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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 7-Feb-2009 23:49:31
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Nice news...
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 0:11:38
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| Is there any chance this should/would/can/will work on OS4? _________________ Peter Swallow. A1XEG3-800 [IBM 750FX PowerPC], running OS4.1FE, using ac97 onboard sound.
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 6:24:37
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| This is definitely a welcome development. NTFS is the preferred filesystem in XP, the default one in Vista, and rumor has it that one won't be able to format hard drives using FAT in Win7 for security reasons. That means that NTFS support today is as important as FAT support was back in the 90s. The guys behind this project should be congratulated. |
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 8:26:51
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 8:35:11
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| Does this version support write as well as read ? The amiga ntfs driver from years ago only supports read, which while still useful, left me wanting. |
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 10:24:19
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| @Swoop, using td64patch the old version worked well on OS4, so I think that this version work also on OS4 |
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 10:27:25
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 11:40:47
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| @Swoop
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Is there any chance this should/would/can/will work on OS4? |
IIRC it needs libDeviceIO to support NSD64. A native build would be good. Really, the only difference is one bit in the command word. Makes me wonder why Ralph Schmidt thought it was a better way. Because it was a bit better? |
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 12:50:41
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| I haven't tried the NTFS driver but I expect that this will work on OS4.
I regularly use the 68k ext2FileSystem to access my Linux partitions and it works really well. I needed to run TD64patch to get it to work on OS4.0 but OS4.1 seems to support the TD64 commands without needing to run that patch. It just works. |
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 18:14:54
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| @dangerman
NTFS uses TD64. AmigaOS3.5/OS3.9/OS4.0/OS4.1 uses NSD64.
Her is the tricky part, if NTFS does not find TD64 it use old 32bit read and write, the result is some that looks like it works but corrupted partitions as soon as you write some to disk.
Device command support is individual for etch device. way NTFS does not support NSD64 is beyond me, my only guess MorphOS developer does not wont to support NSD64. Last edited by NutsAboutAmiga on 08-Feb-2009 at 06:32 PM.
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 18:15:24
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| @Hypex
and why should one adopt NSD anyway? Because some guys decided it was the standard for Hack&Patch OS3.5, when something working already existed way before? :)
I always find it funny how some guys refer to TD64 as 3rd party hack, when NSD surely has nothing more official. :)
Also see http://babel.de/download/64bit.tar.bz2 (from http://babel.de/amiga.html ) for more information about the "official" solution. :) Last edited by Fab on 08-Feb-2009 at 06:23 PM.
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 18:30:04
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Like I said, OS4.0 will support TD64 commands if you run TD64patch.
And it appears to me that OS4.1 supports both NSD and TD64 commands - atleast that's what I've found using sii0680ide.device. |
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 18:31:07
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 19:15:49
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| @pvanni
I used the old one via td64patch. My complaint is that it requires you to manually enter the start and end cylinder locations on the hard-drive instead of getting that from the partition table. This is a disaster waiting to happen, since forgetting to change both the partition table and the file system can result in the filesystem writing to other partitions.
I don't know if NSD64 doesn't have this problem, but I'd like to see this problem fixed.
Congrats to the authors, BTW.
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 20:57:58
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| @NutsAboutAmiga Quote:
There is no excuse to not support it, because TD64 and NSD64 uses the same techniques, the only difference is command enum definitions, he just being lazy not supporting it. |
I think the same about OS4, why doesn't it support TD64 when it could be dead easy to support both NSD64 and TD64?Last edited by Crumb on 08-Feb-2009 at 08:58 PM.
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 8-Feb-2009 21:25:57
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 9-Feb-2009 9:42:09
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Device command support is individual for etch device. way NTFS does not support NSD64 is beyond me, my only guess MorphOS developer does not wont to support NSD64.
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 9-Feb-2009 10:01:03
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 9-Feb-2009 11:11:16
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NSD64 is almost identical to TD64, in fact is so easy to port from on to the other, its just a simple find and replace operation in your text editor, TD64 is a hack just like NSD64, that’s because io structure is not extended, look it up in header files if you will. _________________ http://lifeofliveforit.blogspot.no/ Facebook::LiveForIt Software for AmigaOS
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Re: NTFS filesystem driver Posted on 9-Feb-2009 11:11:38
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