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Software News   Software News : AFA OS4.0 Final
   posted by bernd_afa on 24-Dec-2007 12:22:39 (3004 reads)
AFA OS 4.0 Final

http://amidevcpp.amiga-world.de/AfA_Binaries/AFA_OS_V4.0.lha

3 more Skins from Ken Lester
See Screenshot

http://www.five-star.com/kens_icons/screenshots/more_themes.png
Read more...





small display errors with borderless windows fixed (tkplayer round skin and bubble help from TUI)
flicker of workbench titlebar complete fix.

Boot problem on some Systems fix

Notice
blizzard PPC Card User with still Problems shoud use blitzkick and morelibspace command add here,
because "Anti WarpUp Code" of Card or romtofast set with jumper, seem overwrite morelibspace Code.

Notice for Coders:
In Aminet is from OS4 API the AllocSysObject.lha Code from Ilkka Lehtoranta from his OS4 emu.
AFA dont add this code , it seem more easy portable for all Systems, when Programmierers
that need this add this to their own Code.

Merry Christmas
    

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Re: AFA OS4.0 Final
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Thanks Bernd and Ken. Merry Christmas to you too!


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Thank you Bernd.
....And happy Christmas.


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@bernd_afa

Hi Bernd, Merry Christmas! I installed the AFA OS final over top of my previous version, the install went fine.

However, when I go into AFA_PREFS and try to select a new skin, right after the asl requestor comes up, AFA_PREFS crashes with #80000003 error...

"Software Failure
AFA_prefs
Program failed (error #80000003)
Wait for disk activity to finish.
Suspend REBOOT"

This happened now twice in a row... :(

System, OS 3.9 BB2, Cyberstorm MK3, Mediator with Voodoo 3.


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Re: AFA OS4.0 Final
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Good impressions I have collected from the screenshot.
Merry Christmas Bernd!


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Cheers Bernd, Merry Christmas to you!

HammerD, do you have wizard.library in libs: ?

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Bernd and Merry Xmas to you also!


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Re: AFA OS4.0 Final
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hello bernd and happy xmas !!!!

AFA-OS work well with great refresh and update status with dopus4, for example.
Its a verry good program !!! thanks for the last work on AFA

morelibspace not work alone but OK as module on blizzkick (AOS3.9+1260+scsikit)

My reports/questions:

-AOS4 theme is really now left centered. seemed to be not completely.... ???


When opening program MUI with an own screenmode (example YAM or Ibrowse):

- Nothing is patched. example the border around the ibrowse start logo). ???

- the main bar for the MUI own screenmode is white and with normal title inside. when ibrowse finish to load. the bar is allways white. use right mouse button one time and the bar become 100% AFA-OS (with the original color on the wb bar). ???

- The MUI icons (the 2-4 on the MUI window bar) isn't AFA-OS ???? Why ???


When booting my amiga without AFA: Chip 2038128 Fast 42924000

When booting my amiga with AFA: Chip 2049144 Fast 41119128

Some Chip gain, around 1.7 Mo of fast lost.

- It's OK for you the amount of free mem lost ???? No problems for me of course but talk about that just in case of.

It's also to show on smallers amigas that AFA-OS is good but eat some memory (1mo++).



Using AFA and I regret (because maybe seen sice lots of years) the birdie own colors per window opened.

- I would like to know if you are planned to add this feature on AFA ???


Making a skin:

- there are a guide/explanations for making a skin ???


My last question:

YAM 2.5 take 50+++ seconds to load with a normal amiga classic with aos3.9 and normal icon.library,etc... because YAM2.5 load lots of small .png.

Instally AFA-OS and YAM take just 22 seconds !!!!!!! the window of YAM is refreshed instantaneously (took 2-3 seconds without AFA) !!!!

- How the use of AFA-OS accelerate so dramatically the load of YAM 2.5 ??????? (and logically lots of others programs).


Also sorry if some questions in on the FAQ, I haven't checked the FAQ when writing this answer.

