little error :)

Are the issue 84 (May/Juny 2010)

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I know that it annoing to hear, but, still no color versions, still retro-black-white-pages => no subscriptions from me :( Hope some day it will be in color (like for example, 5 weeks ago done poland paper magazine - full colored).

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Perhaps they could have color version in PDF for subscribers, would that be enough?

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@kas1e

> Hope some day it will be in color

without enough subscribers? i think never.

> like for example, 5 weeks ago done poland paper magazine - full colored)

yes, but we have 2x more pages.

@KimmoK

> Perhaps they could have color version in PDF for subscribers, would that be enough?

ahm, we dont have PDF-Versions for subscribers.

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I just trying to point, that some ppls (like i am), do not want to be a "retro", and be like zx-spectrum fans, with black-color magazines. Amiga always was a multimedia/color/sound assotiation, so, it's pretty sad to step back.

But that is imho of course, and as i can see, some amigans like even black-white versions if compare with nothing :)

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Everybody wants and likes colorful magazines, but according to Amiga Future is very hard to achieve, due to luck of subscriptions, so send your subscriptions now.

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I better prefer to make just donation, but really not want to have in hands black-color magazine. I fully for support AmigaFuture, and i want to help Andreas, etc, but really not in interest to read anything in death/die colors :) (no fan, no smile, just black-color stuff, like retro-shmetro-die) :)

@andreas
can you say, how many money you need for every issue to make it colorfull ? Just real number. If it's not so big piece of money, imho many of us will just donation to it, to make it happenes.

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oh, cant say a 100% real number.

i think for the german issue 200 one year subscriber and for the english 300 1 year subscribers. more as 50% with CoverCD.

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@kas1e
You must have completely missed the Total Amiga magazine - very good, but it too was completely B&W (except for front/back cover, and they usually put colour screenshots of things that benefit from colour there).

Yes, a few pages of colour would be nice, but most of the time I don't really notice any problem with it being B&W.

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@ChrisH

Having helped with the North American Total Amiga printing and distribution I can tell you it is all about volume.

For low-volume runs (i.e. in the hundreds to low thousand-ish) the only option is a fancy colour copier. Very expensive. That is why only colour cover.

With higher volumes you get into offset printing which has a large startup cost but much lower per-copy costs.

The point at which offset printing makes sense varies based on volumes, number of pages, subscription prices, etc...

@ AndreasM

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little error :) Are the issue 84 (May/June 2010)

Corrected.

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I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

you'd have hated Jeff Walker's JAM!

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@gregthecanuck

100% correct. more copies make the single copy cheaper.

@Moxee

thanks

@yoodoo2

???

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I'll wait your new issue as always with big impatience of know new things about the Amiga.

JAM (Just Amiga Monthly) was a black and white magazine back in the 90s. It looked as though Jeff photocopied it on a 1970s machine.

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ahh, never see it.

black/white are normal in the 90s.

many german Amiga mags are inside complete or a part in b/w. english mags i dont know.

color are not the first important thing what we would change. better more pages. :)

1 year full color cost us 5.000+ Euro more.
for this money we can make many, many pages more in b/w.

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@ AndreasM

I think you are putting out a fine magazine as it is!

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I think you are putting out a fine magazine as it is!

+1

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