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   posted by DaveyD on 24-Jan-2006 12:44:13 (6687 reads)
Please ignore and report to the site staff any PMs containing (or similar) this Nigerian scam
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I am writing you for assistance in transfering the sum of US$9,000,000.00 Million Dollars into your account. And, i am using this opportunity to crave your indulgience in transfering this money into your account, this transaction is risk free. It is only myself that is aware of this money.
    

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Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 24-Jan-2006 19:22:25
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ask her to meet you somewhere in your town/city, but dont give her your address


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Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
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@Fransexy

She's definately trying to scam you. These people will just about anything to get your money. have a look at 419eater and give as little real details about yourself as possible.

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Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 24-Jan-2006 19:52:58
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@Fransexy

my experience as an internet user is:

80% of all web sites are crap [either junk, or sex or illegal (this includes sites which just show pictures of people having a good time (party...) because the provider must have a written contract to be allowed to publish the pictures: they normally don't have, OTOH people on the picture don't even care or don't know. My students (+- 15 years old) are just crazy about these sites, here in EU it isn't even allowed to show pictures of these kids without the agreements of their parents)]

And chat especially the messenger types are up to 98% crap, lyers etc. except you personally know the persons on the other side. On IRC and special forums (like amigaworld) 90% isn't crap but these forums aren't visited by 1000s of people

My 7 mail boxes (I hoped to get less spam, and this way it's easier to check with my mobile phone emails I really need without having to check several 100 emails) do download up to 150-200 emails/ day (this includes newsgroups or forum lists) of these I normally get 70-80 SPAM which my providers already marked as such. My email progs puts them in a special folder where I check the headers just to sort those ads or emails I asked for.

Those emails from Nigeria arrive at a weekly basis. But I never gor any millions! But I would need the money to buy this little watersport toy I saw last weeken at the Boot fair in Düsseldorf (446000 Euro all inclusive and unsinkable) ETAP 46DS

http://www.etapyachting.com/index.cfm?Part=Yachts&YachtType=46DS&Page=New&Detail=Pictures&Pos=7

http://www.etapyachting.com/index.cfm?Part=Yachts&Page=New&YachtType=46DS&Detail=General&Pos=7

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Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 24-Jan-2006 20:03:45
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@Fransexy

I'm sure you wouldn't, but I'll just echo what the others have said. Something that 'big', complicated & simply outrageous just isn't worth entertaining. I'd stop speaking to that person. OR, get them to meet you in New York. Of course, you don't go, but it'd be a laugh

Quite simply, you never know what the other person is like or what their plans are.

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Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 24-Jan-2006 21:10:02
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@Fransexy

YES, this is a scam, here is how it works:

You probably will receive a cheque to pay into your bank, everything will look OK, the cheque will appear to clear so you send on the money.

Then in approx 1 months time, maybe longer, the cheque will bounce !

The bank will then demand repayment, leaving you out of pocket.

DO NOT believe that after 3 or 4 days that the cheque has cleared, it takes much longer than this in reality.

If you present a fraudulent cheque to the bank, you yourself are also liable to prosecution, it can take some time to clear your name even though you are the victim.

Cease communication immediately, if you have given no personal details then you are OK, but if you have, take advice from law enforement as you may be targeted for identity theft.

If you want any futher advise on this, please let me know and I will put you in touch with people who can help you.


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ED209 
Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 24-Jan-2006 21:45:00
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I recieved something like that as actual spam ages ago, nothing since i deleted it.


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Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 24-Jan-2006 22:33:06
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So that "powerup" guy got like $6 million then


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Rob 
Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 24-Jan-2006 23:54:55
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>Cease communication immediately.

Sometimes it fun to fill them with bogus information and just play with them. like it said on 419eater if you're wasting their time then they have less time to actually scam someone else.

Initially I though my scammer was genuine because he was asking questions about my BPPC. It did seem a bit odd that he wanted to know if it worked though, as I'd stated that I tested it as working the day before I advertised it. I also told him that there was no way I'd give my address and phone number to just anyone and if he wanted it to follow the acution on Ebay like everyone else.


this is his reply which sent out alarm bells staright away.

