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Miscellaneous News   Miscellaneous News : Silicon Valley celebrates Commodore 64 at 25
   posted by elatour on 12-Dec-2007 1:57:47 (3649 reads)
Before Commodore came out with the Amiga in the mid to late 80's, there was tremedously successful and best selling computer of all time, the Commodore 64 in the early 80's. Too bad they were never able to replicate this same level of success with the Amiga.

In any case, today, Silicon Valley celebrated the Commodore 64's 25 years anniversary and Jack Tramiel, CBM founder, as well as many others such as CBM engineer, Bil Herd, Apple's co-founder, Steve Wozniak, Atari engineer and Pong designer, Al Acorn, were on hand to remember the "good" old days of the C64 and the rivalry with the Apple and Atari. Read more about it here.
    

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Re: Silicon Valley celebrates Commodore 64 at 25
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This is something I feel sad I missed. I've always wanted to see or meet Jack Tramiel in person.


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At least he has come back into the scene, Last I heard he didn't even want to give interviews.

Now, we only need top convince him to take over Amiga, Inc.

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Re: Silicon Valley celebrates Commodore 64 at 25
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I was the happiest kid in New Zealand when I got a C64 for my 10th birthday.. it was my first computer ever. I used to love playing on my cousins C64's when I visited them, and it was good when I finally got my own one.

I think I won the C64 vs Sega mastersystem arguments with my friends, because we could just copy our games for free.

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In the UK I was never aware of any competition between the C64 and the Apple IIe. The choice was really only between a C64 and a Sinclair Spectrum. The Spectrum had 128k ram but the graphics were horribly washed out so it had to be a C64.

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Re: Silicon Valley celebrates Commodore 64 at 25
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My first computer was a Sharp PC1500 Pocket Computer with color plotter, then came the C= 64 was my first real computer!
It was a great time!!!!

Last edited by mbilla on 12-Dec-2007 at 02:29 PM.


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@Darth_X,
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This is something I feel sad I missed. I've always wanted to see or meet Jack Tramiel in person.

Chances are you wouldn't get past his bodyguards.

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steve wozinack was being a dick saying commodore users wanted to be apple users...
i know i never did...i had an apple IIc before i had a c64 and i was sooooooo glad i could chuck the apple....thanks mum! she only got the apple becaue the stupid school i went to had apple...wouldnt it be funny if trameil did buy amiga out haha....

he didnt sound like he cared about amiga from the last interview i heard...wasnt he in competition with them with his atari ST?


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Now, we only need top convince him to take over Amiga, Inc.

He has 3 sons, you could ask them. However there isn't anything of interest owned by Amiga inc besides 'teh name'. (Hyperion pwnz AmigaOS source code).

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My two favorite lines from the article:

"Those Apple owners were stuck-up elitists."
"We made machines for the masses, (Apple) made machines for the classes."

Then again I am probably jealous because as a C64 owner I really wanted an Apple IIe.


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@Beamish2040

Don't be. I had a C64 at home and used Apple IIes at school, and the 64 was miles better.

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For those interested, here is a 2 1/2 minute video of the event here.


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I know what you mean. It was like crack cocaine for me when I first got it at age 11. It was very exciting to finally have my very own computer seeing as I always having to fight to use my freind's Atari's or my school's Apple IIs or CBM Pets. I spent the first two nights that weekend writing a maze game in BASIC on it around the clock. My parents were so seriously concerned for my health after my second night without getting any sleep that they considered taking it away from me at first. My next big computer addiction many years later was running and programming for a multiline BBS which I ran on my Amiga, which pretty much had me chained to my computers around the clock, and I skipped WAY more University classes than I should have!


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@CodeSmith
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Don't be. I had a C64 at home and used Apple IIes at school, and the 64 was miles better.


I agree. Before I got a C64, I had tried the following copmputers:

Apple IIe
CBM PET
CBM VIC-20
Texas Instruments TI-99
Timex Sinclair
Tandy/TRS-80/Coco
Atari 400/800
Icon
Hyperion

...and God only knows what else I'm forgetting here.

Bottom line, is to me, the C64 wiped the floor with all of them.


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Thanks for the link to the video. Here are links to the various articles posted about the event --

CNET News has posted a report of the event. Go to

http://www.news.com/8301-13772_3-9832182-52.html?tag=nefd.top

InfoWorld has posted a report on the event. Go to

http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/12/12/commodore-64-anniversary_1.html

Computerworld has posted an article of the event. Go to

http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?
command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9052698&intsrc=hm_list

Register Hardware has posted an article of the event. Go to

http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/12/12/commodore_64_anniversary/

Macworld has posted an article of the event. Go to

http://www.macworld.com/news/2007/12/12/innovators/index.php

It's the same Agam Shah article.

Mac Life has posted a blurb about the event at

http://www.maclife.com/article/time_picks_iphone_for_top_spot_again_and_woz_remembers_t
he_good_old_days

but when you click on the link to read more of the Commodore 64,
it shoots you over to the article at the InfoWorld site.
If the links are "disconnected" because of word wrap, just reconnect them.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/

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For my "you are there" reports of the event, go to

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.cbm/browse_thread/thread/0e113c5d09192fb6#bc32f0f8f4c6a296

Truly,
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Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/

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This bring me back a lot of memories. The C64 was my very first computer.
I spent many late hours with this marvel. I then purchased a C128, that
was use quite a lot. Then I went for an A3000 that still operates next to
my A1. I don't regret going through all this great computing time, because I
had a great time using all these machines, and today I'm still a faithful user.


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From: Cameron Kaiser

Anyway, here are some photos. This is Jack at the press reception:

http://www.floodgap.com/temp/qDSCN0785.jpg

Jack and his wife, talking to Bil Herd:

http://www.floodgap.com/temp/qDSCN0795.jpg

The cake Liquid Computing brought along:

http://www.floodgap.com/temp/qDSCN0796.jpg

Bill Ward and I splitting the last piece:

http://www.floodgap.com/temp/qDSCN0800.jpg

And last but not least, yours truly with Leonard and Jack:

http://www.floodgap.com/temp/qDSCN0789.jpg

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I've never liked Apple!

I chose a Commodore PET 4032 as my first computer over the Apple offering of the day and have hated Apple even since! There I've said it and finally got it off my chest.

I traded in my PET and "upgraded" to a C64. IMHO Apples were overpriced (and still are).
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TrevorDick wrote:

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IMHO Apples were overpriced...


Yup, Apple II's were just too high-priced for me, a poor teacher, back then. The C64 was advertised to be so much better than an Apple II.

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
The Other Group of Amigoids
http://www.calweb.com/~rabel1/

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PC World has posted an article of the event. Go to

http://blogs.pcworld.com/techlog/archives/006047.html

Truly,
Robert Bernardo
Fresno Commodore User Group
http://videocam.net.au/fcug
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