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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 12:45:34
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| Many thanks Bernd! This is the core element of AmiKit and I am happy it got updated. _________________ Modern Retro Experience
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 13:06:12
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| Congrats!
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Eastern thumbnail plugin show 32 bit thumbnails and work with Workbench and dopus magellan. |
Does it mean that Eastern functionality has been implemented inside of afa-os? Or is Eastern still needed as an external module? |
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 14:12:17
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| Hi AmiKit...
Does this mean you can release a new AmiKit with the latest AROS updates? Please discuss some more...
This project might be very interesting for MiniMig & NatAmi systems right? _________________ Quote:
Easy Pocket Money, Freelancers & Experts Online | MiniMig FPGA, Sam440 Flex 733Mhz PPC, Amiga OS 4.1 Update 2, MorphOS 2.4, Other - AmiKit + Cloanto Amiga Forever 2008 + E-UAE, AmigaSYS |
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 14:24:36
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| Congratulations for one more time.  _________________
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 16:39:28
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| @Bernd
Thanks for this new release and taking care about remarks made when running AFA on classic amiga too concerning mainly speed 
Hope AFA will be improving about speed for classic amiga in the futur (if possible) 
Thanks to ken for the skins and thomsmart for the guide/prefs program and his general help for AFA 
Thanks also for dieter groppe for let bernd using the MCP code for the gadgets:
- One question bernd: MCP code was in assembly. You have sued easily the MCP code or have been converted to C ???
NOTE: damned, just 3 thanks ;-( Last edited by Mrodfr on 21-Sep-2009 at 04:41 PM.
_________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 16:40:55
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| FIred up e-uae on os4.1 and installed new AFAOS 4.5. Thanks Bernd. Last edited by Kicko on 21-Sep-2009 at 04:51 PM.
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 17:59:00
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| >One question bernd: MCP code was in assembly. You have sued easily the MCP >code or have been converted to C ???
I write own code in C, the asm code cant use. But the asm code was usefull, to show me the way what function need modify to reach the features.
a yes i see, the FAQ text we forget when AFA feel too slow.
but it should be clear, nice skin features, AA Fonts cost speed.But you can both switch off, or use birdie.also birdie cost some speed.
first speed up, is avoid antialiasing in font.also programs as dopus have options to redraw the windowitle every file, or update lister.
This cost more speed with AFA skin, but luckily dopus have this Options not switch on on default.and if you have this on, then switch this constant graphic redraw better off, because dopus copy lots faster also on non AFA and with AFA.
but best is when dopus 4 is fix, because it redraw always all text lines every copy file, so when using AA the redraw is much slower
when dopus 4 is change so it redraw only the file line it copy, it work lots faster. Last edited by bernd_afa on 21-Sep-2009 at 06:01 PM. Last edited by bernd_afa on 21-Sep-2009 at 06:00 PM.
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 18:53:11
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| Fixed broken link. _________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 20:31:41
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| @bernd_afa
Thank you for the update!
it seems that all the little "problems" I mentioned earlier (Link to a older message) are now fixed. Great job! |
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 21:21:24
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| Thank you Bernd for this new update. |
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 21:50:04
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| Thanks for the update Bernd (and others)!
May I ask you to please confirm the changes for users who are still using the old fashioned VisualPrefs + Birdie instead of the AfA_OS skinning engine?
On a separate topic, do you know if Dieter Groppé will be releasing an updated version of MCP in the near future?
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 21:53:18
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| Good, good, but can MINIMIG and maybe NATAMI test board run it?  _________________ Future Acube and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionals. Learn it harder way!
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 21-Sep-2009 23:07:27
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 22-Sep-2009 5:25:58
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On a separate topic, do you know if Dieter Groppé will be releasing an updated version of MCP in the near future? |
Yes. _________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 22-Sep-2009 6:41:12
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| @meet.mrnrg Quote:
Does this mean you can release a new AmiKit with the latest AROS updates? Please discuss some more... This project might be very interesting for MiniMig & NatAmi systems right? |
AROS? AmiKit is not related to AROS. The AfA_OS is an implementation of some AROS routines into 68k OS3.x (used by AmiKit). _________________ Modern Retro Experience
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 22-Sep-2009 8:13:35
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| >May I ask you to please confirm the changes for users who are still using the old >fashioned VisualPrefs + Birdie instead of the AfA_OS skinning engine?
