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Software News   Software News : The MorphOS/MUI version of OWB 1.9 for AOS4 is released
   posted by kas1e on 1-Sep-2011 6:17:05 (17596 reads)
The MorphOS/MUI version of OWB 1.9 (now called Odyssey Web Browser) has just been released for OS4, you can grab it from os4depot upload section for now.

Please no need to saying "good work", "thanks" or anything like that while you not have aos4 to test that port, or you have, but just have no time to try it out. You should be sure that browser works for you, and you like it, before saing something like "good work" and all the other bananas. We will be more in interest to heard about problems and normal critic about port.

[b]You also should to understand that its _NOT_ amigaos4 browser , and we not authors. Author are Fab, and browser was done for Morphos, and only because Reaction OWB feature less, have problems, and no more in develop, we dedicated to port it. So, please, no boing-balls and other aos4-only-possible stuff


Now, after you download archive, be sure that:

1. You should have update3 installed, and all mui apps works for you already. You should be sure, that you use ONLY new classes which come with new MUI in update3. Its easy to mess things up, and everything will be crashy and buggy. So, the better way, its just one more time copy manually all the mui libs and classes from update3 archive to your mui directory. For example there is new Lamp class (68k one are buggy and crashy). So, be very carefull, and before saying "browser crashes and not works" , try to be sure that your mui installation 100% up2 date.

2. You should have some expirience with amiga like oses. I saying it, because many amigaos4 users looks like they first time run amigaos, and have milions of problems , which, they should not have. So, we expected that you are advanced user and can dig in yourself in some problems which can occurs at begining before screaming "it not works!".

3. Read all the readmes !
I know, it very hard and not interesting, and all of you will just double click on OWB-Launcher icon , but i still in hope that you will read all the readmes soon or later. There is 4:
1. main OWB readme (adapted to aos4 of course)
2. Amigaos_User readme - there you will found some users Q/A , which will be updated as well
3. Amigaos_Devel readme - there you will found some devels Q/A, which also will be updated.
4. Bugs_and_suggestions.html - VERY VERY important file, to which you need dig in before you will start to saying "please add that", or "please change that", or "that and that not works as should". In that file you will found about what we aware already, and, if your suggestion or problems are not listed here, then, send all the stuff for us and we will works on it as well.

First run are slow because font generation will happens. It will be only one time at first run

In end of all, i want to say thanks to:

Fab, who kindly give us the source to make a port, and help a lot with understanding his code , mui and everything related to. Its not so offten that morphos dev are kindly to aos4 devs, and help them to make amigaos4 a bit better.

Tboeckel (Thore) , who in general did _very very_ hard job in updating our mui3.9, to "almost" mui4, and he still works on it, so , we can expect better versions of mui in next updates. It will be never mui4, but it will be very-very close soon or later, so developers will do their code without problems.

Deniil from OnyxSoft, who do all the hardcore mui work and mui-bugs-hunting. Without him we also will have nothing.

Samo79 for his interest and betatest and to Realize who started a thread about "what you waiting for".

To all the others who help, and to all who saying that port is not possible and make no sense (that add a bit motivation as well).

So .. Test it, play with it, use it, collect bug reports, send it to us, try to be smart, try to be productive and try to not be fanatic of one OS, because only in cooperation something positive will happen here.

Of course bugs are present in our port, problem can happens, something not done, but we will see if you all will in interest about it , and if all will going well, we will port Plugins, Mediplayer, SwfDec parts as well as merging with latest Fabs code.
    

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Re: The MorphOS/MUI version of OWB 1.9 for AOS4 is released
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Hi,

Just to be sure... where we post bugs reports and things that need to be fix
to make the use of it easier?

Thank you

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@Pierre55

If its something which can't wait, you can send it to me at kas1e@yandex.ru , but if can wait, then i think that we need to create bug tracker of os4 version on the bugs.os4depot.net (as it was done for ra-owb, and was pretty fine to track down the stuff).


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Re: The MorphOS/MUI version of OWB 1.9 for AOS4 is released
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Yes i'm going to open a request for this, bugs.OS4Depot is the better place to report bugs


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Re: The MorphOS/MUI version of OWB 1.9 for AOS4 is released
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Hi there.

