Many thanks Bernd! This is the core element of AmiKit and I am happy it got updated.

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Congrats!

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Eastern thumbnail plugin show 32 bit thumbnails and work with Workbench and dopus magellan.

Does it mean that Eastern functionality has been implemented inside of afa-os? Or is Eastern still needed as an external module?

Hi AmiKit...

Does this mean you can release a new AmiKit with the latest AROS updates?
Please discuss some more...

This project might be very interesting for MiniMig & NatAmi systems right?

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Congratulations for one more time.

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Thanks for this new release and taking care about remarks made when running AFA on classic amiga too concerning mainly speed

Hope AFA will be improving about speed for classic amiga in the futur (if possible)

Thanks to ken for the skins and thomsmart for the guide/prefs program and his general help for AFA

Thanks also for dieter groppe for let bernd using the MCP code for the gadgets:

- One question bernd: MCP code was in assembly. You have sued easily the MCP code or have been converted to C ???


NOTE: damned, just 3 thanks ;-(

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FIred up e-uae on os4.1 and installed new AFAOS 4.5. Thanks Bernd.

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>One question bernd: MCP code was in assembly. You have sued easily the MCP >code or have been converted to C ???

I write own code in C, the asm code cant use.
But the asm code was usefull, to show me the way what function need modify to reach the features.

a yes i see, the FAQ text we forget when AFA feel too slow.

but it should be clear, nice skin features, AA Fonts cost speed.But you can both switch off, or use birdie.also birdie cost some speed.

first speed up, is avoid antialiasing in font.also programs as dopus have options to redraw the windowitle every file, or update lister.

This cost more speed with AFA skin, but luckily dopus have this Options not switch on on default.and if you have this on, then switch this constant graphic redraw better off, because dopus copy lots faster also on non AFA and with AFA.

but best is when dopus 4 is fix, because it redraw always all text lines every copy file, so when using AA the redraw is much slower

when dopus 4 is change so it redraw only the file line it copy, it work lots faster.

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@bernd_afa

Thank you for the update!

it seems that all the little "problems" I mentioned earlier (Link to a older message) are now fixed. Great job!

Thank you Bernd for this new update.

Thanks for the update Bernd (and others)!

May I ask you to please confirm the changes for users who are still using the old fashioned VisualPrefs + Birdie instead of the AfA_OS skinning engine?

On a separate topic, do you know if Dieter Groppé will be releasing an updated version of MCP in the near future?

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Good, good, but can MINIMIG and maybe NATAMI test board run it?

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just a curiosity, the installation script install the base system, then you have to edit the startup sequence, but there is a point where i think i am missing something..

in the guide is written to add the following line :

C:AFA_OS_Loader after the line : " AddDatatypes ".. i don' t have that line.. is it possible ? i have a base os 3.9 installation with mediator drives..

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On a separate topic, do you know if Dieter Groppé will be releasing an updated version of MCP in the near future?

Yes.

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Does this mean you can release a new AmiKit with the latest AROS updates? Please discuss some more... This project might be very interesting for MiniMig & NatAmi systems right?

AROS? AmiKit is not related to AROS. The AfA_OS is an implementation of some AROS routines into 68k OS3.x (used by AmiKit).

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>May I ask you to please confirm the changes for users who are still using the old >fashioned VisualPrefs + Birdie instead of the AfA_OS skinning engine?

I see i forget the explain here what AFA OS is.maybe this can add in the news message between what is afa and afa features since long time.

What is AFA ?

Because there is no AOS source out, to get new features for AOS, code of AROS is
used and enhanced to get best compatibility and new features.

AFA Is soft integrate and its easy possible to boot without AFA by holding left or mid mousebutton
down during boot.So you can easy see if there is a problem with AFA or a program, because it allow
you easy to compare with or without AFA.

AFA is done in a way that complete AOS funtions/libs are replace if they need change
for new features.for example:

diskfont.library/icon.library is complete replace with AROS code.

visualprefs/MCP patch buttongclass and execute before or after old code the new code,
to get nicer MUI Button look.

AfA replace whole buttongclass with AROS code and add this feature.
same is with function as Text Addgadget addglist and more

the use of birdie/visual prefs is too possible.if the string Gadget for skinfile is empty, whole AFA skin system is deactive after a reboot, so its same as AOS and birdie visualprefs can work.

SO you can use with AFA the 22 skins of AFA skin system and the 11 skins for Visual prefs thats known .thats overall 33 skins that can use.In amikit you can choose it easy with morpheuz classic skins / 24 bit Skins.

>in the guide is written to add the following line :
>C:AFA_OS_Loader after the line : " AddDatatypes ".. i don' t have that line.. is it >possible ? i have a base os 3.9 installation with mediator drives..

this is the startup seq snippet of my clean OS3.9 to get it work with AFA.here is morelibspace and afa_os_load add.

; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.1 (25.11.00)
; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems

morelibspace
SetPatch QUIET
C:Version >NIL:

......

C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
afa_os_loader
C:IPrefs
C:ConClip

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@bernd

A question: Maybe on the guide but I'm at job:

- What functions of MCP I should disable when using AFA with the patched gadgets on AFA (MUI,kingCON,system,...) ??? SYSHIHACK only maybe....

Yes, I said that because now MCP and AFA 4.5 patch together gadgets systems...

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first speed up, is avoid antialiasing in font.also programs as dopus have options to redraw the windowitle every file, or update lister. This cost more speed with AFA skin, but luckily dopus have this Options not switch on on default.and if you have this on, then switch this constant graphic redraw better off, because dopus copy lots faster also on non AFA and with AFA.

What is the name of this option in DOpus settings, preferably in English? Thanks.

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>What is the name of this option in DOpus settings, preferably in English? Thanks.

its screen ->general-> display status Text in title bar.

when this is on, then every file you select and scroll the lister by holding down the mouse, update the window title.If you use on slow machines a AA Font this slow lots down, because this scrolling selection can work with over 30 files/sec also of course the skin draw is little slower as no skin.and when 30 times/sec the window title need redraw is not good.

But when you not enable this, then the status is draw in a line below window border.this can get a non AA Font as topaz 8 and its lots faster then.

but also without AFA OS, this status redraw during selection cause speed loss, you notice that deselect files while scrolling is faster as selecting.

There is also a option to disable during selection but i dont know them

but when use AA font in window title it can be more than 2* slower and its noticable slower.

>- What functions of MCP I should disable when using AFA with the patched gadgets >on AFA (MUI,kingCON,system,...) ??? SYSHIHACK only maybe....

Yes sysihack must be disable in MCP for AFA Skin.

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@bernd,

Thank you for your reply Bernd.

Actually, I am already quite familiar with AfA_OS.

However, I do not use it's skinning engine as I am still using VisualPrefs + Birdie.

To clarify my question, aside from the skinning engine updates, I would like to know what are the other improvements in this new version of AfA_OS, if any.

Cheers,
James
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