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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 8:33:47
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Oh so it's not completely true.. So we WILL see µA1-C after all? Why? When Amy'05 comes who would want an µA1-C? I will NEVER again buy anything that has a MAI chip sitting on the motherboard that much I can tell you. It's performance is.. Well it SUCKS!
Just getting rid of the VIA686B will be a dream.. And also Articia S at the same time.. It's almost a magic board If it had some sort of real graphics bus I would have bought this board the minute it was released. _________________ /Harry
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 8:51:33
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| Maybe they can fix the desktop "shortcomings" for the next model motherboard?
* CPU socket preferably MAC compatible MEGArray sockets so we can use their turbocards. Delivered without a CPU card, cheaper if we buy from a mac turbo card maker. * include a 2ch SATA onboard also. * full size ATX or mATX with 2-3 PCI-E and 2-3 PCI for expandability. * TSI108 for higher FSB speed (200MHz) and much higher total speed. And DDR memory..
This and keeping the rest of the components would make for DREAM machine, for me atleast. Last edited by Samwel on 25-Sep-2005 at 09:04 AM.
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 9:12:04
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Is the difficult part that PegasosII have Smart Firmware and not UBOOT or? |
No, for the 100th time. Neither the classic nor the Mystery Device use U-Boot, and you can still boot OS 4 on these. Adding an OF loader would be trivial.
The plain and simple truth (as has also been pointed out before) is that there is no license for the Pegasos II, and as long as there is none, nothing is going to happen.
Can we return to the topic again now? _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 9:28:44
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Maybe it would be easier to understand if AW.net had big window open everytime people log on here where it said "OS4 can load under any BIOS if support for it is added, NP really!" Last edited by Samwel on 25-Sep-2005 at 09:29 AM.
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 9:58:15
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 10:04:36
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I think he thought you were talking about your own motherboard project, and were referring to it as 'Your Amigaone', rather than the actual amigaone you purchased from Eyetech. _________________ Peter Swallow. A1XEG3-800 [IBM 750FX PowerPC], running OS4.1FE, using ac97 onboard sound.
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 10:44:56
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"The plain and simple truth (as has also been pointed out before) is that there is no license for the Pegasos II, and as long as there is none, nothing is going to happen."
But is there a license for the Troika board? Or for the "mystery device"..? _________________ My programs: via.bckrs.de MorphOS user since V0.4 (2001)
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 10:54:59
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But is there a license for the Troika board? |
I don't know. I propose you ask the Troika people.
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Or for the "mystery device"..? |
You seem to misinterpret what the mystery device is. It is not for sale and it is most likely not going to be for sale any time soon. It was a technology sample, a proof-of-concept, not a product. An interesting techology sample for sure, and I think it's safe to say you would be surprised if you saw it.
I'm afraid that is all I can say about the topic. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 11:05:53
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>You seem to misinterpret what the mystery device is. It is not for sale and it is most likely not going to be for sale any time soon. It was a technology sample, a proof-of-concept, not a product. An interesting techology sample for sure, and I think it's safe to say you would be surprised if you saw it.
Yes surprised... I believe you ! But do you think the majority of us would want and buy it ? Or is it mainly interesting for non Amiga users ? (This is a serious question)
>I'm afraid that is all I can say about the topic.
You know you are killing us !
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Martin
ps, can we begin counting down till christmas ? _________________ Theres a time to live and a time to die When its time to meet the maker Theres a time to live but isnt it strange That as soon as you're born you're dying
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 11:10:07
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I think it's safe to say that Christmas will come, yes. Or did you mean something else? _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean.
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 11:24:50
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Was this comment meant for me? I hope not because I'm a µA1-C owner that in time has noticed the performance of these chips. Also several devs are not really happy with the A1 hardware so..
Maybe not exactly on topic but comparing µA1-C and Amy isn't really that far off is it? _________________ /Harry
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 11:41:37
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>I think it's safe to say that Christmas will come, yes.
I wouldn't count on it...
Martin _________________ Theres a time to live and a time to die When its time to meet the maker Theres a time to live but isnt it strange That as soon as you're born you're dying
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 12:28:28
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We should clench our teeth and wait for that Cell based motherboard (I didn't actually read what it was supposed to be) that's supposed to come out next year, I think from Toshiba..... |
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 14:42:23
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| > Neither the classic nor the Mystery Device use U-Boot, and you can still boot > OS 4 on these.
> The plain and simple truth (as has also been pointed out before) is that > there is no license for the Pegasos II, and as long as there is none, nothing > is going to happen.
So now, what makes me wonder is why does this not apply to the mystery device and apparently AHT (edited out) devices?
What is Amiga Inc. thinking of all this? Last edited by victim on 25-Sep-2005 at 02:45 PM.
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 14:50:28
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 15:13:03
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 15:13:46
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 15:18:58
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You seem to misinterpret what the mystery device is. It is not for sale and it is most likely not going to be for sale any time soon. It was a technology sample, a proof-of-concept, not a product. An interesting techology sample for sure, and I think it's safe to say you would be surprised if you saw it. |
Well, I cannot say that I'm really suprised by that. It really is a different statement than those we have been hearing by others on this board who claim to know what it is, and also claim that it "will save us all". I think they are just lost in self-importance. So it's gone from the next big thing that will save us to "only a technology proof of concept sample", which may or may not ever even see the light of day since it's not even a product.
It's sounding more like another Nokia or Sharp to me. I would venture a guess that's why we've not heard all of the great shouting from the rooftops that was said to be coming last year. |
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 17:39:54
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We should clench our teeth and wait for that Cell based motherboard (I didn't actually read what it was supposed to be) that's supposed to come out next year, I think from Toshiba..... |
You mean this ?
It's not a 'end user' product, it's a developer/reference board...think $$$$$$$ just like the Teron reference boards from MAI. Now relax before you get lockjaw. _________________
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Re: Guru Meditation and Troika join forces Posted on 25-Sep-2005 18:54:10
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