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Software News   Software News : First Screenshots of BarsnPipes for OS4
   posted by ssolie on 8-Nov-2005 20:25:16 (9803 reads)
The first important step with the porting of the MIDI sequencer BarsnPipes on Amiga OS 4 is achieved - the program starts. The author would like to show the two screenshots as evidence that a successful port is now very probable:


Screenshot1
Screenshot2

The pictograms for the graphic user interface are loaded using datatypes i.e. they can be changed by the user.

Note: Originally posted by Alfred Faust and then pseudo-translated from German via Google from http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2005-11-00035-DE.html and edited.
    

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Re: First Screenshots of BarsnPipes for OS4
Posted on 8-Nov-2005 20:51:25
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wow, not to be mean, but I certainly HOPE the interface can be changed :)


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wow!! that looked like a child toy...


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That user interface is nasty, far too early nineties. It says in the news item that the pictograms can be changed by the user. Hopefully someone will design decent ones and get them packaged with the app.

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@MoleBrain & dOc

If you actually had taken the time to read the news item you would have seen this vital piece of information.....

Quote:
The pictograms for the graphic user interface are loaded using datatypes i.e. they can be changed by the user.


Don't like it?...change it.


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Quote:
wow!! that looked like a child toy...


True, how ever some one tells me it's an powerful program

Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 08-Nov-2005 at 09:17 PM.


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You guys in the back be quiet now. This is a much needed program, and has the potential to bring former users back to platform.

There are more professional electronic musicians who know this program than you think.


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Also just to point out that not everyone is a GUI euthentic guru especially if this programmed was created by a single person or two people who's strength relies heavily on development and not GUI beauty. If you think you can create a much prettier GUI by all means you are more than welcome and we will be thankful for your effort :D. Otherwise a harsh remark without a good cretisizim to back it up is unnnecessary and hurtful for no reason. Thank you guys for creating such a needed professional program, I hope there will be an 68k version too.

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Most studio musicians could care less about how pretty the interface is. As long as it is
efficient and easy to use, I will be happy. Bars and Pipes for those who don't know, was one
of the best MIDI sequencers ever for any platform. Besides which, lets get the program
working first for OS4, then worry about how "pretty" it looks.

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I hope there will be an 68k version too.


It was just recently released. I believe there was a news bullet posted about it.

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Yeeess!! Nice!! :D

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@cosmetic critics
Let's try and "remember when computing was fun" which includes remembering what B&P used to look like.

Being a B&P user/fan myself I know how crazy the GUI looks. I can understand the shock believe me. But let's try and be more supportive right now. Looks can always be fixed later.

Alfred is brand new to OS4 so let's all welcome him and not nitpick on the raw looks of the GUI so much. The news item means he has his A1 hardware up and running, has the SDK working and has already successfully ported a significant chunk of code. Another OS4 developer has joined the ranks.


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This is very good news.

An I'll have to agree, Bars&Pipes is an incredible
bit of software.

re:68K
Alfred has supported 68K since the code was released
by Blue Ribbon about ten years ago. The most recent
update was just a few weeks back. He also has ported
this to MOS successfully.

He has done an outstanding job of supporting the Amiga
community in all its flavors. Ten years of continuous
support is certainly deserving of whatever thanks we
can send his way.

Just my opinion, of course.

LyleHaze

[edit] This user interface is based on the look of
"Bars&Pipes Professional".. and it's fairly accurate.
If you want to critique a GUI, how many remember the
look of the ORIGINAL "Bars&Pipes", before the pro version?

I love the look.. It reminds me of the very best of my
years in the studio with my Amigas. This is something to
celebrate.

Last edited by lylehaze on 08-Nov-2005 at 10:02 PM.


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Nice to see it moving on nicely.

Where can I get a 'template' for the graphics. I'll sit down & dable with the graphics in between other jobs. How bout a OS4 Default look?

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Its nice,,but progy need better profosionaly look..but its good to see on OS4!


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B&P was a great program back in the day (I got a version from a coverdisk IIRC) - but it was pretty hard to get to grips with.

Funny how the screenshots look exactly like I remember it! Obviously all of the fundamental changes are "under the hood" - which will leave UI changes to subsequent releases... it's a good move, too, as hopefully it will get more people back and creating stuff again...


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I guess Ralf will be


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Yes, it was/is a very powerful program.

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How good is it today in terms of features and usability? And yes I know the GUI
sucks.. But it's fixable in future version.


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Quote:
wow!! that looked like a child toy...


The funny thing is many progs used by professionnals be it audio, video or multimedia or 3D are often set up with a non computer conform GUI.

Why? these people are creative people and want big and colorfull icons. They don't care if it's GUI is set up according to some guides. They just need a GUI which can be used right out of the box.

Just some examples:

Bars n Pipes (was and probably is used by many songwriters, until MS bought the rights!

Scala, the best Multimedia presentation prog ever (it's GUI was set up so that children in kindergarten school can use the prog! Play with it for 10 minutes and you know how it works!)

First version of Real 3D

Paint Prog Brilliance

Image processing software ImageFX

ASDG's Image processing and Morph prog until SGI bought them.

and many others

Most multimedia CDROMS do have a very kiddy like GUI but that is intended because most people aren't computer freaks like we are!

You know MS does push millions of $$$ in R&D for user friendly GUIs etc. and still most people don't get the clue how to use a prog. OK here we also do have the millions of useless features each MS prog has. But for novices most MS progs and also those of other companies are difficult to use!


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@Tomaskid

Ralf will for sure be more than happy :)
Its really nice too see such a profesional program like this ported to both mos and os4 which means more people can enjoy them. And ofcourse native.
The only thing to make it even more attractive to people (specially new users)
is more modern gfx. There is for sure good amigagfx people out there. Maybe anyone could do a set or two hehe.

Some of my pc friends knows about bars&pipes and some of them used it on their old a500. They will be happy to hear when i tell them its for os4 too even if they have no amiga. Programs like this will attract people. Just needs a modern looking interface. For example HDrec looks nice. Fruity loops on windows is the best gfx i seen for musicprograms.

What we need more to attract people to come back is a good browser that can show many homepages. I belive Paihia and KHTML will fill this up. Then a good gfx program. I hope arteffect comes native and pfpaint(would be nice with layers). Hyperion does gamesconverting later and thats good. Soms3d will be kicking when released in future (i hope so). We have DaveAE's software and audiodrivers which is a big +. Mplayer, Aweb, wookie,jabber and ofcourse all other good stuff people does.

Amiga future looks good. And to make more users/coders come back they need new hardware, which isnt avaible for the (long)moment. :p

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