I see i forget the explain here what AFA OS is.maybe this can add in the news message between what is afa and afa features since long time.
What is AFA ?
Because there is no AOS source out, to get new features for AOS, code of AROS is used and enhanced to get best compatibility and new features.
AFA Is soft integrate and its easy possible to boot without AFA by holding left or mid mousebutton down during boot.So you can easy see if there is a problem with AFA or a program, because it allow you easy to compare with or without AFA.
AFA is done in a way that complete AOS funtions/libs are replace if they need change for new features.for example:
diskfont.library/icon.library is complete replace with AROS code.
visualprefs/MCP patch buttongclass and execute before or after old code the new code, to get nicer MUI Button look.
AfA replace whole buttongclass with AROS code and add this feature. same is with function as Text Addgadget addglist and more
the use of birdie/visual prefs is too possible.if the string Gadget for skinfile is empty, whole AFA skin system is deactive after a reboot, so its same as AOS and birdie visualprefs can work.
SO you can use with AFA the 22 skins of AFA skin system and the 11 skins for Visual prefs thats known .thats overall 33 skins that can use.In amikit you can choose it easy with morpheuz classic skins / 24 bit Skins. >in the guide is written to add the following line : >C:AFA_OS_Loader after the line : " AddDatatypes ".. i don' t have that line.. is it >possible ? i have a base os 3.9 installation with mediator drives..
this is the startup seq snippet of my clean OS3.9 to get it work with AFA.here is morelibspace and afa_os_load add.
; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.1 (25.11.00) ; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems
morelibspace SetPatch QUIET C:Version >NIL:
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C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET afa_os_loader C:IPrefs C:ConClip Last edited by bernd_afa on 22-Sep-2009 at 08:34 AM. Last edited by bernd_afa on 22-Sep-2009 at 08:32 AM. Last edited by bernd_afa on 22-Sep-2009 at 08:15 AM.
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 22-Sep-2009 9:39:14
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| @bernd
A question: Maybe on the guide but I'm at job:
- What functions of MCP I should disable when using AFA with the patched gadgets on AFA (MUI,kingCON,system,...) ??? SYSHIHACK only maybe....
Yes, I said that because now MCP and AFA 4.5 patch together gadgets systems... _________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 22-Sep-2009 10:02:16
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| @bernd Quote:
first speed up, is avoid antialiasing in font.also programs as dopus have options to redraw the windowitle every file, or update lister.
This cost more speed with AFA skin, but luckily dopus have this Options not switch on on default.and if you have this on, then switch this constant graphic redraw better off, because dopus copy lots faster also on non AFA and with AFA. |
What is the name of this option in DOpus settings, preferably in English? Thanks. _________________ Modern Retro Experience
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 22-Sep-2009 14:36:53
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| >What is the name of this option in DOpus settings, preferably in English? Thanks.
its screen ->general-> display status Text in title bar.
when this is on, then every file you select and scroll the lister by holding down the mouse, update the window title.If you use on slow machines a AA Font this slow lots down, because this scrolling selection can work with over 30 files/sec also of course the skin draw is little slower as no skin.and when 30 times/sec the window title need redraw is not good.
But when you not enable this, then the status is draw in a line below window border.this can get a non AA Font as topaz 8 and its lots faster then.
but also without AFA OS, this status redraw during selection cause speed loss, you notice that deselect files while scrolling is faster as selecting.
There is also a option to disable during selection but i dont know them
but when use AA font in window title it can be more than 2* slower and its noticable slower.
>- What functions of MCP I should disable when using AFA with the patched gadgets >on AFA (MUI,kingCON,system,...) ??? SYSHIHACK only maybe....
Yes sysihack must be disable in MCP for AFA Skin. Last edited by bernd_afa on 22-Sep-2009 at 02:43 PM. Last edited by bernd_afa on 22-Sep-2009 at 02:42 PM. Last edited by bernd_afa on 22-Sep-2009 at 02:40 PM. Last edited by bernd_afa on 22-Sep-2009 at 02:37 PM.
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Re: AROS for AmigaOS (AFAOS) 4.5 release Posted on 22-Sep-2009 21:41:39
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| @bernd,
Thank you for your reply Bernd.
Actually, I am already quite familiar with AfA_OS.
However, I do not use it's skinning engine as I am still using VisualPrefs + Birdie.
To clarify my question, aside from the skinning engine updates, I would like to know what are the other improvements in this new version of AfA_OS, if any.
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