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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 14:24:00
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| Wow silicon! We await testing => mass production => public release, with trepidation!!
Even Troika got to the prototype board phase and that was a pile of none functioning rubbish! Lets hope this is as serious as the ACube offerings but with 68k +AGA, souped up and then some!!  _________________ "Art challenges technology. Technology inspires the art." John Lasseter, Co-Founder of Pixar Animation Studios
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 15:09:37
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| Well done.
This is FPGA dudes. The dreams of AGA+ or AAA chip sets can somewhat be realized now.
I urge all to support and even join to just learn or contribute in this FPGA arena.
These are some of the most valuable skill sets in the IT industry and i have no doubt the FPGA market will grow, and employ many more FPGA orientated staff. _________________ Quote:
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 15:13:32
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These are some of the most valuable skill sets in the IT industry and i have no doubt the FPGA market will grow, and employ many more FPGA orientated staff. |
Well, logic design skills for FPGAs are not exactly IT skills, they are hardware skills still. And FPGAs are too expensive for mass production, as in 99% of all cases the re-configurability is only useful in the development phase.Last edited by Zardoz on 18-Sep-2009 at 03:14 PM.
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 15:45:05
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| Zardoz said: >>And FPGAs are too expensive for mass production
No, this is not true.
While there are FPGA families which are too expensive for mass production there are also complete FPGA lines which are perfect for mass production.
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 16:55:37
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| hello,
WOW, incredible Hope all will work well this this board... Well done. _________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 17:03:23
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| @BigGun
I just had a look at the thread Who Owns the Rights to OS3
Can you summarize the current thinking here?
Note:I'm not wanting to start the old debate again. I'm just curious what your approach is going to be on behalf of Natami.
#6 _________________ This posting, in its entirety, represents solely the perspective of the author. *Secrecy has served us so well*
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 17:47:25
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| Hey! This is great news;seeing hardware , at last. Didn't see a donation spot on the Natami page but maybe I missed something? A new super-68k Amiga with AGA+ could well find a spot here amongst the classic Amigas ,efikas,Macs,and that common office type....  |
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 17:50:46
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And FPGAs are too expensive for mass production, as in 99% of all cases the re-configurability is only useful in the development phase. |
That depends on the intended market. If you expect to sell millions of units, yea, FPGAs are terribly expensive, and the large NRE cost (Non-recurring engineering) of an ASIC makes sense. If you expect to sell hundreds, perhaps a thousand or two, then the NRE of an ASIC is grossly expensive, and many FPGA products make a lot of sense.Last edited by billt on 18-Sep-2009 at 05:51 PM.
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 17:55:47
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| Excellent news. Congratulations to Thomas, Gunnar and the whole Natami team - and all others who have contributed. The dream is becoming a reality. My dollars are ready 
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 18:05:24
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| > Who Owns the Rights to OS3 > > Can you summarize the current thinking here?
The SuperAGA chipset of the NATAMI brings with some enhancements over AGA. It would be nice to extent OS3 and KICKSTART 3 to natively support these enhancements.
For example it would be nice to add support for IDE-disk-dma to the Kickstart 3. Also moving TCP/IP or USB support into the Kickstart would be good - as then the Board could boot from an USB device or from the network even.
We would like to do this if we could license the OS 3 Kickstart/Operating system.
This makes sense, doesn't it?
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 18:24:51
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| Hooray for Thomas!!!!!!!  _________________ Wanna try a wonderfull magical Amiga strategy game? Total Chaos AGA
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 18:30:48
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| Who cares about who owns the rights to OS 3. Amiga Inc are crooks and have bleeped themselves.
I say it's all in the public domain now and it's about time too. _________________ AmigaOne-XE G3 OS 4. A4000 PPC A1200 PPC
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 18:42:14
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 18-Sep-2009 20:12:04
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Who cares about who owns the rights to OS 3. Amiga Inc are crooks and have bleeped themselves. |
A while back there was a group of ppl who did a 3.9 ROM. I seem to recall H&P threatening to sue them if they sold it. Amyone recall the story on this? _________________ Hate tends to make you look stupid...
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 19-Sep-2009 3:49:23
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| The current pricing for Amiga OS 3.x seems reasonable and it available from several vendors;if a Natami port license cost no more ,it would be a good deal. |
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 19-Sep-2009 6:00:47
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| Does this board actually *works* ?
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Port ? You should have the sources and a licence for that: and unless the situation has changed, they don't have these sources, nor the licence...Last edited by Leo on 19-Sep-2009 at 06:01 AM.
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 19-Sep-2009 6:46:07
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| Good news that the boards finally arrived! I'm so excited i just can hide it (like in that stupid song ) _________________ Amiga is additive coz it is fun to use
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 19-Sep-2009 7:56:39
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| I'm about to lose control and I think I like it  _________________ Wanna try a wonderfull magical Amiga strategy game? Total Chaos AGA
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 19-Sep-2009 8:44:19
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| Bravo Looking forward to the final product ! |
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Re: The first NATAMI Mainboards have arrived Posted on 19-Sep-2009 15:52:16
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A while back there was a group of ppl who did a 3.9 ROM. I seem to recall H&P threatening to sue them if they sold it. Amyone recall the story on this? |
you talking about the one from the Ann.Lu days? _________________ "The system no longer works " -- Young Anakin Skywalker
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