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Announcement   Announcement : X-Amiga beta release
   posted by Fractallyte on 6-Nov-2007 23:36:15 (6225 reads)
X-Amiga is a minimal Linux environment for E-UAE. Here is an alternative to the massive overhead of Windows/OSX/Ubuntu/[other Linux flavours] - a sleek, fast OS that acts solely as a host for Amiga emulation. A CD-based installer is now available for x86. The website is: http://www.xamiga.net
    

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DiscreetFX 
Re: X-Amiga beta release
Posted on 7-Nov-2007 0:02:31
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Very nice that this is available now.



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I think I'll be trying this one out soon. Nice work.

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Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes....
I plan on installing X-Amiga on my Laptop and on my new SAM 440 PPC...
Good work!


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Re: X-Amiga beta release
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Wow, this sounds great! I'll try it out as soon as I can...

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Re: X-Amiga beta release
Posted on 7-Nov-2007 0:46:40
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Looks interesting.

Is this not what the KX Light project (included with Amiga Forever) attempted to achieve?

Furthermore, what kind of speed increases can one expect when running this system as opposed to UAE running on Ubutnu or WinUAE running on Windows XP? Are there any benchmarks?

Kind regards,
James
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TrevorDick 
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Just downloaded the install.iso. Will give this a try tomorrow!

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This is great. I can't wait to try it. :)


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Will this also boot on Intel Macs?


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Re: X-Amiga beta release
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Plenty of good things from the Amiga communauty lately. The minimig, the uae integration in aros and now this What next ?

well, i'm downloading the iso right now, i try the install tomorrow.


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Re: X-Amiga beta release
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Hmmm, that site doesn't work with IBrowse, except for the index, it shows blank pages with the menu on top. Likewise with other browsers like IE, Minimoz and Opera on my PDA.

The problem is that it uses IFRAME tags and relies on the "src" key only while closing the tag without providing any alternate content.

IMHO the layout of that site doesn't even justify the use of IFrames, normal frames would have achieved the same, but in any case, it could be made accessible to less fortunate browsers simply by putting the contents of these external pages between the <IFRAME> and </IFRAME> tags...

(browsers capable of displaying IFrames simply ignore anything between these tags)

Last edited by AmigAlex on 07-Nov-2007 at 05:07 AM.


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Fractallyte 
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@AmigAlex

Yes, you're quite right, I had my doubts about how well the site works, but just not enough time to do something about it. I'll be updating the code when I'm back. Thanks for your comment!

Amir

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Fractallyte 
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@jmbattle

It's very similar to KX Light.

Regarding speed: bootup times are far less than with any other OS. There are less services taking up CPU time, so more can be dedicated to the emulation. The kernel is also optimised to work best in this sort of environment - but I'd like to review those choices in a more methodical way.

No benchmarks yet. The 15s boot time is on my laptop (Sharp MM20) which has a very short BIOS check.


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I have no idea whether this will boot on an Intel Mac!

In fact, I'm anxious to see whether it'll boot up at all on ANYONE'S computer. I'm on the edge of my seat, chewing my lip, biting fingernails, etc. At least I have the excuse that it comes with a 'beta' label...

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I've done something similar for myself. I don't know yet if i will release this stuff.

Anyway, good work you have done with x-amiga.

Last edited by AmigaBlitter on 07-Nov-2007 at 08:55 AM.


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jmbattle 
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Fractallyte, thank you for your response. I am less interested in boot-up time really, and more keen to hear how reducing the number of background processes affects the CPU emulation speed. Again, benchmarks would really assist this comparison.

Kind regards,
James
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I wonder how well this would run in qemu? I could then have my amiga desktop at work. Hmmmm.


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@Fractallyte

Many congratulations on your work.

I downloaded the installer yesterday evening and have just attempted my first install on an old laptop that I had previously installed Xandros Desktop Linux. (I forgothow clunky I find linux! - I know it's just me )

Anyway the install process seemed to go well. I even though I had copied the Rom files from my AmigaForever 2006 package. When I re-booted the Laptop through the grub loader I just had the Xandros Desktop option and no sign of X-Amiga. I booted anyway and I'm now looking at the Xandros workbench. Unfortunately no sign of the Amiga.

I presume E-UAE is supplied within the installer? I suppose I will just have to .

I couldn't find anything on your website which explains the next step after the initial installation? I'll just have to look a little closer.

Thanks anyway,

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under 40MB for a full installation

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The X-Amiga system is intended to be minimal

How come the distribution needs 40 MB of free space just to launch UAE? I'd say it's a far cry from being "minimal".


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@DiscreetFX

Just tried it on my MacMini, and yes it did boot, "loadwb" did work, I just wasn't adventures enough to actually install it (will probraly wipe the WinXP-Bootcamp partion for it).

I'll just call it "Project Elenora"

@Petah

I does include (on the linux side) drivers for sound,network,usb and gfx, all this doesn't come cheap.

Last edited by Kronos on 07-Nov-2007 at 07:27 PM.


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Wow, This is the best thing since..... well, since a long long time !

ONE simple question: Before I install I want to know: What will I need and how to add those things (roms/kickstarts for example), directly into the ISO-file (where) or during installation (how) ???

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What's wrong?

This is what happened with my computer after X-Amiga installation and reboot:

Attempting Boot From CD-ROM
Attempting Boot From Floppy Drive (A:)
Attempting Boot From Hard Drive (C:)
GRUB Loading stage1.5.


GRUB loading, please wait...
Error 15

...and computer halts.

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