Thanks bernd for the verry verry good AFA-OS program for the amiga classics and for all the programs you have made previously like amiblitz, for example !!!

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Re: AFA OS4.0 Final
Posted on 26-Dec-2007 6:28:21
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Hello,

Last minute, problems with AFA:

1. Ibrowse:

right mouse button for the menus on ibrwose, have a differents order with AFA-OS ???.

- the last one on the right without AFA is: settings.

- the last one on the right with AFA is: window.

all the menus semed to be here but a problem on the orders of the right mouse button menu. ???? Im dreaming on what


2. Tool who update his window bar with informations.

inside the windowbar, informations don't flicker anymore but It's the left gadget and the right gadgets who flicker. I can arrive to see aditionnal informations under the right gadgets when flickering arrive).

exampe:

informations: file: xxxxxxx download ... mb made: ..... rest: ......

bye

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>How the use of AFA-OS accelerate so dramatically the load of YAM 2.5 ??????? >(and logically lots of others programs).

I think this happen, because on AFA the remapping of the Icon images to palette is not need.

>Some Chip gain, around 1.7 Mo of fast lost.

yes thats ok, new features need more mem.
but if you have only 42 MB without AFA OS(from 64 MB ?), maybe it is better when you use a small tile image for your background patterns in workbench.I think lots of your mem is eat by background images.

when i boot my OS3.9 workbench with marble classic pattern on a 64 mb system on winuae 59 MB are free with AFA OS

Wy AFA_prefs crash on Hammerd system i dont know, i never get a crash report from other user.

maybe you install newest wizard.library from aminet ?

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Hello,

I haven't here the HammerD problem. I could load here another skin without problems (just tried for testing). wizard.library here is 42.100 (20.4.00)

Thanks for the answers. If only the remapping give more speed to all, It's verry great. I have the feeling that the speed is also when loading ibrowse or do a catalog on dopus4 (speed catalog on dopus4, window load progress bar on Ibrowse go to full with more speed).


- Do you think all in AFA code is optimized or AFA could be improved more in term of speed ???


BTW, you haven't answered about my reports on the forum but I hope you have carefully take an attention of my reports

Do you want to see my reports here about AFA-OS on the AFA forum (and see me as a member of your forum ????).

bye.

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>-AOS4 theme is really now left centered. seemed to be not completely.... ???

i dont know what you mean.do you mean title text ?.this can change in afa_prefs

>When opening program MUI with an own screenmode (example YAM or Ibrowse):

>- Nothing is patched. example the border around the ibrowse start logo). ???

>- the main bar for the MUI own screenmode is white and with normal title inside. >when ibrowse finish to load. the bar is allways white. use right mouse button one >time and the bar become 100% AFA-OS (with the original color on the wb bar). ???

yes i see that too now and look soem day in.

a howto for afa skin is not here, but i hope its self explain.

all are icons, look into the dirs how they look.
If you have questions please ask

>right mouse button for the menus on ibrwose, have a differents order with AFA->OS ???.

I have no idea wy this can happen, AFA do not change any menucode

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>-AOS4 theme is really now left centered. seemed to be not completely.... ???

i dont know what you mean.do you mean title text ?.this can change in afa_prefs

The title on a window is not left centered (not completely).

Allready reported some days/weeks ago with a screenshot and you said you have understand and be resolved on the next AFA and, during the meanwhile, we could change something to have a real left centered title, but dont remember how (sorry) ???


Thanks to check and see my explanations about the MUI reports suggestions and improvments.


SKIN:

- How resolution use to draw a skin ???
- Minimal/maximal dimensions for each part ??? (or give an example who the maximal are used).
- Even if PNG, skin could be use with 256 or 16 bit paint screenmode ???
- why drawers with number ???? (inside subdrawer name seemed ceared for me).

Maybe I will start to do one by ripping windowblinds PC skin (for learning).


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>- why drawers with number ???? (inside subdrawer name seemed ceared for me).

the drawer contain the pixel height.here you can put your drawed skin icons in.

for example you have a skin that contain a titlebar in 24 pixel and you want use 20 pixel titelbar in afaprefs.

then the 24 pixel icon is used and scaled on skin load to 20 pixel.

