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Software News   Software News : (BETA)Driver for modern nVidia cards available in AROS.
   posted by deadwood on 20-May-2010 23:13:59 (8585 reads)
The Gallium3D bounty brought to AROS a modern implementation of OpenGL library as well as a hardware accelerated 3D driver for nVidia cards. As an extension to this project, a new 2D driver is being developed basing on the same Nouveau project as the 3D driver. Currently this new driver in BETA version is available in AROS nightly builds.

The driver supports all generation of nVidia GeForce cards (starting at the old GF1 series up to and including the GF9 series). The support for different output types (VGA, TV, DVI and LVDS) and automatic video modes recognition using DDC is available. (supported modes up to 1920x1200 depending on video card and display configuration)

The planned work on this driver will focus around improving the speed of usage by implementing more 2D acceleration and integrating the 3D driver so that a complete support for nVidia cards is available in one module.

These topics are currently being actively worked on and will be added soon. In the meantime I already encourage everyone to get the latest nightly build and try the driver by selecting "AROS (NVidia Nouveau graphics)" option on Grub boot menu. There is also a tested nightly build available at this location

If you would like to support work on this driver or on 3D support in AROS, please consider donating:
http://www.power2people.org/bounty_033.html

NOTE: During booting AROS, the driver will turn off the monitor - the monitor will be turned on at the end of booting (please wait until CDROM stops its activity)
    

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Re: (BETA)Driver for modern nVidia cards available in AROS.
Posted on 21-May-2010 4:39:42
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When do you think AROS will reach to a point that screen resolution, refresh rate, etc be determined inside the operating system and not during boot up,like Linux, Windows and Macintosh? Also when do you think there will be an AROS startup screen like Windows 7, XP and Vista? Thanks in advance.

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@Foody

Now, in this very newsitem. You choose the resolution inside AROS with this driver.

This is the best news for AROS in a long time, and later when 2D and 3D support of the driver is combined it will be perfect.

@Everybody,
Go get your Nvidia card. Your missing out here

And thanks again Deadwood, amazing work you've done !


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Go get your Nvidia card. Your missing out here


i have an nvidia 8500 and exactly because of this card, not even linux can run on my pecee


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I have GF8400 GS and it works with this driver.


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Congratulations!

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Congratulations guys! This is a cool accomplishment.

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The most basic acceleration has been added and it is almost comparable to VESA displays, cant wait for full 2D acceleration!!

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Good job!


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When do you think AROS will reach to a point that screen resolution, refresh rate, etc be determined inside the operating system and not during boot up,like Linux, Windows and Macintosh?

You can change resolution without a reboot with Window XP, Windows Vista and Windows 7.

Last edited by Hammer on 21-May-2010 at 10:45 AM.


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This is certainly good news for AROS. But it casts a shadow on things like AmigaOS4, where right now we can only use a Radeon. And have no nVidia support. Don't even know if A1 Linux supports it.

And 2d and 3d acceleration with OpenGL certainly boosts AROS performance factor, and again a shadow is cast on AmigaOS4, with incomplete hardware acceleration and only a subset of OpenGL emulated through an API.

I don't know how well MorphOS is doing. But given AROS is 64-bit already. I could guess it will gain quad core support soon.

I am starting to wonder if OS4 and MOS will still be around. AROS with no commercial backing (AFAIK) is jumping ahead in leaps and bounds. We won't see a "MOS4" happen any time soon. But will an "AROS4", "ARMOS", or even "ARMOS4" occur in future?

If you know what I mean.

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Any way of porting this to OS4, or are we limited by this x86 VESA BIOS initialization crap..?!


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Excelent work guys, I'm making a donation for this.

@Hypex

You're right, but those are the laws of free market competition. You can't ask AROS to stop kicking ass!

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Will a rolling AROS gather no MOS? pun intended


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@Deniil715

Since both Uboot and SmartFirmware include x86 emulators to initialize regular x86 graphic cards I don't think BIOS is a problem.


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@Foody

Now, in this very newsitem. You choose the resolution inside AROS with this driver.

This is the best news for AROS in a long time, and later when 2D and 3D support of the driver is combined it will be perfect.


But you still have the resolution choice through GRUB menu. I mean the whole GRUB menu removed all together and the resolution, refresh rate all of that (instead of it being in GRUB) be determined inside AROS, using the drivers inside AROS and options inside AROS like modern operating systems. I am looking forward for that. NO GRUBS all together, I am also looking forward for a startup screen like OpenSusue, Windows XP, 7, VIsta, 95/98 and so on.

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@deadwood

Nice work.

@Hypex

Quote:
This is certainly good news for AROS. But it casts a shadow on things like AmigaOS4, where right now we can only use a Radeon. And have no nVidia support. Don't even know if A1 Linux supports it.

And 2d and 3d acceleration with OpenGL certainly boosts AROS performance factor, and again a shadow is cast on AmigaOS4, with incomplete hardware acceleration and only a subset of OpenGL emulated through an API.


I'm working on 2D drivers for the newer Radeon HD cards, and I will shift my focus to the 3D side once I'm done.

Hans


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Any way of porting this to OS4, or are we limited by this x86 VESA BIOS initialization crap..?!


That depends on how the display resolutions are set up. If they have an nVidia specific 2D driver that sets up the display output then using that code as a basis for an OS4 driver would be possible. If they're using the VESA BIOS, then you're back to needing an x86 emulator to do this. It's not impossible, but it is a fair bit of work.

I wouldn't call it "porting" because the resulting code will be very different from the original due to the different graphics driver APIs.

I'd welcome it if someone decided to have a go at creating nVidia drivers for OS4.

Hans


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@Foody

Sorry I don't see the problem with GRUB. I edit the GRUB menu as I want it to be.
When 2D and 3D is combined in this driver then I'll edit my menu and leave it with two boot options. Windows and AROS (Nouveau NVIDIA) and that's it.
It's no harder than editing startup-sequence.

If I wouldn't want Windows to multiboot then I could just set GRUB countdown to zero seconds and I would not even see the GRUB menu before booting.

And the boot up picture I guess can be had with a 3rd party software exactly as you had to do it on legacy Amigas. Anyway AROS boots so fast on new hardware that it's pointless to have a boot up picture, me thinks. It wouldn't be on for more than 5 secs maybe.


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@Foody

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Also when do you think there will be an AROS startup screen like Windows 7, XP and Vista?


To bad I'm under mini-NDA else I could have said...

;)


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@Hans & all

But how come there are sources available for nVidia now then..?
Wasn't the problem with never-being-able-to-have-nVidia-support-on-OS4 that they kept the specs to them selves and at the same time didn't want to make the drivers themselves?


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