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Software News   Software News : GoldED, microgolded updated (C/C++ IDE and editor)
   posted by dietmar on 16-Aug-2004 1:41:20 (2972 reads)
GoldED Studio AIX, C/C++ IDE and editor for AmigaOS and MorphOS, has been updated.

Service pack 20

SP20 provides bugfixes, improves compatibility with the OS4 pre-release and implements several new features, such as Lisp scripting support and a text selector pop-up (screenshot). A 30-day trial version of microgolded and a demo of GoldED AIX can be downloaded on the author's web site.

GoldED forum opened

An official support forum for GoldED has been opened.
    

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Samwel 
Re: GoldED, microgolded updated (C/C++ IDE and editor)
Posted on 16-Aug-2004 5:26:44
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So when will there be an native OS4 version?

Actually I think GoldEd's interface looks terrible..
I really hope we will see a more standardized GUI in the
future (probably not as it has had it's own GUI for years).

If it's a problem with handling different sources then
make the GUI with MUI.. All supported OS's have MUI!

Otherwise one heck of an IDE for Amiga


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Actually I think GoldEd's interface looks terrible.. I really hope we will see a more standardized GUI


You might be able to configure it to meet your taste with the provided configuration options. After installation, the interface is pretty standard (resizable gadtools look).

As to MUI, that was not used because it was a shareware toolkit and I don't find shareware components in a commercial application acceptable. There are other reasons: Access to the source code, stability, performance, more.

If wxwindows is ever ported to the Amiga, I'll adjust GoldED to use that. Don't expect GoldED to be moved to any Amiga-only toolkit. Porting between Amiga toolkits is an elaborate way to waste time. Each gets the job done, each is hated by some. Time is better spent on features.

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So when will there be an native OS4 version?


A PPC version of a program like GoldED (no CPU-intensive calculations) would not make much sense in terms of performance: every OS function called by GoldED is PPC-native anyway and on top of that, GoldED itself is compiled into PPC code by the OS. While that is not as efficient as compilation into PPC code by gcc, it hardly matters because 90% of execution time is spent in OS functions. To give you an idea of the speed, on a Pegasos 600MHz, GoldED can scroll through ten thousand lines in about a second with full syntax highlihgting.

Since PPC compilation wouldn't have a noticable effect on performance, I prefer to release one binary that runs accross platforms rather than making a different version for each user group.

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Am I the only one to think an IDE is much more than what GoldED offers ?


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Posted on 16-Aug-2004 12:33:03
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Am I the only one to think an IDE is much more than what GoldED offers ?

You may have a point there but currently GoldED is the most advanced programmer's tool available. There are people trying to develop an IDE that would probably meet your expectations; however, it may take them years before they offer the same functionality as GoldED.

Personally, I'd build on top of GoldED. I am sure the program API would allow you to write powerful extensions. To me it seems faster than developing an IDE from scratch.

Regards,
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Am I the only one to think an IDE is much more than what GoldED offers?


No, I'd agree. But the IDE aspect of GoldED is going to be much improved over the next year or so. Right now, it provides the basics: a few compilers are integrated and easily installed, you get an editor with features geared towards developers, such as syntax-highlighting, make-with-click, small compiler tools to set options etc. The groundwork. Now the IDE middleware can be addressed: a decent project management etc. Don't want to say too much here, this is When It's Done land, after all. However, there are a few heavyweight tools that simply must come from other sides: a good debugger and an interface designer, to be specific. These are gaping holes, no just for GoldED, but for the whole Amiga developer community.

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Posted on 16-Aug-2004 13:03:11
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So, do I understand it correctly, that I can use GoldED (or microgolded) easily with the OS4 pre-release SDK, I mean, is there an installation option so that I do not have do do anything myself?

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Posted on 16-Aug-2004 13:37:30
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So, do I understand it correctly, that I can use GoldED (or microgolded) easily with the OS4 pre-release SDK


Obviously you can use microgolded, it is just an editor. As to GoldED Studio, you can use the SDK pre-release with its generic C/C++ mode but the SDK pre-release is not integrated in the sense that the MorphOS SDK is integrated (it is not included on the CD, you will not get syntax highlighting for OS4 functions, that sort of caveats). You might me able to work around that and configure everything for the SDK but it is not as easy as it sounds. I recommend to wait until the OS4 SDK is publicly released and GoldED is pre-configured for it.

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Posted on 16-Aug-2004 14:22:35
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Nice it works quite well, it install worked 100% no problems,

the SDK install failed I wonder way? assuming OS39 SDK?

The OS40 SDK is like this!!

path for include is
SDK:include/include_h

and the compiler is installed inn
GCC:bin

there are some problems whit some dad keys,
they output esc-code sequences on old programs.

One more annoying thing the '*' key on numpad is used as program shortcut,
I like to use that key!!!

The colors are displayed right, the only thing i did not like is that
sea blue color on printf() and if it's not a
good contrast color to the gray background.


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Posted on 16-Aug-2004 16:35:35
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Nice it works quite well, it install worked 100% no problems. The SDK install failed I wonder way? assuming OS39 SDK?


What SDK? None is included. You get an explantion to that extent if you try to install it anyway. A complete trial with SDK is not available (this time). That would be a whopping 80 MB. If anybody wants a trial with C/C++ SDK, let me know, otherwise I'll take my time.

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Posted on 16-Aug-2004 18:25:30
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@dietmar

What's happened to your paypal setup... I want to order the upgrade CD, but there's no way that I can find to do it from your site, you have NO AIX dealers listed. The only way I can purchase is with a credit card or paypal...

You really need to get this sorted, I should think you've lost quite a few sales because it's so difficult to actually buy AIX...


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Posted on 16-Aug-2004 19:09:08
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Please read this:

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paypal setup... I want to order the upgrade CD


If you want to order, contact me via e-mail and I will get you in touch with a dealer or see how I can help you if a product doesn't have a distributor. There is no buy button on my site because it's designed as support site and not intended to be a sales site.

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Posted on 16-Aug-2004 20:09:34
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microGoldEd SP20 rocks!

Very likely to be the best fiver I've spent on a piece of software. (Then again, I'm a text-ed-junkie)

Me, I only use it for text editing, not being a developer or nuthin. And for that it's really all one could ever ask for and then some.

The keyboard configuration with the default install felt greatly awkward at first, but after having spent an hour or two sorting that out to my liking, it's like we've known each other forever!

It makes me not miss EdWord all that much, and for anyone looking for a "Notepad with an attitude" (or similarly silly catchline) this one's a steal! The most useful features in my book (apart from the configurability) being the macro facility and the extensive backup-option.

I'm also impressed with Mr. Eilert's quick replies to e-mail and generally helpful attitude.


So, a big thanks goes out to the author for a highly usable piece of software!

And a thanks also to the Total Amiga guys for the good article in the last issue. (Though it is possible to work with multiple configs, which I guess proves the point about poor documentation, as there's like a million things to discover about this app as you go along.)


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Posted on 16-Aug-2004 22:37:38
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I like microgolded.. and I agree it was a great buy at only 5 EURO. I do my wookiechat coding in it. :)

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