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Re: New software development system Posted on 26-Apr-2004 18:41:33
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| Looks good, would be excelent to have a decent IDE for the Miggy. However why choose a new progamming language? Why not stick with C(++) that everyone knows? Will you be providing examples/tutorials to help people learn or move over to this new language? _________________
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Re: New software development system Posted on 26-Apr-2004 20:04:28
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| Would be interesting to know a little bit more, like will you be able to use the IDE for other languages than your own? The Amiga is lacking a good IDE, and your product could fill that space.
Would really love it if there could be a FAQ put up or something that covers the most common questions. _________________ It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena." Theodore Roosevelt, speech in Paris, 1910
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Re: New software development system Posted on 26-Apr-2004 21:10:15
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| Yes the amiga needs a decent IDE _________________
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Re: New software development system Posted on 26-Apr-2004 22:03:45
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| Looks like a mix of c# and vb, so probobly easier to learn than C++.
As the C# compiler source is downloadable it would be great to have a native C# port and a Amiga framework. I have coded a lot of languages and thing C# 2.0 is rather good.
C++ and assembler are really powerful languages but can sometimes espicially for beginners be a bit tricky. If your going to develop someting rapid and with high quality you need an good IDE and good debugging tools.
An OO language like C# with an good IDE would be great for developing office/company programs where flow, model and felxibility is more important than speed and power.
Will keep an on this new language and hope it will be really good, hope it has good reflection possibilities.
/Mattias _________________ /AmigaRulez AmigaOne Hardware Guide
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Re: New software development system Posted on 26-Apr-2004 22:27:53
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| If it is a complete language and has the speed of C++ then I can see a lot of programmers being very interested in this - myself included.
What is it called? _________________ Sam
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Re: New software development system Posted on 27-Apr-2004 0:24:55
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Re: New software development system Posted on 27-Apr-2004 0:29:07
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| Hey, nice! Looks almost identical to Java, which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned. 
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Re: New software development system Posted on 27-Apr-2004 1:25:27
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| YEAH!!!
Very good, i'm a fnd of Java programming and this looks good :))) OOP rulezzz!!!
Continue to develop it!!! _________________ Download FroGGui and my tracks here
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Re: New software development system Posted on 27-Apr-2004 4:35:55
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| Cool... another obscure Amiga programming language or will it grow like E?
Edit: I wonder if this tool is self hosting or if they used GCC/StormC. Edit: I wonder what build tools it has (make, etc) |
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Re: New software development system Posted on 27-Apr-2004 6:56:06
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| That's such a great news, hearing that someone is working on a programming suite for our favourite OS, shows that someone's caring about improving the status and this could help who's not so confident to GCC ( I know someone who's not) and wants a new language to work on easy like C#. I hope they'll add a good IDE soon. Keep up the good work guys!!  _________________ The Heavy Metal Crew, a new metal community online!!!
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Re: New software development system Posted on 27-Apr-2004 7:12:13
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this could help who's not so confident to GCC ( I know someone who's not) |
Any particular aspect of GCC?
I've never had a problem with GCC creating incorrect code on x86. On m68hc12-gcc, now that's a different story... turn on optimisation and things can get really wierd. Although, m68hc12-gcc isn't officially part of GNU GCC.
Sometimes CC and LD silently ignore directives/options/link scripts I've given them, but not entirely without reason (I just wish it would say something like "you stupid n00b, default system linker script sections are overriding parts of your custom linker script"). But hey, that's what readelf and objdump ASM dissassembly is for right? 
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Re: New software development system Posted on 27-Apr-2004 14:24:40
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| Oh well, the same person I mentioned above just complained about this new dev suite, he's weird man. He said, why a new programming language when there's already C++? I think it's nice to have a "total" new one, and by the way it looks very easy like C#...
If someone ports something from other platforms to Amiga then someone complains because it's nothing new and it's not "Amiga Original".
if someone starts up a new project with a "new" programming language, the same people that complained before act the same way saying: "There's already standard and similar stuff on the scene".
Bah.. _________________ The Heavy Metal Crew, a new metal community online!!!
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Re: New software development system Posted on 27-Apr-2004 17:51:27
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| Will there be enough documentation? I'd love to dig into a new programming language!
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Re: New software development system Posted on 28-Apr-2004 8:59:46
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| We are happy you like our product. We will prepare FAQ soon. |
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Re: New software development system Posted on 30-Apr-2004 9:04:08
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| Looks really somewhat like Java. But I don't like the capital letters at the beginning of a method's name. I'd rather stick to Sun's style using capital letters only for classes. The coding style you chose is M$'s and they are pretty often away from open standards. Except to this, your language seems to work fine. I prefer waiting for jamiga becoming stable and useful. So I'll have to code only once to make my apps run on many systems. |
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Re: New software development system Posted on 30-Apr-2004 14:09:01
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Please, not that nightmare!!! Java and Java again!! This company did the right move!
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AmigaOne G3-SE, OS4 Final (July 2007 update), Debian Sarge, 512 MB RAM, 20 + 80 GB hard disks, NEC 3540 DVD writer, LG DVD reader, Radeon 9250, SB Live, Intracom Netfaster router, PCI USB card (NEC - OHCI/EHCI)
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Re: New software development system Posted on 1-May-2004 2:37:44
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| Looks like Java, which is a good thing. But I have to agree with siciliano. M$ syntax feels like an imature replica to me. |
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