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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 5-Feb-2007 20:21:22
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| Nice, how much for a piece of "special" paper though? This reminds me for going back to the past kind of heating paper. How much would such a printer cost and could it work in a eg. Nikon CoolPix digicam? Interesting and could be very usefull. Saludos pa Ferran, PR.
Edited poty, I mean typo;) Last edited by PR on 05-Feb-2007 at 08:22 PM.
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 5-Feb-2007 20:30:49
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| To me, it looks like the idea is to just make a portable printer, nice idea for trips. _________________ Hate tends to make you look stupid...
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 5-Feb-2007 20:34:25
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| How is this different from dye sublination printers that have been around for several years now? |
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 5-Feb-2007 21:26:44
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| I was just commenting this with my friend and he raised a good question. How much is this paper going to cost, and could you wipe your #### with it? What I mean is would it be safe? _________________ You can crack anything with your head, even the head itself. -------------------------------- ...proud AOS user since 1993 --------------------------------
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 5-Feb-2007 22:13:50
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| Now if the paper were reusable, now that would be something.
Just take an old manual, put it in the paper tray and print the new manual over it.
That would be usefull! |
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 5-Feb-2007 22:14:13
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| Well, not after someone wiped their #### on it. _________________
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 5-Feb-2007 23:58:35
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| @PR
I have read that 100 2"x3" sheets cost EUR 15, and the printer around EUR 75, and yes, it's supposed to work with any camera. There's even projected a 7 megapixels camera with printer ("a la" Polaroid) for EUR 150.
@nzv58l
The word itself says it all: *dye*-sublimation. It needs some kind of ink, even if it's solid, e.g. wax, while this printers needs no ink at all (even if what it needs is an special paper). More info about dye-sub printers here.
Saluditos,
Ferrán. _________________ Amiga user since 1988 AOS4 Betatester Member of ATO Spain A1 Cfg OS4 SCR A1200
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 6-Feb-2007 6:46:31
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| 15stn then for one paper maybe. 10stn in here at a local shop for one "10" picture when making 200 or more , not very much? 20¤. Well, handy when tripping and could be good fun. Just thinking as I "have" to go travelling when invited to Spain (;) and Marocco. |
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 6-Feb-2007 7:14:52
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| 2" x 3" ??? that is very small. About 5 cm x 7.5 cm. A normal photo has 10x15 cm (or 5x7").
So this is very unusable... Who needs so small pics? _________________ -Michael
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 6-Feb-2007 8:39:05
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| This product is designed for adding to or integrating with mobile phones. However there could well be more, larger products in the future. Imagine PDAs or Laptops with built in (or more lileky attachable) slimline printers. |
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 6-Feb-2007 8:49:02
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| Hardly new! Does no-one remember the inkless printers originally used by most fax machines? They used heating too. The down side was that the paper would gradually go black, especially if left near a heat source (like a radiator).
And since they don't make money selling ink, they will have to make money selling (highly) expensive paper. No thanks! _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue...
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 6-Feb-2007 9:28:26
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| This is obviously not just termal fax paper! It's been designed to produce photo realistic images.
I don't think the paper argument is particularly vaild either. Hardware manufacturers will pay licence fees to develop printers to embed in thier phones and PDAs, which is where Zink will make thier money. Sure there'll be expensive paper from the manufacturers, just as I have to pay a premium if I want "genuine" inks and papers for my Epson printer. When do you think the last time I bough Epson paper (or ink for atht matter!) was? |
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 6-Feb-2007 11:40:14
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| The key question is: will these printed pics last forever? or it will be degraded with time? _________________ No PowerPC, No Fun Make Amiga Great Again
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 7-Feb-2007 0:08:29
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| @Framiga
From the page:
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Zero ink required. ZINK paper is capable of reproducing millions of colors at very high resolution. ZINK is non-toxic, safe and recyclable, making it earth-friendly. ZINK paper is protected by a polymer overcoat, providing water resistance and image durability. ZINK paper is affordable. ZINK paper is not sensitive to light. ZINK paper can be produced in any size, in rolls or sheets, and on multiple base materials including paper and plastic. ZINK can also be finished with an adhesive back. ZINK is long lasting. ZINK paper is designed to resist fading from exposure to light, heat and humidity. |
@ChrisH
Well, comparing this to a B/W low-res thermal printing fax it's a bit unaccurate, to say the least.
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And since they don't make money selling ink, they will have to make money selling (highly) expensive paper. No thanks! |
Question is: "current expensive ink + current expensive photo paper" vs. "future expensive paper". I don't think Zink paper will be as expensive as the sum of the other two.
Saluditos,
Ferrán. _________________ Amiga user since 1988 AOS4 Betatester Member of ATO Spain A1 Cfg OS4 SCR A1200
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 7-Feb-2007 12:55:53
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| That's not a very new process, if I remember well Fujitsu have a similar printer with 4x6 inch paper on the market since 2001 or 2002.
BTW, the printing from the fuji was very attractive and quick At the time a photo printed with it costed about $0.45 (with a $ at ¤1,29) Last edited by voxel on 07-Feb-2007 at 12:57 PM.
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 7-Feb-2007 18:21:53
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Hardly new! Does no-one remember the inkless printers originally used by most fax machines? They used heating too. The down side was that the paper would gradually go black, especially if left near a heat source (like a radiator). |
I agree Hardly new. I've seen several generations of this come along one was by the Mead paper company. The mead process did beautiful prints but had expensive hardware to deal with. Maybe electronics have reduced the hardware? _________________ "The system no longer works " -- Young Anakin Skywalker
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Re: Printing without ink Posted on 9-Feb-2007 14:16:24
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. . . works on thermal paper when no ribbons are installed. Fails the light-sensitivity test but we still have the drivers in OS4!
_________________ -vortexau, who's A1 XE-G4 remains at half-RAM ! A2000HD (from 1991) 060 64Mb PicassoII with OS3.5 . . . still working.
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