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Software News   Software News : TiMidity ported to OS4
   posted by alfa on 19-May-2006 21:52:23 (4860 reads)
In the past weeks I was hard working again. I've made a port of TiMidity to OS4. This wasn't as easy as I thought at first. TiMidity - source is prepared to use the ./configure command from bsh (on UNIX-style systems), which isn't (yet) available on OS4. So I've had to prepare the whole source-stuff "by hand". This was hard. By this way I removed all unneccessary stuff, to have a startpoint with the "basic" functions of TiMidity: playing MIDI-files or converting them to soundfiles (Wav-format).

I added a new GUI, because all GUI's for other systems were unuseable for OS4. Some basic controls are also integrated (Play, Pause, Stop, Fast-Forward/-Backward).

And I added AHI-sound-output. The quality of the sound (and the converted soundfiles) is impressive. I released this first prerelease to test, if there is a need for such a program on OS4.

My plan is, to enhance TiMidity with CAMD-support. Means, that TiMidity shall be able to play from the CAMD-MIDI-stream. If this will be possible ... ??? ... I'll try it. If this would be realizeable, we would have a Softwaresynthesizer for OS4 (of course useable with BarsnPipes ... I hope).

TiMidity uses the very good sounding GravisUltraSound-patches (GUS) and/or Soundfonts. Because these archives are very huge, I've splitted them from the TiMidity-Archive, but they are neccessary to work with TiMidity. Later only the TiMidity-Archive must be new downloded in the case of updates.

You may download TiMidity and GUS-patches and/or Soundfonts from OS4-Depot:

TiMidity.lha(420kB)
GUS-patches (31MB)
CT2MGM-soundfont(2MB)

Hopeful you find TiMidity useful
Kindly
Alfred Faust
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Re: TiMidity ported to OS4
Posted on 20-May-2006 0:59:37
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Once again Alfred, thank you for your continued hard work and dedication to the Amiga and for bringing this to OS4. Will the OS4 version be added to the official tree/support site?

Also, for those wondering "what is TiMidity" you can find more info here.

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Re: TiMidity ported to OS4
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Well done Alfred! This is definitely a needed tool, and it sounds like you spent a lot of effort getting it to work.

One small thing, which we should probably clear up before there's trouble: what is the distribution license for the GUS patches? I'm asking because I don't want Gravis to shut down OS4Depot for 'piracy'.

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Re: TiMidity ported to OS4
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Thank you Alfred for all the work you put into this project.
TiMidity and GUS-patches seem to work well; but I'm not clear on how to test the soundfont.

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well done alfred!.

keep up the good work.

ps: maybe you could port bsh for us


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Re: TiMidity ported to OS4
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./configure is available for OS4


download abc-shell from os4depot

then in shell type

projects:myprojects/projectx > sh
the path will change to this
/projects/myprojects/projectx>
then type ./configure
which will run (though I haven't got it to run 100% on any program that I have tried to port yet

to exit back to amiga shell just type exit


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Re: TiMidity ported to OS4
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@aldur:

Yep, comes also with the SDK.

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If you're looking for free GM soundfonts, then there are some here which may be useful - I've found FantaGM to be quite decent (and a lot better than the stock 8Mb bank that came with my SBLive).


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Thanks a lot, Alfred, very good job. For those wanting to try any other sound collection, here you'll find some.

Saluditos,

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Thanks Alfred. Good work as always :)

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Re: TiMidity ported to OS4
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It would be even cooler if we have Gravis Ultrasound drivers for Amiga I've got a GUS and an AWE64 both w/ 8megs of DRAM up in my closet resting peacefully...


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this is useful in many ways, some linux games/apps use timidity aswell.
did you crosscompile this? the gui looks a bit odd at some places.

i'll be back with screenshots.

the control panel looks weird for example;

http://img157.imageshack.us/my.php?image=panel9lu.jpg

and the text in the about window is centered to the left, leaving lots of space to the right.

Last edited by spotUP on 20-May-2006 at 04:08 PM.
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nevermind

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Thank you Alfred,
It is wonderful programmers like you that keep the spirit of Amiga moving
forward. Yes, there are alot of great midi works by talented people that I
and other fellow Amigans enjoy listening to.

Keep up the great work : ).

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This is great:)

Great work Alfred:)

We need this:)

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I never knew there was 68k version for this from 2001 already ported on aminet!:
http://www.aminet.net/package.php?package=mus/midi/AmiTiMiDiTy.lha


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Good Job Alfred

Even if configure doesn't work you can always try to execute it on Linux, and later modify all makefiles by hand.