> Thanks very much for your response,am ok with the
> price, i will buy it about the shipping i have a
> reputable shipper in the united kingdom that will
> handle the shipping and for the payment i will
> instruct one of my associate in the state to issue out
> a certified cashier cheque of £1000 .and as soon
> as you receive the cheque you deduct your cost price
> and send the remaining balance to my shipping agent
> via western union money transfer so that he can come
> for the pick up of the Blizzard PPC 200mhz 040/25 no scsi
> 32Mb ram,so to issue out the cheque
> to you ,i will like you to forward the following
> details to me so that i can forward it to my associate
> that will issue out the cheque to you ,
> your full name..
> Home address..
> post code,
> state& country....
> i want it arrange this way,so that will be written on
> the cheque and your phone number ,your urgent response
> will be highy regarded am located in united kingdom.
> Best Regard to your response


Anyway today I sent him a reply which whcih had a picture from 419eaters propaganda page.

I said for more details see the attached image.



I ended with a P.S. that said

"I hope some mustardy **** explodes up your coco valve" (apologies if this offensive please tell me and i'll remove it if your not okay with it)


I thought he's got to realised he's been sussed now.

Well no he just didn't get it, he replied while I was out and said "pls give me ur full address ok."

I'm of saying "only if you say pretty please with a cherry on top".

The only problem is that because I didn't realise what his game was straight away he now has my genuine e-mail address. I'd have preffered to set up a web mail address to play games with, although I suppose I could still do that anyway. They do say it is easy to start a dialogue with these people from addresses they never mailed in the first place.

Anyone got any ideas where I should go from here. Bogus addresses, perhaps the local cop shop or maybe tell he sussed in words that he can understand.


Maybe I should do a poll.

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Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 25-Jan-2006 3:42:00
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My first thought when I got one of these Nigerian scam mails was "Of all the people in the world, why would someone from Nigeria choose to E-mail me, on the other side of the planet?". I'd definately never be able to pass-off as a Nigerian.


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@ firbodi

Quote:

Mmmmm! $9,000,000 dollars!! Gimme! Gimme!

You know it may be worth a try. What if it's true!!

Firbodi


Pssst, perhaps you'd be interested in a bridge I have for sale.

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Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 25-Jan-2006 3:59:47
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Quote:
Poster: Rob Date: 24-Jan-2006 18:54:55

Anyone got any ideas where I should go from here.

If nothing else, you could always change your E-mail address. You should contact EBay since what he is trying to do (even if he was legit) is against their policy.

I saw a similar scam on TV a while back involving an overseas motorcycle 'purchase'. The 'buyer' (scammer) sent a rubber check for thousands of dollars then before the check could clear said something happened and he needed his money back. So the seller sent him a real check for his money and also had to pay for the scammer's bounced check. At least the seller kept the motorcycle.

And of course, beware of any E-mails allegedly from PayPal, Ebay or whatever asking for presonal or account information, particularly when they use a generic greeting like "dear PapPay member".

Slightly off topic - Retailers should look out for 'Internet Relay' calls (similar to TTD TeleType for the Deaf). They will often try to buy large quantities of items with stolen credit card numbers, and since they use the Internet they are very hard to trace.


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Re: PM Spam / Nigerian Scam
Posted on 25-Jan-2006 4:50:59
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Heck, I'd be happy with 35% of $9. Anybody need my mailing address to send me some?

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Posted on 25-Jan-2006 4:53:48
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Fransexy,

Don't do it.

I have had many members of my site get ripped off by this scam. We have a free Christian Roommate finder. (Access Christian) And what these scammers do, is they pretend to need a room and arrange to rent out a place with someone. They then "pretend" to have an employer/friend or someone else send a large check or money order in advance. It will often be for several times what is needed as a deposit. They then contact the potential roommate and explain that there was a mistake and they need some of the money to be able to move. They instruct the potential roommate to deposit the check, keep the necessary money for the room and then send the remainder back to them. However, about 2 weeks later the check or money order is returned as a fake. Unfortunately I have fielded several complaints from people who have fallen for this scam and were out a few thousand $.


