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Software News   Software News : Epistula Instant Messenger v52.20
   posted by Slash on 24-Jun-2008 16:18:16 (4496 reads)
Just before I go to Glastonbury for a week I thought I'd share the latest development version of Epistula with you so hopefully I'll have lots of feedback for when I come back.

Please read the ReadMe and ChangeLog for important notes and information which you'll need to know should you run into trouble. Especially note the text regarding NBitmap.mcc and CompactWindow.mcc.

Read more... (mod note)


Here's the URL for the latest version. As usual, backup your settings files and if you do experience a crash there's a .debug version of Epistula included (the msn.plugin is already a debug version) so please send me any crashlogs.

Remember, my ISP server doesn't support .lha files so right-click and download with an appropriate menu item.

Epistula v52.20

I'm leaving in two hours time, so if you find anything wrong with the installation or archive please mail me ASAP and I'll try and sort it before I leave.

Cheers,
daniel@the-snakepit.co.uk
    

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Re: Epistula Instant Messenger v52.20
Posted on 24-Jun-2008 16:23:16
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Pole !

Been away from my amiga for a week and what do i see :) Epistula

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Re: Epistula Instant Messenger v52.20
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I got this message when launching epistula:

"Couldn't open required MUI custom class 'NBitmap.mcc' v15.3

Currently installed is 15.4, please upgrade............

Slash, I hope that you're still there and can fix this?

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@hotrod 

Me too


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Re: Epistula Instant Messenger v52.20
Posted on 24-Jun-2008 18:39:51
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about NBitmap, install the one bundled in the archive.

The problem is Compactwindow.mcc here

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Re: Epistula Instant Messenger v52.20
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Crashes and burns here when trying to connect.

It may be related to connecting trough a proxy? Perhaps... unfortunately it throws DSI exceptions and Grim Reapers when it shows the error authenticating window.

I can't connect using SabreMSN (but it doesn't crash) so I guess the connection problem may be similar.


-edit- fixed some typos

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Re: Epistula Instant Messenger v52.20
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No problems connecting here.
Installed the two mui libraries by hand and rebooted.
Connection worked ok first time.
Got a DSI error when trying to bring config up when connected.
No problem bringing config up when not connected.


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Re: Epistula Instant Messenger v52.20
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thats weird!

CompactWindow.mcc can't be opened here.


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I take it you used the one provided and not one from elsewhere?


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of course

CompactWindow.mcc 392269 ----rwed 29-Mar-07 21:22:48

edit- ok fixed .... hvdragbar.image not installed

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perhaps Epistula should check that all images needed are available.


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that image is part of the original CompactWindow archive, so my fault then!

btw ... do you have some voodoo trick in the TPC/IP stack? (users-routes or such)

This "thing" is driving me crazy! (i hate MSN but i MUST have it!!!)


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@FRamiga

Offcourse I installed the classes included in the archive, still get that message. Will have a look at it though...

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@hotrod.

I hope you installed the libraries from data/mui drawer as the installer doesnt do this for you.

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Same problem here with compactwindow.mcc. I copied the versions from the epistula archive, rebooted, but epistula still complains that it needs compactwindow v15.0.
"version compactwindow.mcc full" says I have version 15.0.

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Amazing what you can do in a field in the middle of no where with a Nokia. It's also amazing that people don't read the readme even when specifically mentioned ;) However I should have mentioned you need to install the latest 68k version of CompactWindow then overwrite the .mcc with the one in the archive. Send crashlogs from .debug version please.


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yes Slash ... you should point that bits out! and now theres a new NList archive thats shows the same error message.

NList-0.102


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@Slash

Must admit, I didn't read the docs even though I read the bit that says I should.
In my defense, it was one in the morning when I noticed the update and gave it a go.


Still haven't read the manual since because I'm having some troubles with fonts and the OS4 PDF reader, but that's another story.

Got it going anyway and have to say it's looking good.
Getting some random DSI errors but will do a proper narrative on those and send it with the crashlogs, in the next few days.


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Quote:
It's also amazing that people don't read the readme even when specifically mentioned ;)


A good programming practice is avoiding asumptions and adding proper error handling: If your app/component needs certain library/component it shouldn't crash when it's not present and it should display an error message informing the user about the lack of certain component version and exit without crashing.

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@All

Please, if you're having problems, i.e. DSI GrimReapers etc then please try the .debug version with a nice healthy stack and send me the crashlogs. Remember, I cannot fix these things if you don't help me track these bugs down as I don't have these problems with my installation.

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Crashes and burns here when trying to connect.

It may be related to connecting trough a proxy? Perhaps... unfortunately it throws DSI exceptions and Grim Reapers when it shows the error authenticating window.


Sorry to sound a bit off, but what kind of error report is that? If it's crashing and burning, or throwing DSI and GrimRepaers then why have I not received several crashlogs from you yet?

Have you tried the .debug version?

I can't fix things if I don't know about the problems you're having. No one else seems to be getting these problems on connection, and I don't have any crashes with my version which sits online for days on end.

Quote:
A good programming practice is avoiding asumptions and adding proper error handling: If your app/component needs certain library/component it shouldn't crash when it's not present and it should display an error message informing the user about the lack of certain component version and exit without crashing.


Please don't lecture me about good programming practice when the only thing you've pointed out is in no way related to this release of Epistula. The crashes have nothing to do with library/mcc failure.

For the record, Epistula doesn't assume anything about opening components, it opens what it needs and checks versions of libraries and required external MUI classes. It certainly doesn't crash if it can't find a library and it certainly doesn't crash when it can't find a MUI class; on the contrary, it displays a warning message saying that it can't start and states the reason why, and if for some reason intuition.library failed, it will fall back to outputting the error message via DebugPrintF().

The actual problem with CompactWindow.mcc is infact a problem with the class itself. I quickly ported the 68k version and added no checks or such for failure to load images etc, but a failure will stop the class initialising, which in turn fails the Epistula check, and displays a message stating the correct version couldn't be opened. Epistula does NOT crash if this fails, so please stop suggessting that it does.

Also, if I state in the actual news item on AW.net that you should read the ReadMe file in the archive for important information, then quite frankly, I expect you to do that otherwise don't come back to me with problems which wouldn't have occured in the first place if you'd read the news item fully.


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I have used this latest version yesterday evening and I haven't experienced any problem/crash so far. Well done. BTW I don't know if I have missed this in the readme, does it support avatars? I remember having seen them in a previous version, but I couldn't find any reference to them in the configuration tabs of this version.

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