But you also can paint a image that have 20 pixel in size.then no scale is done.

the technique is called mipmapping, the nearest size of a image is used and scale to the size want in afa_prefs

skin images should always paint in png format with alphachannel.ibest is use truecolor.I dont know if 256 color png support alphachannel too.

We do tests if store of png image is faster when not compress.speed is same on 060/50, so you can compress your PNG files

>- How resolution use to draw a skin ???

best is see the attached skins from Ken
and look what Dimension they have

BTW: in skin_read.me.txt are the options for the skin setting icon
BTW2:

If my answer here help you i add this then to skin_readme.txt
I see also skin readme is outdatet, the beta code text and intuition lib text can ignore

The Parameters of the Skinsytem the values are Tooltypes of the Settings Icon in
the Skin directory.
Note: This are case sensitiv.
The default value is 0.

closex ;position x offset of closegadget
closey ;position y offset of closegadget
depthx ;position x offset of depthgadget
depthy ;position y offset of depthgadget
sizex ;position x offset of sizegadget
sizey ;position y offset of sizegadget
zoomx ;position x offset of zoomgadget
zoomy ;position y offset of zoomgadget
midpos ;startposition of middle titleskin
bordersize ;width of borders if no Gadgets are in the default is 3


Here are the settings for the color of the winborders setting "skin border"
Possible values are from 0-255 and default is 0.

ShadowR ;red value of the shadow edges in window
ShadowG ;green value of the shadow edges in window
ShadowB ;blue value of the shadow edges in window

ShineR ;red value of shine edges in window
ShineG ;green value of shine edges in window
ShineB ;blue value of shine edges in window


Here are the settings for the color of the window title text when the window
is active.
Possible values are from 0-255 and default is 255.

TextActiveR ;red value
TextActiveG ;green value
TextActiveB ;blue value

Here are the settings for the color of the window title text when the window
is inactive.
Possible values are from 0-255 and default is 0.

TextInactiveR ;red value
TextInactiveG ;green value
TextInactiveB ;blue value


The next values are used when a new skin is select and load defaults is
activated.

>Allready reported some days/weeks ago with a screenshot and you said you have >understand and be resolved on the next AFA and, during the meanwhile, we could >change something to have a real left centered title, but dont remember how >(sorry) ???

ops forget the OS4 skin isnt fixed.Put in the settings.info midpos=1
when it now seem it is not left center it happen because skins have no left line in Gadget and the gadget itself is only 13 pixel.

but look without AFA, there is the same room for text now wihout AFA or AFA and OS4 skin

SizeGadgetSize ;value from 10 to 35
TitleHeight ;value from 8 to 40
TitleFontSize
TitleYPos ;value from -10 to 10
ShadowSize ;value from 0 to 5

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hello,

ops forget the OS4 skin isnt fixed.Put in the settings.info midpos=1
when it now seem it is not left center it happen because skins have no left line in Gadget and the gadget itself is only 13 pixel.

the midpos on AOS4 by default is 23. changed to 1. OK. reboot done and Its much better on the left. not completely but the rest of the space is surely the GFX itself.

BTW, lots of parameters on the icons informatins of the skins.


Thanks for all the informations for the skins, need to be read lots of time

The ####ty things is because I have FXpaint and with AFA, the refresh of little window is crasy slow, even with a 1260. FXpaint for drawing and save to PNG. I think there is nothing to do for transparency, just added when saving to PNG (I have never draw something bigger than 256 colors with IFF) ??.


Hope I will try to do someting during my xmas holiday (with ripped GFX but Its just to see).

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the border images can paint without alpha channel

only the buttons need alpha.

you mean the coord window is slow ?.

if so you can move fxpaint Task to blacklist.info so it use only small borders.then it is faster

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Hello,

I talk about the window around a small skin picture for AFA, open with fxpaint, who use, AFA.

Great idea to blacklist the FXpaint. Thanks.


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