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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 16:20:39
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| Nice, good to see something being done to unify and help developers.
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 16:28:36
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 16:30:16
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| He he, you're spending too much time on it |
Aw, damn. You know how good I am at typos, and how lazy I am at correcting them.
Of course, this was meant to be "AmigaOS4, .. ,AmigaOS3".
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 16:35:10
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 17:24:56
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| Marvellous project, hope it will stay and mature. |
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 18:02:15
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| Damn! Why is this only for developers?
I could "add" tools I like quite easy thank you. Open Office, Firefox etc. 
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 18:56:58
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| Kudos!
I hope Hyperion will offer support for OS4 devs in the future through the purchase of an SDK CD-ROM or similar. Having a free compiler toolset is nice but I wouldn't mind paying for support if it was offered.
Some might enjoy the old GeekGadgets days but all I remember is spending a month or two fighting with the tools to get my 68k C++ projects compiled. I'd rather buy a known working compile of the toolset if given a choice.
Still great to see a common effort though. Compiler experts are hard to come by and even harder to come by in the Amiga scene. Code on!
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 19:24:46
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I hope Hyperion will offer support for OS4 devs in the future through the purchase of an SDK CD-ROM or similar. Having a free compiler toolset is nice but I wouldn't mind paying for support if it was offered.
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We're currently preparing the update for the SDK, and plan to produce and SDK CD-ROM in the future as well. I think that the SDK installation is relatively painless
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 19:25:41
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| Why is Amithlon not among the choosen?
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 19:41:18
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| Why is Amithlon not among the choosen? |
Because it is running AmigaOS 3?
You might notice that WinUAE is not specifically mentioned either, nor is AmigaOSXL...
It says "all colors", though, so if someone wants to do a specific Amithlon verision - welcome aboard.
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 20:11:28
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| Because it is running AmigaOS 3? |
So? so does AROS
Okey If there is no developer for Amithlon its not easy to support.
But as I read it you want to support os3/68k aswell, if thats true then Amithlon chould be rigth along with it.
I havent done any coding on Amithlon but as I see it os3 and Amithlon is one source too target in gcc
anyway good initiative, lets hope its gonna be a succes on a wide range of distributions
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 20:17:33
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I am not sure that the AROS folks would agree
Amithlon runs a plain vanilla OS 3.x system. AROS is its own OS. The only difference could be that someone would want to target gcc to produce x86 code for Amithlon.
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 20:44:22
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| But as I read it you want to support os3/68k aswell, if thats true then Amithlon chould be rigth along with it. |
There is no such as Amithlon 68k software, those are AmigaOS 3.x applications/games which are run under Amithlon's m68k emulation.
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| I havent done any coding on Amithlon but as I see it os3 and Amithlon is one source too target in gcc |
You can compile x86 executables for the Amithlon, but the OS is still AmigaOS 3.x.
AROS in the other hand is AmigaOS clone as much as MOS is.Last edited by miksuh on 13-Jul-2005 at 08:47 PM.
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 23:03:04
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| There is no such as Amithlon 68k software, those are AmigaOS 3.x applications/games which are run under Amithlon's m68k emulation. |
Well, the point is that 68k software runs on Amithlon. And, like I said, Amithlon programmers are welcome as well
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 23:10:31
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| Ah, great news! Thanks...
Just to let everyone know, I've compiled cygwin-binaries of binutils 2.14, gcc 3.4.4 and gcc 4.0.0 and they're available here until something official shows up.
(THIS IS CHANGED NOW!!) It's config'ed to be put in /usr/local/amiga
The dirtree kind of looks like the native SDK as well, so put stuff in:
/usr/local/amiga/SDK
/usr/local/amiga/SDK/clib2
/usr/local/amiga/SDK/newlib
/usr/local/amiga/SDKinclude
/usr/local/amiga/SDK/include/include_h
/usr/local/amiga/SDK/include/netinclude
/usr/local/amiga/SDK/local
and so on, I think you get the picture...
PM me here or on #AmigaWorld on IRC if you need any help.
I've already compiled YAM with it (screenshot) ;)
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Jocke 'Zerohero' Birging Last edited by zerohero on 14-Jul-2005 at 07:56 PM.
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 13-Jul-2005 23:52:56
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Great Line! 
Good to see you back posting again, know you have been real busy.
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 14-Jul-2005 0:08:07
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| This is excellent, and what is needed- both extending an invite to the 'similar/other' OSes to share tools, and to get the changes merged into the mainline GCC.
A big fat hairy GREAT IDEA!
 
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 14-Jul-2005 0:29:27
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| Before I download a huge wodge of sourcecode, can anyone tell me if I can compile this directly in OS4 (using the current public SDK), or am I going to need to bootstrap the tools using Windows or Linux? (if it's the latter, I'm going to wait until the weekend ) |
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 14-Jul-2005 9:14:17
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Please note that we usually use /usr/local/amiga for cross-compiler builds, although that shouldn't be a problem as long as the SDK stuff is correctly set up.
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Re: New project "adtools": GCC, GDB and binutils f
Posted on 14-Jul-2005 9:15:19
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It requires a working configure setup, which we don't have right now on OS 4, so you need a cross compiler setup e.g. on LinuxPPC.
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