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Announcement   Announcement : Feeling Abandoned and Lonely in 3D?
   posted by DiscreetFX on 6-Nov-2009 23:15:37 (6648 reads)
Chicago, Illinois – November 6th, 2009

For Immediate Release

Compelling 3D Upgrade Offer

Feeling abandoned and lonely since your 3D animation software provider abandoned Amiga and you with it? After all you spent good money on your Amiga 3D App and are sad that the developer went out of business or left the platform for greener Windows. Well, we have a great offer for you. If you can prove ownership of your competing 3D animation package we will offer you a very generous upgrade path to Aladdin 4D 5.0. It does not matter if you own old versions of Tornado 3D, Sculpt Animate 4D, TurboSilver, Imagine, VideoScape 3D, VistaPro, Cinema4D, WildFire 7 or even Sculpt 3D. It does not matter if the company that made your 3D software went out of business or no longer supports the Amiga version of their software. If you can prove you own it we will give you a discount. Why not upgrade to the only commercial 3D animation package still supported on AmigaOS and being upgraded for Amiga OS 4.x, MorphOS 2.x and AROS?

Read more..


Contact with your proof of ownership via the link below. If you are willing to send us your old 3D animation program we can give you an even better discount. If you want to take advantage of this offer you have to hurry since it ends in 48 hours.

Upgrade Offer


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Re: Feeling Abandoned and Lonely in 3D?
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Contact us here please.

http://www.discreetfx.com/contact.html


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Re: Feeling Abandoned and Lonely in 3D?
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If I didn't already have Aladdin4D 5.0, I would jump on this promotion.

Just pulled it down from the shelf to get my registration ID number off floppy disk #1 so I can install and register it on my MorphOS2.4 MacMini G4 system.

Questions:

1. Any tips on the install process I need to know to get it working on MorphOS2.4?

2. Was Lightwave (Amiga versions) left off the list of prior 3D programs that the upgrade offer would work with for a specific reason, or was it just an oversight?

Looking forward to Aladdin4D 6.0, keep up the great work supporting AmigaOS3.x & 4.1, plus MorphOS2.4 and all other versions of Aladdin4D.


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@amigadave

Pixel Pro and Lightwave were not on the list but yes they do qualify. The Blog has now been updated to reflect this. Pretty much any commercial Amiga 3D program qualifies including obscure ones like Optics. Aladdin 4D should install no problem with MorphOS 2.4, we will double check and install tonight.

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Lovely offere here and there,

But I am only realy interested in the final Aladdin 4d version 6.

So until then, I will wait.


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@Gebrochen

Agreed, but we are trying to get everyone upgraded to the current 5.0 version so they are not as shocked by the price hike that will take place once 6.0 is available. Great pricing will not last.


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Hi Bill,

I have a hole bunch of original 3D applications for Amiga

Lightwave, Reflections, Tornado3D, Imagine, Cinema4D, Real3D, Monzoom3D.

Where can I send my proof (photos) to?

greetings

zErec

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This is getting annoying. If you want to sell your software, please consider ordering an ad banner on amigaworld.net instead of posting these so called "news" here in a frequency of every 3 days or so. Aladdin 4D 5.0 is already more than 12 years old and your statement that

Quote:
Why not upgrade to the only commercial 3D animation package still supported on AmigaOS and being upgraded for Amiga OS 4.x, MorphOS 2.x and AROS?


remains yet to be proven. So _once_ it is ported to OS4 or Morphos, it will be news. But until that happens there's really nothing interesting about it except that it's spam. Thanks for your understanding.

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its the first time i have heard about this, so its new to me. but as qwertz are saying its 12 years old so i dont see the point in upgrading to this. i would like more to get the aos4 version, but then you talk about prices that is going to be shocking? is the price of the aos4 verion going to be more or less the same as of adobe and theirs products? if so i dont think the common man can afford this new aos4 version of aladdin. but dont know anything of the prices yet so it could also be very affordable, i guess we will have to see.

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but then you talk about prices that is going to be shocking? is the price of the aos4 verion going to be more or less the same as of adobe and theirs products?

Please understand that this is marketing talk. I'm sure Aladdin 6 will be sold at a higher price then the current version but the price will only be as high as the particular market can stand.


