@ RodTerl

Radeon HD's instruction set are not based on ARM i.e. it's a custom instruction set. AMD Radeon HD 7750 to 7970 Ghz Edition started to include some X86-64 CPU IP i.e. mostly for memory operations.

Radeon HD 7750 to 7970 Ghz Edition has 64bit DP FP support.

Only Radeon HD 7950/7970/7970GE (Tahiti Pro/XT/XT2) has practical 64bit DP FP support, the other 77x0/78x0 has gimped support for 64bit DP FP.

Radeon HD 5850/5870 and 6950/6970/6990 has practical 64bit DP FP support.

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@Phantom

That hasn't been decided yet. All efforts have been concentrated on the new RadeonHD driver.

@SOFISTISOFTWARE

A-EON will email you the download details before July 9th.

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Well the fact these drivers exist and are being worked on is encouraging in any case but wouldn`t they be orphaned by Gallium?

No, they will be needed for gallium 3D.

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@djrikki

Any problems with the driver, report it on the AmigaOS forums to diagnose the cause. I havent experienced stuttering on video playback on my personal SAM460ex.

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@djrikki

On hans website there is a post how version 0.32 has full 2D for sam460

What has hans stated that is missing from the 2D driver?

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As I understand it A-Eon Technology = AmigaKit (edit) now. As you have taken over funding from Acube for development of the Radeon HD 4650 (listed above) it is only right to expect that you continue supporting the AmigaOne 500/SAM460 which I bought from AmigaKit/(now)A-Eon Technology.

Cmon don't give me that - try playing a video full-screen, I don't wanna watch video playing in a small window just because the frame rate cannot keep up with the sound.

Will Gallium speed up video playback? If you don't know the answer, please say so.

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No, sorry, I think there is some misunderstanding here. AmigaKit is a separate legal company to A-EON Technology Ltd.

AmigaKit is a proud official reseller of A-Cube and A-EON- both are our trading partners. AmigaKit is not a developer of the products that either manufacture. AmigaKit continues to sell all AmigaOS 4 hardware and software including the SAM460ex.

Regarding video playback, I watch full-screen videos on my SAM460ex with satisfaction but there maybe other factors at play if you experience lag. Not sure that Gallium 3D will have any bearing on that?

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@djrikki

A-EON has already funded most of the RadeonHD graphic driver development work and will continue to provide drivers free of charge for its customers (which is built into the price of the hardware).

Owners of Sam460 and AmigaOne 500 can either contact ACube for support or have the option of purchasing updated drivers from A-EON for the newer graphics cards.

TrevorD

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@djrikki

to speed up the video playback on slow cpu machine we need to add the "Overlay" feature in the current RadenHD driver, but as Hans has already said that is not a priority because the 3D is more important, without the overlay feature tha main cpu has to do a lot work for some convertions, a possibility is support the "compositing feature" in the video players but probably it can't help much because nobody has tried to add that function, i hope this kind of bounty can bring the overlay too and have the 3D soon.

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No, sorry, I think there is some misunderstanding here. AmigaKit is a separate legal company to A-EON Technology Ltd.

But the directors of both companies are the same/very close are they not?

@SOFISTISOFTWARE

Thanks, hence the current driver is not complete.

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@ TrevorDick

That gives me the impression that every new update regarding drivers for everything in the future (gfx, sound etc) for A-EON customers will be free of charge, or is this going to change in the near future?

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djrikki

Just to clarify, I am not a director of AmigaKit and have no owership in that company.

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Hang on, no overlay? Acube has to terminate free updates and the final free version of the driver doesn`t even support overlay!?

I`m afraid that is actually taking the mickey just a little bit.

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@Phantom

Yes, costs will be built into the price of the hardware, if at all possible.

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@ TrevorDick

That sounds perfect, considering the price of the X1000 computer, and the best way to invest customers' money into use.

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@djrikki

a software or a driver is never complete, the current RadeonHD version in my opinion is almost complete, it can be daily used, it needs to add something and bugfix something else. The Overlay is a feature but it isn't so necessary for a daily use, while the 3D is a complex part and it must be developed togheter the operating system. We can ask to or better convince Aeon or directly Hans to focus on Overlay, but i don't think we can convice him because he said a lot of time he isn't interested to that feature and his efforts must be focused on 3D resource.

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Recuperate isn't a transitive verb. I'd pay the money if 3D support is included. Maybe. Or I'd do without. I'm getting used to that.

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Customers who own an AmigaOne X1000 First Contact system will receive drivers free of charge. Non=A-EON customers can order the drivers here: http://www.a-eon.com/?page=radeonhd

I assume us SAM460 owners will get the new HD drivers for free? Or at least 3D support as promissed?

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Far be it for me to tell others how to run thier business, but perhaps owners of Sam460 hardware could get a version of the drivers with complete functionality as the driver progresses, but with a much more limited pci id list (ie. no support for anything beyond radeon 4/5xxx). Seems the easier way to do things (no need to maintain multiple versions of the drivers this way, and people who have already spent good money on a sam460 wont feel so conned).

Does seem a little harsh to just out of nowhere, without warning to cut off support for a machine people paid good money for unless they want to pay even more money, just because there's another new machine.

What happens when/if the successor arrives with (hypothetical) support for pci express 3.0 or later and its the only machine capable of running certain video cards? Or if there's another mid range machine that comes along? Does OS4.x hardware start competing against itself in regards to supported hardware? For a project whose resources are more than stretched already this seems a potentially iffy path to take.

Also, what happens when gallium support is done and "merged" with current 2d drivers? Do all RadeonHD users other than x1000 owners have to shell out for a new driver?