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Miscellaneous News   Miscellaneous News : Amiga games for N-gage?
   posted by ikir on 18-Dec-2003 12:26:07 (2377 reads)
AmigaWorld.org (former Amitopia) Magazine has started a project, getting Amiga games for this new handheld device from Nokia.

We do this, because Nokia is strong in Europe, so is Amiga, and if we can work out something tougether, it would give both something. With AmigaOS v4.0 nearing its release day by day, Amiga games for N-Gage could have AmigaOS v4.0 promotions and more. Giving Nokia N-Gage people and others a sign that Amiga is alive. Because we have to start the marketing somewhere, then this is a great way to start it all... Or?

This new handheld device from Nokia is not just a gaming console, it also have video player, mp3 player, FM tuner and a suberb OS,... The SymbianOS

So, now its time for you to vote on what sort of Amiga gaming packs you would have:

#1: Amiga Gaming Alien pack, All of the Alien Breed games
#2: Amiga Gaming Fun pack, All of the platform games, like Superfrog, Zool, Giana Sisters +++
#3: Amiga Gaming Racing pack, Lotus Triology, OutRun, Stuntcar Racer, Skidmarks etc+++

Please vote, and check out http://www.amigaworld.org/N-Gage.html
from 03.01.2004 for updates.

Vote, so we know whats popular to get first for N-Gage, ... You vote for everyone of the packs, with the first pack wich you think is the best as the first one, like this:

#2
#3
#1

That means that #2 have highest priority, then #3 and then #1

Send your Vote Mail with topic: N-Gage and Amiga
Send this mail to: mberg@broadpark.no

Your comments for what sort of Amiga games should be, and more will also be posted on http://www.amigaworld.org/N-Gage.html

Regards,
Michal, www.amigaworld.org
    

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Re: Amiga games for N-gage?
Posted on 18-Dec-2003 14:27:07
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Should this device not be able to run AA without probs??? - I mean what kind of processor does it have?

If it's on the AA processor list, then by all means it should be ready for a massive AA-Attack

AMIGA ANYWHERE.......now's the time to prove that phrase


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Re: Amiga games for N-gage?
Posted on 18-Dec-2003 14:54:49
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N-Gage uses the symbian OS (Series 60)

but... N-Gage is already one of the biggest failure's that nokia has ever made... even the big Chief states that... the sales are awful (to put it politely), the games runs extremly poorly (Tomb raider isn't a game... it's a slideshow)

the sales are extremly bad...

in the UK ... 800
in the US ... 5 000

instead focus to get them on something that actually can play games rather nicely...
Palm's Tungsten T3, for instance (I'm currently playing The Dig on my T3).


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Re: Amiga games for N-gage?
Posted on 18-Dec-2003 15:13:22
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Nokia is strong in the whole world, not just Europe :)

"This new handheld device from Nokia is not just a gaming console,"

Yep it's a mobilephone + handheld gameconsole with video and mp3 players. Ofcource it's mainly aimed for the people who play a lot.

But anyway it would be great to get Amiga games for N-Gage :) It just is not that easy and simple, you have to convince Nokia first.

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Re: Amiga games for N-gage?
Posted on 18-Dec-2003 15:29:11
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That's not quite true. I don't know current numbers but N-Gage did sell quite ok when it was last time talked in the news here in the Finland. It could ofcource sell better :) Anyway N-Gage sells quite ok I think, but the problem is that lot's of people seem to rather download free games than buying commercial games.

I don't know about Tomb Raider, but I was in the N-Gage pre-release show held during Assembly'03 and I did play some of the games which did run quite well. I'm not any big fan of handheld gameconsoles though. Biggest problem was that sun was shining too much and it was difficult to see that screen :) But GBA screen is not any better, even worse I think.

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Re: Amiga games for N-gage?
Posted on 18-Dec-2003 17:57:09
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I've never actually heard anyone with anything good to say about that "console". The latest review I read gave it 2 out of 10 or something saying that it was worthless as a gaming console and worthless as a phone.

I've only seen it once in a shop (I don't know anyone who's bought it) and I wasn't really impressed. Tomb Raider was on and it must have been running at 0.5 FPS or something


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Re: Amiga games for N-gage?
Posted on 18-Dec-2003 18:29:43
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"the sales are extremly bad...

in the UK ... 800
in the US ... 5 000 "

Could you please provide a source for that statement?
If you are correct, then according to my sources sales in Denmark should be (MUCH) better than in UK???


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Re: Amiga games for N-gage?
Posted on 18-Dec-2003 20:33:08
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Those numbers are estimates for just the first week of sales I think. Here are some sources: 1, 2

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Re: Amiga games for N-gage?
Posted on 18-Dec-2003 21:57:19
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I'd love to see all of the Amiga games ported to the N-Gage, but I have a concern with the recent wave of porting efforts. I'm worried about scaring off companies that may port their products. Many of the companies being contacted are quite large and would only be happy with huge sale volumes. I simply cannot see Amiga at this point generating those kinds of sales. On many of the message forums I see posts that mention people are saving up for their AmigaOne, I'm wondering how much extra they're going to have to spend right away after purchasing it.

I realize that the N-Gage wouldn't exactly fit into this model, but I would think that the Amiga games would mainly attract Amiga fans. I don't think that even the classics would attract too many kids simply because they've never heard of the game before and it doesn't have any star names attached to it. For those that don't have N-Gage's after buying an A1 I would wonder how many would have enough extra cash left.

I think that the first order of business should be supporting those companies who have managed to stick by Amiga through the lean times. Once they become healthy other companies will take notice and come to Amiga on their own.

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Posted on 18-Dec-2003 22:01:38
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Re: Amiga games for N-gage?
Posted on 18-Dec-2003 23:26:58
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Ok, I must say that I fail to get the idea of this project.

If we are talking about "doing something for the Amiga" then IMHO all programming efforts are better spend on native OS4 applications. Ok I agree that they wouldnt get the Amiga brand recognised as much as Amiga games for a Nokia phone, but I know what is most important ATM (native OS4 software).

If we knew more about Amiga Incs plans and status, such a project could maybe even have been done using AmigaDE (meaning it would also run on OS4.x).
But the uncertain future of Amiga and lack of supported AA/DE platforms makes that a bad decission IMHO.

Would be nice if Fleecy could give us a status for AA/DE on Symbian and a little about the future plans (if any..?)...


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I think this is something to start from, I haven't seen any AmigaOS advertisment, at least in my country, and I think that promoting OS4 somehow, using the old Amiga hits on a new generationg handeld console, is a good chance.

Anyway my favourite pack would be the platform one


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Posted on 19-Dec-2003 11:30:45
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It might require some Amiga spirit to make games run smoothly on n-gage and not just because there (surely) are some ex amiga demo coders behind n-gage system SW ...


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Posted on 19-Dec-2003 20:11:30
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Alien Breed is an n-gage game if your write it for n-gage.

You don't have the right to use the Amiga trademark, it won't be obvious it used to run on Amiga, it won't be clear to anyone that this means something about OS 4.

Worse, all the old games may make Amiga look quite bad, even if you could somehow force the obscure connection.

secondly, nokia isn't forcing anyone to do signatures to write a game... developing games for Nokia is a simple straightforward well documented process.

If you want to do something, get permission from Amiga to use their trademark, get permission from the copyright owners to use their game ideas, and then write a game.

Quite frankly... these types of polls don't make a lot of sense, and seem to be based on a niave idea that all of everything works on a democratic basis...it doesn't. You want a game, go write it, no one is stopping you and you don't have to have a poll to act.

Just do it.

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