I have a first observation and small report.

1.) MUIOWB. What happened to Odyssey?
2.) Some icons like readmes are invalid. They are PNG files and not OS4 icons. Perhaps a transfer from MOS?

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Re: The MorphOS/MUI version of OWB 1.9 for AOS4 is released
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@Hypex

1 - Odyssey will be ported later if all goes well
2 - Yes they are the original MorphOS icons, you can use the PNG iconmodule from Tantignone to show them correctly under AmigaOS4

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Re: The MorphOS/MUI version of OWB 1.9 for AOS4 is released
Posted on 3-Sep-2011 16:35:19
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Thank you to everybody, really. Sofar no problems at all either on my A1 XE or on my SAM 440.
It is now my only browser : quick, solid, feature-rich, has almost everything I liked in IBrowse. I can copy the mime configurations of IBrowse, and lo, it opens my pdf directly in Apdf and so forth.
Short : I'm happy.

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Good work kas1e ;)


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@samo79

1. You mean there are two! Does that mean Timberwolf will have two competitors?

2. I used to have that module, an update must have killed it. But the other icons are fine and these icons in particular relate specificially to OS4 so I think they should be in Amiga format. Given that the rest of it runs out of the box perfectly fine so should the icons.

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Apdf and so forth.


Apdf! Is it that bad we need to go back to Apdf? Shikes! We need a new AmiPDF then.

It reminds me of a cross between OWB and IBrowse. But it takes ages to load. Makes SFS look slow on my system..

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@Hypex

PNG icons are *valid* icons as well.
As for loading taking ages, it's font indexing, and it only happens *once* (and it can be greatly accelerated if you add lots of buffers to the sys: partition, in this case).

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Hi,

I had this problem long long time ago (I think I was using OS3.1) with MUI programs, I don't know why but after a while using OWB my MUI fonts settings is corrupted.

See pictures...

Thank you.



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OK no bananas or OS4 specific stuff I promise I am not the least bit celebratory or
happy about this port to OS4 of a MOS browser........ aww, who am I kidding it's great
this will hold up things nicely till FireFox gets here cheers for your efforts.


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Hi,

I had this problem long long time ago (I think I was using OS3.1) with MUI programs, I don't know why but after a while using OWB my MUI fonts settings is corrupted.

See pictures...

Thank you.



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@kas1e

Hi,

I surelly can wait (I'm an Amiga user since 198? eheh

Just a comment about the bookmark parts (it's a pain to use).

I ask the author of OWBAddressBook to make it work with this version and I think something will be done shortly.

Bye!

Last edited by Pierre55 on 05-Sep-2011 at 02:58 AM.

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Quote:
Just a comment about the bookmark parts (it's a pain to use).


Err? A pain to use? Why? It's very similar to IBrowse.

(or maybe you mean the crash, but the fix is to be done in MUI OS4 itself then).

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lol, a pain to use? Even if you love the sidebar I'm sure you can get by using the menus and/or fastlinks for now. Personaly I prefer using the menu, feals very much like IBrowse and is easy to use.

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Err? A pain to use? Why? It's very similar to IBrowse.

(or maybe you mean the crash, but the fix is to be done in MUI OS4 its


I never use IBrowse but for OWB, yes it crash sometimes but when we want to move bookmarks to groups or change the order of the bookmarks it fails almost each times specialy if you want to move the bookmark far in the list.

Just by curiosity I tryed IBrowse and moving bookmarks works perfectly.

Bye!

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@Hypex

Quote:
1. You mean there are two! Does that mean Timberwolf will have two competitors?


No Odyssey isn't a new one, it's just the new name of the latest MUI OWB for MorphOS. just the name is changed but at the end it's the same browser


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Ok, well. A newer MUI will fix this, then.

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For a while now I've endured a display layout problem on this website's front page.

http://www.netweather.tv

The rest of the site displays absolutely perfectly, tried in Safari which is also Web-kit based and layout is correct as is FireFox etc...

Feel free to join the forum and post in the Amiga Banter thread I created.

Aside from the forum you can enjoy the veteran weather forecaster, Michael Fish's weekly online forecast.

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