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Miscellaneous News   Miscellaneous News : Printing without ink
   posted by Ferry on 5-Feb-2007 16:53:41 (2730 reads)
"Zink" stands for "Zero Ink" and it's the name of a company that claims they have invented the no-ink printing. The new system uses a special paper with embedded colourless crystals.



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The key to this process is the patented ZINK paper, an advanced composite material with dye crystals embedded inside and a protective polymer overcoat layer outside.

A source of heat changes those crystals colour, thus producing the print.

The end of expensive ink replacements and the beginning of expensive printing papers?

At least their printer is very small, as small as an iPod, so you can take it together with your camera and print your photos, only 2" x 3" though. I'm really looking forward to see an A4 printer with this technology.

Saluditos,

Ferrán.
    

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Re: Printing without ink
Posted on 5-Feb-2007 20:21:22
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Nice, how much for a piece of "special" paper though? This reminds me for going back to the past kind of heating paper. How much would such a printer cost and could it work in a eg. Nikon CoolPix digicam? Interesting and could be very usefull. Saludos pa Ferran, PR.

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To me, it looks like the idea is to just make a portable printer, nice idea for trips.


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How is this different from dye sublination printers that have been around for several years now?

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I was just commenting this with my friend and he raised a good question.
How much is this paper going to cost, and could you wipe your #### with it?
What I mean is would it be safe?


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Now if the paper were reusable, now that would be something.

Just take an old manual, put it in the paper tray and print the new manual over it.

That would be usefull!

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Well, not after someone wiped their #### on it.


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@PR

I have read that 100 2"x3" sheets cost EUR 15, and the printer around EUR 75, and yes, it's supposed to work with any camera. There's even projected a 7 megapixels camera with printer ("a la" Polaroid) for EUR 150.

@nzv58l

The word itself says it all: *dye*-sublimation. It needs some kind of ink, even if it's solid, e.g. wax, while this printers needs no ink at all (even if what it needs is an special paper). More info about dye-sub printers here.

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15stn then for one paper maybe. 10stn in here at a local shop for one "10" picture when making 200 or more , not very much? 20¤. Well, handy when tripping and could be good fun. Just thinking as I "have" to go travelling when invited to Spain (;) and Marocco.

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2" x 3" ??? that is very small. About 5 cm x 7.5 cm. A normal photo has 10x15 cm (or 5x7").

So this is very unusable... Who needs so small pics?


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This product is designed for adding to or integrating with mobile phones. However there could well be more, larger products in the future. Imagine PDAs or Laptops with built in (or more lileky attachable) slimline printers.

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Hardly new! Does no-one remember the inkless printers originally used by most fax machines? They used heating too. The down side was that the paper would gradually go black, especially if left near a heat source (like a radiator).

And since they don't make money selling ink, they will have to make money selling (highly) expensive paper. No thanks!


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This is obviously not just termal fax paper! It's been designed to produce photo realistic images.

I don't think the paper argument is particularly vaild either. Hardware manufacturers will pay licence fees to develop printers to embed in thier phones and PDAs, which is where Zink will make thier money. Sure there'll be expensive paper from the manufacturers, just as I have to pay a premium if I want "genuine" inks and papers for my Epson printer. When do you think the last time I bough Epson paper (or ink for atht matter!) was?

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The key question is: will these printed pics last forever? or it will be degraded with time?


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From the page:

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Zero ink required.
ZINK paper is capable of reproducing millions of colors at very high resolution.
ZINK is non-toxic, safe and recyclable, making it earth-friendly.
ZINK paper is protected by a polymer overcoat, providing water resistance and image durability.
ZINK paper is affordable.
ZINK paper is not sensitive to light.
ZINK paper can be produced in any size, in rolls or sheets, and on multiple base materials including paper and plastic. ZINK can also be finished with an adhesive back.
ZINK is long lasting. ZINK paper is designed to resist fading from exposure to light, heat and humidity.


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Well, comparing this to a B/W low-res thermal printing fax it's a bit unaccurate, to say the least.

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And since they don't make money selling ink, they will have to make money selling (highly) expensive paper. No thanks!

Question is: "current expensive ink + current expensive photo paper" vs. "future expensive paper". I don't think Zink paper will be as expensive as the sum of the other two.

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That's not a very new process, if I remember well Fujitsu have a similar printer with 4x6 inch paper on the market since 2001 or 2002.

BTW, the printing from the fuji was very attractive and quick
At the time a photo printed with it costed about $0.45 (with a $ at ¤1,29)

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Hardly new! Does no-one remember the inkless printers originally used by most fax machines? They used heating too. The down side was that the paper would gradually go black, especially if left near a heat source (like a radiator).


I agree Hardly new. I've seen several generations of this come along one was by the Mead paper company. The mead process did beautiful prints but had expensive hardware to deal with. Maybe electronics have reduced the hardware?


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. . . works on thermal paper when no ribbons are installed. Fails the light-sensitivity test but we still have the drivers in OS4!


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