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@qwertz

You are right, it gets annyoing, and yes DiscreetFX wants to sell software. But please consider the other side:

The Amiga market is very narrow in these days, and we should be happy, that there are still commercial companies who support the Amiga with (hopefully professional and uptodate) software. So give them a chance to spread their news and commercial offers via forums and newsitem here and every where else.
I do also release small proggies as Freeware, and nobody tells me off, if I post news on how great this proggy is compared to others.... Maybe nobody tells me of, because my app is for free. But basically I think DiscreetFX App is also for more or less free (from their point of view). The overall turnaround of Aladdin 4D 5.0 (with this marketing campaign) and probably for Aladdin 4D 6.0 will not even cover their expenses, but they still invest in us. Donnot ask me why, I think it's mainly not money (correct me If I am wrong DiscreetFX)

Unless the Amiga Market is not a real market, let us be a bit more generous.


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@gerograph:
Well, the problem with DiscreetFX is that it's all about announcements. They've never released any software for OS4, Morphos, and Aros- yet they claim to "support" these operating systems. By what may I ask? By selling old software? Aladdin 4D 6.0 for OS4 and Morphos is just vapor ware. And we've had enough of such announcements, didn't we? I don't want to sound cynical, but sometimes it seems to me that Amiga users should fund the development of the Mac version of Aladdin 4D because this actually seems to be in the works. I'm highly doubtful that 6.0 will ever appear on Amiga, because if it would appear, sometime soon then there would be no need in trying to sell the 12 year old 68k version to the users twice a week. Just my 2 cents..

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i think we should see a demo or something of the aos4 version soon, if trying to sell the 12 year old 68k version to the users twice a week is true, it is very sad to hear.

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@qwertz

Aladdin 4D 6.0 better be for Amiga and MorphOS too or everyone at DiscreetFX will be shot! The founder of the company loves Amiga! A4D is not 12 years old it's 10 years old! Not our fault since we have only owned it for two years.


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Quote:

Aladdin 4D 6.0 better be for Amiga and MorphOS too or everyone at DiscreetFX will be shot!


Well, this speaks for itself. I think this quote sums up the seriousness/credibility of DiscreetFX concerning Aladdin 6.0 on the OS4/Morphos/Aros quite well.

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@ qwertz

what's wrong with marketing a new version for Alladin for Amiga markets and at the same time letting us save soem money on the upgrade?
DiscreetFX is doing the right thing IMHO and getting the word out and securing some interest and capital for their product in advance...they have kept us up to date so far on the progress of v6 and I'm sure most of us don't doubt that it will be coming out soon

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some OS4.1 screen shots would be nice though


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@qwertz

Quote:
Well, the problem with DiscreetFX is that it's all about announcements.

Announcements is the only thing you have before there's something material to present and sell. They are also a way of showing that the company and its project are alive.

However, the keyword here is "moderation", and in this regard I am with qwertz. Publishing THREE announcements in a week when you actually have little to offer is too much, and does not look good.

@DiscreetFX

I really wish you all the best, I'm also looking forward to buying product from you - but I think you should plan your marketing and PR strategies more carefully. I don't mean to teach you a lesson in here; you can send me a PM if you want to discuss this.


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I'm looking for a 3D package that runs on OS 4 in native PPC code. Is Aladdin 5 PPC? There's something kind of odd about this offer. It's a weekend and everything, including DiscreteFX, is closed. There aren't any prices and nobody is answering the phone. Talk about abandoned and lonely.

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There will probably be a better Aladdin 5 offer from DiscreetFX next month These promotions have been here quite often.

But I am looking forward to see v6.0 for AmigaOS.

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@Troels

No your wrong, this will be the last offer.


@thinkchip


Aladdin 4D 5.0 is not PPC, that will be 6.0 which is an extensive re-write that is full PowerPC native. Give us a call toll-free, we are open.


@zErec


http://www.discreetfx.com/contact.html


@gerograph

Your right no ROI for Aladdin 4D in sight for a long while. We invest in the Amiga market to set an example and stimulate development for a more positive future in the years to come. It would already be available but the code was not very portable to PPC and multi-platform. We had to re-write many lines of code sad to say. This is not what we were told going into the project. There is a light at the end of the tunnel though.

@All

Anyone that buys Aladdin 4D is helping fund development of future feature rich versions for modern Amiga systems. You don't have to do it of course but you want new native applications right?

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remains yet to be proven. So _once_ it is ported to OS4 or Morphos, it will be news. But until that happens there's really nothing interesting about it except that it's spam. Thanks for your understanding.

+1

What's wrong is that it's been like this since over a year !
And yet nothing happened... That's enough...

He seem to be ready to do anything to get money out of the 12 years old sources he bought... Everytime something new happens: Acer, whatever...

I boycott him until I see Aladdin *native* released for MOS, AROS or OS4. And of course I'm talking about a full working release, not a screenshot, video, demo, whatever...

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