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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 17:57:18
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| Wow! You're on fire CygnusEd!  _________________ After a decade away from the scene, I am back!
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 18:18:41
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| This is good stuff, but don't you think that it's a little ironic that we have a CSS capable HTML editor before we have a CSS capable browser?
Anyway, thanks CygnusEd for another release. Anything else you've still got lying around on your hard-drive that we'd find useful? 
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 18:47:47
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This is good stuff, but don't you think that it's a little ironic that we have a CSS capable HTML editor before we have a CSS capable browser? |
This is amiga, we do things differently  _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff!
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 19:14:56
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| This works and works very well!
A simple HTML / CSS browser that I can run on OS4/X11 can't be too far away now!
Well done again!  _________________ OS4.1 + SAM Flex RIP my A1XE.. that used to have an appetite for batteries!
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 19:37:55
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 19:57:00
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| @Hans
What about the XFce-Desktop and some little games?
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 20:14:26
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| This is good stuff, but don't you think that it's a little ironic that we have a CSS capable HTML editor before we have a CSS capable browser?
At worse, you can at least download / save the webpages and view them in the editor
Nevertherless, it's a good step forward, not just this but the other CygnusEd goodies as well. _________________ ~ Everything you say will be misquoted and used against you.. ~
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 20:15:20
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Great job on the releases! Can't wait to give 'em both a spin.. 
A few Qs- a. It seems the X11 server is actually still 68k, can you explain what was recompiled or is PPC/OS4 native in it? (Or did I read your release notes wrong?) b. I _think_ you mentioned something about gtk or gdk in the thread you 'unveiled' xfce and amaya...am I wrong? (highly possible) c. xfce looks like xfce3- why not xfce4? _________________ Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 20:24:24
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> a. It seems the X11 server is actually still 68k, can you explain what was > recompiled or is PPC/OS4 native in it? (Or did I read your release notes > wrong?)
Every binary - except the server - is PPC/OS4 native. I'm still working on the server.
> b. I _think_ you mentioned something about gtk or gdk in the thread you > 'unveiled' xfce and amaya...am I wrong? (highly possible)
I have GTK / GDK 1.2.10. There is an example-binary in the package. GTK2 is not done.
> c. xfce looks like xfce3- why not xfce4?
XFce4 needs GTK2 (see above). XFce4 looks better, but it needs much more recources. I think I won't port this version. _________________ X-5000 PPC 5020/2 GHZ, Fractal Define XL R2-Tower, OS 4.1 final update 2, 4 GB, Radeon HD 7770, ESI Juli@ XTe SAM 460ex/1,15 GHZ, OS 4.1 final, 2 GB, Radeon HD 6450 Amiga 4000D/040 25 Mhz, OS 3.9 BB2, 272 MB, X-Surf, 250 MB ZIP
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 20:49:48
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| @CygnusEd Quote:
Every binary - except the server - is PPC/OS4 native. I'm still working on the server. |
Let us know if you need help with the server. There are a few of us (e.g. Bean, evilrich, myself, etc.) that have done fork/spawn ports now and I assume the X server has fork() or similar in it. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 21:21:52
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| By me X-Windows crashes my A1... so I can't use it  _________________ RedOneX (SAM 460ex) and an A1 which now rests quite. Amiga OS 4.1.6 and CinemaWare games. Classic and NG softwares.
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 21:50:47
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Did you try Xami? (Aminet) _________________ X-5000 PPC 5020/2 GHZ, Fractal Define XL R2-Tower, OS 4.1 final update 2, 4 GB, Radeon HD 7770, ESI Juli@ XTe SAM 460ex/1,15 GHZ, OS 4.1 final, 2 GB, Radeon HD 6450 Amiga 4000D/040 25 Mhz, OS 3.9 BB2, 272 MB, X-Surf, 250 MB ZIP
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 21:53:51
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Thanks for your offer. When I need help, I will write a mail! _________________ X-5000 PPC 5020/2 GHZ, Fractal Define XL R2-Tower, OS 4.1 final update 2, 4 GB, Radeon HD 7770, ESI Juli@ XTe SAM 460ex/1,15 GHZ, OS 4.1 final, 2 GB, Radeon HD 6450 Amiga 4000D/040 25 Mhz, OS 3.9 BB2, 272 MB, X-Surf, 250 MB ZIP
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 30-May-2006 22:51:40
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| @unimon
When I installed the program, I kept getting grim reapers, and then complete lockup. I snooped through the unpacked archive, and found the 3 libraries, path = X11R6.3-Prerelease1/GeekGadgets68k/sys/libs/. The 3 libraries are ixemul.library, ixnet.library and fifo.library. I manually copied them to libs: and lo and behold, the system sprang to life. I also made sure Cygnix-startup was being executed. Last edited by jtubbs on 30-May-2006 at 10:53 PM.
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 31-May-2006 0:21:25
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At worse, you can at least download / save the webpages and view them in the editor |
Hm,
{talk to myself}... need to get home to try that out ... {/talk to myself}
Didn't someone create a html file system to mount a http:// address as a regular dos device ? Then, Amaya could load the index file from that device
{talk to myself}... I have to try that out...{/talk to myself}
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 31-May-2006 0:31:13
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Didn't someone create a html file system to mount a http:// address as a regular dos device ? Then, Amaya could load the index file from that device | At least 3. I wrote one about 8 years ago since I din't know Michael van Elst did one earlier already, and someone else implemeted a new one a few months ago since he didn't know both of them ... |
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 31-May-2006 0:35:54
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| @Jorge Quote:
Didn't someone create a html file system to mount a http:// address as a regular dos device ? Then, Amaya could load the index file from that device |
Chris_Y did the 'recent one,' believe it's on OS4depot, and was a news item not that long ago..a quick search should find that one, dunno about Joerg's or the other one Joerg mentioned tho.. _________________ Are we not done with the same silly arguments and flames yet??!
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 31-May-2006 0:45:08
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 31-May-2006 2:18:53
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| I can successfully load websites in Amaya using the HTTP: handler off os4depot.net.
It doesnt seem to load the images though. I had to assign "/http" to nothing to get rid of requesters..
I loaded amigaworld.net but couldnt login.
-Edit: Often Amaya goes extremely slow and then wont do anything for minutes.. and CPU usage stays at 100% for a few minutes.. and I keep quitting and restarting to try a new website..
-Edit2: two screenshots: http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/pics/amaya_os4_1.png http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/pics/amaya_os4_2.png .. It was a battle to make them, with 100% cpu usage, and amaya being hardly responsive when trying to load a site.
-Edit3: to get aw.net to load I had to click cancel because it seemed stuck on the first thing it was trying to load.. things seemed to go a little better when I disabled image loading (it didnt load the images anyway with image loading ON).. but its definately not usable for every day use yet. Also, it seems to display sites worse than ibrowse.. Last edited by jahc on 31-May-2006 at 02:54 AM. Last edited by jahc on 31-May-2006 at 02:42 AM. Last edited by jahc on 31-May-2006 at 02:30 AM.
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Re: AmigaOS4: Prerelease of Amaya 8.8.4 for X-Window Posted on 31-May-2006 5:11:01
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I can successfully load websites in Amaya using the HTTP: handler off os4depot.net. |
So finally we've got a CSS-capable browser  _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff!
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