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Software News   Software News : New software development system
   posted by ecl on 26-Apr-2004 18:28:44 (3376 reads)
On our website you can find initial informations about a new software development system for AmigaOS we are working on.
    

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Re: New software development system
Posted on 26-Apr-2004 18:41:33
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Looks good, would be excelent to have a decent IDE for the Miggy. However why choose a new progamming language? Why not stick with C(++) that everyone knows? Will you be providing examples/tutorials to help people learn or move over to this new language?


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Re: New software development system
Posted on 26-Apr-2004 20:04:28
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Would be interesting to know a little bit more, like will you be able to use the IDE for other languages than your own? The Amiga is lacking a good IDE, and your product could fill that space.

Would really love it if there could be a FAQ put up or something that covers the most common questions.


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Yes the amiga needs a decent IDE


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Looks like a mix of c# and vb, so probobly easier to learn than C++.

As the C# compiler source is downloadable it would be great to have a native C# port and a Amiga framework. I have coded a lot of languages and thing C# 2.0 is rather good.

C++ and assembler are really powerful languages but can sometimes espicially for beginners be a bit tricky. If your going to develop someting rapid and with high quality you need an good IDE and good debugging tools.

An OO language like C# with an good IDE would be great for developing office/company programs where flow, model and felxibility is more important than speed and power.

Will keep an on this new language and hope it will be really good, hope it has good reflection possibilities.

/Mattias


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If it is a complete language and has the speed of C++ then I can see a lot of programmers being very interested in this - myself included.

What is it called?


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Re: New software development system
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WOW!!!!!

I love it! Any need for beta testers out there??? How about OS4 support? I can give it a test run on A1/OS4!


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Hey, nice! Looks almost identical to Java, which is a good thing as far as I'm concerned.

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YEAH!!!

Very good, i'm a fnd of Java programming and this looks good :)))
OOP rulezzz!!!

Continue to develop it!!!


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Cool... another obscure Amiga programming language or will it grow like E?

Edit: I wonder if this tool is self hosting or if they used GCC/StormC.
Edit: I wonder what build tools it has (make, etc)

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That's such a great news, hearing that someone is working on a programming suite for our favourite OS, shows that someone's caring about improving the status and this could help who's not so confident to GCC ( I know someone who's not) and wants a new language to work on easy like C#. I hope they'll add a good IDE soon.
Keep up the good work guys!!


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this could help who's not so confident to GCC ( I know someone who's not)


Any particular aspect of GCC?

I've never had a problem with GCC creating incorrect code on x86. On m68hc12-gcc, now that's a different story... turn on optimisation and things can get really wierd. Although, m68hc12-gcc isn't officially part of GNU GCC.

Sometimes CC and LD silently ignore directives/options/link scripts I've given them, but not entirely without reason (I just wish it would say something like "you stupid n00b, default system linker script sections are overriding parts of your custom linker script"). But hey, that's what readelf and objdump ASM dissassembly is for right?

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Oh well, the same person I mentioned above just complained about this new dev suite, he's weird man. He said, why a new programming language when there's already C++? I think it's nice to have a "total" new one, and by the way it looks very easy like C#...

If someone ports something from other platforms to Amiga then someone complains because it's nothing new and it's not "Amiga Original".

if someone starts up a new project with a "new" programming language, the same people that complained before act the same way saying: "There's already standard and similar stuff on the scene".

Bah..


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Will there be enough documentation? I'd love to dig into a new programming language!

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We are happy you like our product. We will prepare FAQ soon.

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Looks really somewhat like Java. But I don't like the capital letters at the beginning of a method's name. I'd rather stick to Sun's style using capital letters only for classes. The coding style you chose is M$'s and they are pretty often away from open standards.
Except to this, your language seems to work fine.
I prefer waiting for jamiga becoming stable and useful. So I'll have to code only once to make my apps run on many systems.

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Why not stick with C(++)


NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Please, not that nightmare!!! Java and Java again!! This company did the right move!

Quote:
...that everyone knows?


?!?! "Everyone"??


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Looks like Java, which is a good thing. But I have to agree with siciliano. M$ syntax feels like an imature replica to me.

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