heavy use of the extended instructions. |
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 26-Jan-2009 20:22:14
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What do the extended instructions do?
- An asm coder that wants to know
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 26-Jan-2009 21:20:33
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| Don't know a thing about software delevopement kit but an A1XE OS4,1 user here, waiting for Your software to try. Thank You, make my day. Only the Amigausers makes it possible now. |
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 26-Jan-2009 23:46:02
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| This new SDK contains an old version of SDI tools... |
I included the latest ones I got from the author.
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 0:25:20
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Me neither, but the coders are happy so I'm happy.
Cheers to all involved.
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 5:55:52
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| The "latest ones" (SDI_hook.h latest update 06.10.06) are on Yam svn, while the included ones are dated 2005 :) So if damato gives you these ones well... he is working too much ;) |
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 6:45:37
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| I haven't installed it yet here ... Does anyone can tell us what it contains ? What are the new features ? I suppose we can now create shared objects but what more ?
Thanks for the work done, much appreciated. After the news version of vbcc, it is a good news for developpers ! |
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 9:07:13
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| @Corto:
Cairo SDK is included, new DOS functions, new Graphics function, SDK for timezone.library... for example.
EDIT: I just did a quick diff between old and new Include and Autodoc dirs and I found that at least 328 files have changed so many improvements have been done I guess  Last edited by abalaban on 27-Jan-2009 at 09:22 AM.
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 10:00:16
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| I included the latest ones I got from the author. |
BTW, just FYI: also make is not the latest one (there is a new one on OS4Depot).
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 10:12:56
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| also make is not the latest one |
Again, I only include what I got from the respective authors.
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 11:41:34
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| Again, I only include what I got from the respective authors. |
That was clear
I just wanted to inform you.
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 12:49:00
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Im not a coder but i did some search and found this one. I hope its the same file your talking about.
$VER: SDI_hook.h 1.17 (14.07.2008) |
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 13:27:27
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 14:22:40
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| We'll see. In general, I see no need to optimise for 440ep specifically. |
What about crashes?
Quake3 runs at 1 frame per second. Like a real A1200.
UAE crashes.
Mainly things that crash but were fine on A1. |
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Re: New AmigaOS 4.1 SDK available
Posted on 27-Jan-2009 17:03:51
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If something crashes that has been compiled for PowerPC, the fix is not to enable 440ep optimisations, the fix is the fix the bug in the software.
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