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Posted on 25-Jan-2006 7:40:48
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@Rob

Take a page from the 419eaters pages- get him to pose in a pic saying err, something I'm unable to type here and email you a picture

You know, as you like to see who you're speaking with in other countries


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Posted on 25-Jan-2006 8:17:16
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So I am not the only one to receive those PM and Emails... I felt privileged before ! Not anymore...
I already made plans to buy AmigaInc, Finance the Reality Project and Hyperion... And also create a new Hardware Company to design a new AmigaOne Board followed by a HighStreet Amiga Reseller Shop... It looks like I may have to delay my plans...


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@RacerX

He contacted me via amigaworld not ebay, I get the feeling he never even looked at the ebay auction. I've already reported it to DaveyD.

Thanks for the advice though.

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@wegster

That would probably work. He obviously didn't realise that my postscript was blatant verbal abuse. Perhaps he though it was some sort of goodwell wish.

I think I'll contact him again after the auction has ended. Right now there seems to be so many possible ways of playing games with the guy.

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Wants more ?
Try ebay Auctions...

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Great thread guys.

@fransexy

Stop the Madness!

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As this thread is about scams i thought I'd post this here.
Just had this sent by our local NHW (Neighbourhood watch)

CREDIT CARD FRAUD: IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ

The following was given to me by a colleague at work, whose husband
works for Barclays and has dealings with Barclaycard.

Quote: This information is worth reading. By understanding how the VISA
& MasterCard Telephone Credit Card Scam works, you'll be better
prepared to protect yourself.

One of our employees was called on Wednesday from "VISA", and I was
called on Thursday from "MasterCard". Note, the callers do not ask for
your card number; they already have it.

The scam works like this: Person calling says, "This is (name), and I'm
calling from the Security and Fraud Department at VISA. My Badge number
is 12460. Your card has been flagged for an unusual purchase pattern,
and I'm calling to verify. This would be on your VISA card that was
issued by (name of bank). Did you purchase an Anti-Telemarketing Device
for £249.99 from a Marketing company based in (name of any town or
city)?"

When you say "No" the caller continues with, "Then we will be issuing a
credit to your account. This is a company we have been watching and the
charges range from £150 to £249, just under the £250 purchase pattern
that flags most cards. Before your next statement, the credit will be
sent to (gives you your address), is that correct?"

You say "yes". The caller continues - "I will be starting a Fraud
investigation. If you have any questions, you should call the 0800
number listed on the back of your card and ask for Security. You will
need to refer to this Control Number. The caller then gives you a 6
digit number. "Do you need me to read it again?"

Here's the IMPORTANT part on how the scam works. The caller then says,
"I need to verify you are in possession of your card". He'll ask you to
"turn your card over and look for some numbers". There are 7 numbers;
the first 4 are part of your card number, the next 3 are the security
Numbers that verify you are the possessor of the card. These are the
numbers you sometimes use to make Internet purchases to prove you have
the card. The caller will ask you to read the 3 numbers to him.

After you tell the caller the 3 numbers, he'll say, "That is correct, I
just needed to verify that the card has not been lost or stolen, and
that you still have your card. Do you have any other questions?" After
you say No, the caller then thanks you and states, "Don't hesitate to
call back; if you do", and hangs up. You actually say very little, and
they never ask for or tell you the Card number. But after we were
called on Wednesday, we called back within 20 minutes to ask a
question. Are we glad we did! The REAL VISA Security Department told us
it was a scam and in the last 15 minutes a new purchase of £249.99 was
charged to our card.

Long story made short - we made a real fraud report and closed the VISA
account. VISA is reissuing us a new number. What the scammers want is
the 3-digit PIN number on the back of the card. Don't give it to them.

Instead, tell them you'll call VISA or Master card directly for
verification of their conversation. The real VISA told us that they
will never ask for anything on the card as they already know the
information since they issued the card! If you give the scammers your 3
Digit PIN you think you're receiving a credit. However, by the time you
get your statement you'll see charges for purchases you didn't make,
and by then it's almost to late and/or more difficult to actually file
a fraud report.

What makes this more remarkable is that on Thursday, I got a call from
a "Jason Richardson of MasterCard" with a word-for-word repeat of the
VISA scam. This time I didn't let him finish. I hung up! We filed a
police report, as instructed by VISA. The police said they are taking
several of these reports daily!

They also urged us to tell everybody we know that this scam is
happening. Please pass this on to all your family and friends. By
informing each other, we protect each other.



Be on your toes people there out to scam any which way they can


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