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Software News   Software News : AEROS - Linux/AROS distro status update
   posted by phoenixkonsole on 1-Oct-2011 20:52:55 (7781 reads)
Hi,

AresOne and friends will get a new standard OS.
Actually i plan to have it done for christmas.

There are only a few quirks left. Nothing dramatic.



Status update:
Offers the same as Broadway 0.6 plus the following Linux apps:

Abiword
Pitivi
Ooffice Impress (found no alternative)
Ooffice Draw (well it installed it as part of Impress)
Inkscape
Gnumeric
Gimp (Gimpshop is to outdated)
Blender 2.49b
Chomium Browser has been updated
Wine
PearPC 0.5 well just want to try it later : )

Linux parts are all updated.. experimenting with Wifi now.

After this i need to include Linux-Prefs into the AROS side.

EDIT: added Midnight Commander

Since the AresOne comes with AmigaForever it will allow to have the virtual Amiga running in coherency mode. (Thanks to janusUAE).

So you will be able to run Linux-, AROS-, AmigaOS 3.x-, Windows-apps and more at the same time.


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Re: AEROS - Linux/AROS distro status update
Posted on 3-Oct-2011 21:32:52
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I think it's awesome! Best of both worlds until it all gets ported to AROS.

I do agree that all the black is not very "Amiga" looking. Is that easy to change Phoenix?

Seeing Blender run on AROS (even though it's hosted) is very cool! Have you done any render speed tests to compare it to regular Linux or Winblows?

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@phoenixkonsole
Please change the look of the Linux apps like they did in Amicignyx:





Otherwise it just look like an alien overlay coming from a video-mixer.


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@DAX

I'm not so sure that's a great idea. AFAIK, the Linux windows are overlaid on top of the entire AROS hosted display.

Assuming that's the case (it's not entirely clear, but getting tighter integration would be a *lot* more work), they won't obey the same window depth or screen changes etc., so they really *are* "alien" and not having clear visual cues to that effect would probably be really confusing to users.

Keep in mind this is a "hack" that pretty much has been achievable this quickly because AROS can run hosted under Linux as well as native. It's a good one, that might help some of us spend a lot more time in AROS, but it's still a hack.


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@phoenixkonsole

Are you trying for this bounty http://www.power2people.org/projects/profile/35


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I didn't know that this bounty exists.
About themes and icons... you can change everything.

But i like to have a visual difference between AROS and Linux.


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Quote:
But i like to have a visual difference between AROS and Linux.


And that's the big bad point. If you see a visual difference it looks too common patched. The majority don't like that. Nor me. So I share the opinion of DAX (posting #22).

Nevertheless I may be interesting for developers.

Last edited by DaFreak on 04-Oct-2011 at 05:26 PM.


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Well,
you can choose the same theme for both sides. But "I" do not prefer this.
Whatever:
AEROS is here to offer me more freedom of choice regarding HW.
I can go PPC, ARM, x64 without loosing functionality.

ARM and x64 AROS have not as much apps as x86 Version. So every gap can be filed by an Linux app. I don't need to wait for AROS drivers.. i can just use LInux.

Because of AMC and EMula i am looking to ARM and found a good playground done by Genesi.

A sub 100$ machine with AEROS + AMC + EMula and Amigaforever could be nice.

Than i like to finish things i have started.
AEROS allows me to work on several things at the same time.
AROS,
Corebios,
Supervizor,
Copy-protection,
PPC emulation,
agressive firewall (my new hobby)

AEROS targets:
Linux geeks (those for which Ubuntu is mainstream)
ARM users (Genesi, Nufront)
Will be one of two operating systems on the AresOne, Ares2 ...
Everyone who wan't to test or use AROS on unsupported HW.

If you scroll down here you will find HW which is waiting for beeing supported.
http://aresone.de/


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I think this is a worthy experiment and am very impressed by the vids. A lot of Amigans need to have a second, more mainstream OS to get the full range of apps that they desire. This seems like a nicer solution, because instead of firing up a different computer (or rebooting into a different OS), you can run those "other OS" apps in the same desktop environment. It's even cleaner than AmigaOS's AmiCygnix, where you have to go into a separate screen.

Aeros is not going to be for purists, but it's definitely a nice compromise to consider, because you can spend all your time in an Amigan desktop environment and still get a wide range of apps.

It's another option on the table, so bravo.


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@PHOENIXKONSOLE ,

Does that mean I can get the latest Genesei ARM Netbook, and have an Amiga Like Operating System, such as AROS running on it?

In Other words, Just to be Krystal Clear, AROS works on the ARM NetBook by Genesei which is selling for aorund $129 by memory?

Also, Is the AROS OS still Downloadable for free is it, or is it now considered sellable OS?

Thank you for your time!


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@Gebrochen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1oQVh5cjng&feature=related


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@ Terminills

Thanks for that, IM at work, so wont be able to view youtube til later tonight, but thus far im assuming its going to be AROS running on ARM netbook from genesei....

Awesome news!


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Yes it comes for Genesi's ARM systems.
AROS is free. AEROS for ARM may be not because i think about adding it as free gift to AMC and EMula and AmigaForever. In other words i am thinking about selling SD-cards.


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@vidarh
Ok, thanks for the detailed explanation.
I am accustomed to what I get in Amicygnix so I thought it was possible here as well. Thanks to the Picasso96PIP feature, Amicygnix can overlay the window contents (which have received an amiga treatment beforehand) inside Workbench windows, thus the "first impact" an end user might have, is that you are looking at a single environment (since such app runs alongside native apps, looks the same and you can set a shared clipboard).
Seems a better solution at the moment, but thinking about it, Edgar Schwan probably did a ton of work to make that happen.


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@DAX,

Yes, it's a lot more work. The upside is as you say more integration. The upside of the AEROS solution is that the Linux apps run in their own memory protected Linux processes and need no porting at all (including no recompilation). They both have their advantages. Of course neither is a substitute for a proper "native" port.


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I assume AEROS can take use of multicore systems as well. Am I right?
(example: linux apps use all cores, AROS apps use core0 or core1 ?)


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Hi,

yes Linux stuff can use everything.
OpenCL(nvidia) is there too.

AROS stays single core but you could run multiple AROS instances.
SO you could achieve something like spaces on OS X.

Or you could run Broadway, IcAROS, AspireOS at the same time.


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