BTW, could you please upload your sources to OS4 depot?

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I personally prefer the cleanliness of geronto, which is alot nicer.

[edit]
oops, it was for OS4... well then it's probably as nice as you will ever get...
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Hi, friends,
-- what a lot of warm hearty reply ... thanks a lot ...

Some answers:
1. The GUS-patches, I uploaded, are all from official public FREE collections ... there is no piracy.

2. If you want to use a soundfont, I suggest the following (maybe someone has a better suggestion here):
- create a sub-dir "soundfonts" in TiMidity's dir
- copy/move your soundfonts into this dir
- create a configfile for your soundfont :

'#' sing is marking a comment

+++++++++ snip ++++++++++++++
#
# config file for myfont.sf2
#
dir soundfonts/
soundfont soundfonts/myfont.sf2
+++++++++ snap ++++++++++++++

save it (I suggest) as myfont.cfg in the soundfonts/ sub-dir

open the "timidity.cfg" in editor:

* comment out (# at front) the lines with 'source' as the first (key-)word.
* add a line :

+++++++++ snip ++++++++++++++
source soundfonts/myfont.cfg
+++++++++ snap ++++++++++++++

and save it.

Now TiMidity uses "myfont.sf2" as the "sound-source".

3. The GUI:
Of course ... it looks current not very professional. But I've released this version at first as a test, if there is a need for it, and only to give a basic impression, how I want to create the GUI.
NB.: The small control-window is a GadTools window, with "hardcoded" images. So also the dimensions of the window are hardcoded. I've done this as a fast hack.
The AHI-soundoutput is somewhat difficult to handle with TiMidity. To gain control over the playing TiMidity, I had to start a new task. Tasks in AMIGA OS are not able to load files (also no image files - like reaction does). Maybe I find a better-solution, but for the moment this works.

4. The abc-shell:
I must have been blind ...
That means, that I have to make a rework of all ....
But nevertheless my target is the same.
I want to try to make a "MIDI-Softsynth", like known from the all-dominating Windows. Yes, I work also with windows, because there are programms available, which are not (yet) available on OS4 (example: JAVA with JAVASOUND)

5. one of the best sources of FREE Soundfonts and MIDI-files, I know, is:

http://www.sf2midi.com/

The quality of the soundfonts is different. But there are also very good free soundfonts available.

6. The real Gravis Ultra Soundcard:
... isn't it a ISA-slot - card ?

But TiMidity is made especially for people without any external MIDI-hardware (synthesizer, expander, keyboard, ...).

7. AmiTiMidity from the aminet:
- AFAIK is this a well done port of TiMidity 2.7.0. but unfortunately never furtherdeveloped ... the source of this version is lost ...
Because of that, I started my port new from version 2.10.1 . Later versions of TiMidity (current 2.13.x) have much features, which are made for the possibilities if Windows and the modern MAC OS.

At last ... the many replys here encourages me to work away .
It maybe not a secret:
My main target is to make a softsynth for the use with BarsnPipes, especially for friends, which want to use BarsnPipes without to have external MIDI-equipment.

Kindly regards
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Quote:
2. If you want to use a soundfont, I suggest the following (maybe someone has a better suggestion here):
- create a sub-dir "soundfonts" in TiMidity's dir
- copy/move your soundfonts into this dir
- create a configfile for your soundfont :

'#' sing is marking a comment

+++++++++ snip ++++++++++++++
#
# config file for myfont.sf2
#
dir soundfonts/
soundfont soundfonts/myfont.sf2
+++++++++ snap ++++++++++++++

save it (I suggest) as myfont.cfg in the soundfonts/ sub-dir

open the "timidity.cfg" in editor:

* comment out (# at front) the lines with 'source' as the first (key-)word.
* add a line :

+++++++++ snip ++++++++++++++
source soundfonts/myfont.cfg
+++++++++ snap ++++++++++++++

and save it.


How does it work if you have two soundfonts? Can it work? For instance I have both CT2MGM.sf2 and CasioVL-1.sf2 and would like to use them both. Is that possible?


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How does it work if you have two soundfonts? Can it work? For instance I have both CT2MGM.sf2 and CasioVL-1.sf2 and would like to use them both. Is that possible?


Try it, should work. TiMidity mixes the sounds ... but maybe the result is not that, what you expect.
AND: TiMidity uses much more memory and CPU-power.

Kindly
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