Donation made.

As I see it I still use Magellan II most days under 68K either on my Classic Amiga or under Emulation so even if all we were to achieve was to make it freely re distributable for use on Amiga's, next generation FPGA Amiga's and AROS-m68k it would be money well spent.

If freeing up the sources code results in native ports to OS4, MorphOS and AROS, or enhancements to make the 68k executable run and support OS4 and PNG Icons etc,that would be even better

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My thoughts exactly.. 5600 euro could be used for an ex amiga programmer to come back on the scene to do some work on workbench or intution or something and incorporate all this into OS4.

How would this work? Would you expect those components to be open-sourced or an open-source Workbench/Intuition to be adopted. Otherwise it isn't a bounty, it's charity.

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Poster: Toaks Date: 2-Feb-2012 13:31:58 @retro yes thats one of the issues we will see (if there will be ports for all formats and if they will be the same SVN etc) i guess and thats why there should be set proper goals and not just "open" the source which will in the end lead into 5 diffrent branches or whatever....

The goal is to open source it nothing more. Don't like it don't donate simple as that.

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The goal is to open source it nothing more. Don't like it don't donate simple as that.

No. The real goal is to motivate people to donate so the DOpus can be open sourced. Do you think your "don't like it don't donate" motivated Toaks to donate?

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I agree.

While [still] waiting for new Amiga to arrive, I'll have to say that I heard about Filer and I guess this is what I need in AmigaOS. I remember that I couldn`t live without Dopus Magellan when I was on Amiga up to few years ago. AmigaOS [at least 3.9] was very limited and that makes me nervous. With Magellan - system was better than any PC or MAC.

But it is dated now... no support for new icons, no support for skins and dropshadows [at least those effects that exists in AmigaOS4+].

I would concentrate on some really needed programs like Word, Paint, Music, full supported browser... etc.

AmigaOS should have Drag&Drop from/to, doubleclick anywhere to open "MyComputer" [or lister], copy, paste as, quick rename, etc... All that had Magellan.

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But it is dated now... no support for new icons, no support for skins and dropshadows [at least those effects that exists in AmigaOS4+].

Well AROS has just got support for OS4 icons and OS3.5 icon support was added to Magellan in the past
so I am sure OS4 icon support can be added to Magellan in the future if we manage to get it open sourced with this bounty, the other features you mention I can happily live without

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My opinion is that spending bounty on Magellan2 is a waste of money

+1, DOpusII Magellan is an old software which was written when OS4 and MorphOS didn't exist... to bring it updated with all new features of each OSes will be too much time... When a piece of software like Ambient is opensource a bounty would be opened to bring Ambient (and so Zune) on all Amiga Oses... Ambient is a modern piece of software.

I dont understand why so many people are so against this. If youre not interested then dont donate. What's the problem? There's plenty of bounties I have no interest in,... never felt the urge to piss all over them though.

Yes, Dopus Mag2 is old, but compared to the alternatives in the amiga world, far from dated. It's more functional and advanced than pretty much anything else out there in amigaland. What it lacks would be a heck of a lot quicker to add than it would be to bring the alternatives up to par with it. The only exception being Ambient, which can trade blows with Dopus Mag2.

Or is there an alternative agenda the naysayers have that Im not getting?

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+1, DOpusII Magellan is an old software which was written when OS4 and MorphOS didn't exist... to bring it updated with all new features of each OSes will be too much time... When a piece of software like Ambient is opensource a bounty would be opened to bring Ambient (and so Zune) on all Amiga Oses... Ambient is a modern piece of software.

Aren`t Ambient and Zune GPL? Surely Ambient is nice WB alternative, more developed, and Zune is nice open source MUI replacement. Having them all for all flavours would help cross porting and mutual understanding.

Well, opening Dopus Magellan makes its further development possible, so even the goal is far from completition (16% summ gathered) its not unreachable. And nice Guru Meditation SE seems quite dead and lost the lincence, this seems to be the only way to have Directory Opus active development again.

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Aren`t Ambient and Zune GPL? Surely Ambient is nice WB alternative, more developed, and Zune is nice open source MUI replacement. Having them all for all flavours would help cross porting and mutual understanding.

Ambient cant run without MUI4 and Zune does not yet offer all the features required to run MUI3.8 applications yet and may still be a year or more away from that level and is probably 2 or more years away from offering current levels of MUI4 compatibility required to run Ambient going by the Amount of work and time that whent in to the development of MorphOS, Ambient and MUI4.

I still see a use/need for both, I hope to have the hardware to run MorphOS on in the future as well as running OS4(on my sam440ep), OS3.x on my A1200 & Minimig and AROS on my netbook.

They are all good and I feel no need to chose one over the others as I have always been a big believer in using the right tool for the job I am typing this from my mac book (a very nice laptop), but I have no plans to give up my Windows 7 ThinkPad I use you business either.

I like all the desktop OS's I use and the server OS's I uses as well, they all have their strong points and areas for improvement.

For me the 3 best GUI file management tools are DOPUS on the Amiga, DOPUS for Windows and midnight commander, but i am always open to finding new tools to let me work and play.

I also feel having more options is always a good think when it comes to software and computer hardware.

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why spending on software that I used [in past] as replacement for AmigaOS when we can have AmigaOS to look like Magellan2?

It's not about the look, which is worse in Mag II compared to anything above OS3.1 anyway. It's what it can do, and how increadibly easy you can do it compared to DOpus4 or WB. Configuring scripts and hotkey to do common things.

Tried filer a bit but I found it awkward switching source/destination. I really need to give it another go since it has been updated a lot since I tried last. But I much prefer a file manager on a separate screen where I can have a number or permanently (saved in prefs) opened listers and where hotkeys are global on the screen. DOpus let's me do that, but the ugly look and limitation to two static listers in DOpus4 is getting on my nerves every day.

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Why does everyone seem to think that the only thing Magellan could do was to replace WB??!? DirOpus is a file manager, not a desktop.

I would never dream of replacing WB 4.1 with old Magellan, but I would love to replace DOpus4 with Magellan since it's lightyears ahead of DOpus4 from the 80's. Using it on a screen of it's own not only frees up WB from lister clutter, but also kind of gives you a second "WB" screen.

Always having a number of listers open, which defaults to key directories at boot, such a Downloads/ and RAM: etc., and with all F-keys assigned to different often used directories makes it a breeze to browse around the system. This double-clicking in WB to open a lister is just annoying because you always end up some default place and need to navigate all the way. Then you have to close it to not clutter the WB screen.

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Ambient cant run without MUI4 and Zune does not yet offer all the features required to run MUI3.8 applications yet and may still be a year or more away from that level and is probably 2 or more years away from offering current levels of MUI4 compatibility required to run Ambient going by the Amount of work and time that whent in to the development of MorphOS, Ambient and MUI4.

To be honest, unavail of MUI 4 for all quite surprised me (must be MUI maker became MOS only fan, os MOS developed it) as MUI was very open during all time of its development. Expected it to become so, and seeing some kind of revamped MUI 3.9 is done by Hyperion to help MOSOS4 porting, wonder does anyone but MOS team and Hyperion develop MUI?
Then there is no benefit of open Ambient (at least not benefit for others then MOS)
if MUI4 is not open.

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@djnick Quote: why spending on software that I used [in past] as replacement for AmigaOS when we can have AmigaOS to look like Magellan2?

To be honest, never liked Magellan as complete WB replacement (there were other tools like MagicWB or ScalOS, some even less demanding). To me, it was best file manager, an way improved Dopus 4, and in that light I like to see it. And yes, WB quite advanced, so question is this "feature" needed much now.

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