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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 1-Aug-2010 20:12:23
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 1-Aug-2010 20:51:39
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Good work, Davy ! _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 1-Aug-2010 21:06:19
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| good to see an Aros port and later an morphos port. AE for everyone :) |
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 2-Aug-2010 7:05:19
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 2-Aug-2010 7:38:46
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| @Davy
Great work !
We need more Developers making their Applications Multi-Platform.
Isolation doesnt help anyone ! |
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 2-Aug-2010 9:05:47
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| Isolation ? Its timeconsuming so not strange many programs arent multiplatform. Ofcourse depends on the software how easy it is to port. Just see jahc when trying to fix his software to work on aros etc. But ofcourse for the enduser its lovely multiplatform :) |
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 2-Aug-2010 10:22:36
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| @kicko
of course its time consuming and developers need different Hardware also, but they get a much bigger user base and the program is probably more bug free. |
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 2-Aug-2010 11:30:56
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| @Heinz
I agree there. The most problematic part is that you are bound to the API that all platforms support (lowest common denominator) unless the developer is prepared to spend a lot of time on platform-specific code. You quickly get yourself into the choices of MUI vs. Reaction etc. Luckily, AE4 was just using gadtools and basic intuition with just one exception (a Reaction image class) which immediately caused lots of extra work on AROS since a workaround had to be written.
I am very pleased at least with the AmiDevCpp environment, which allows me to edit and build for OS4, MOS and AROS from within one application, safely and comfortably on my Windows machine. That definately makes maintaining different platforms much easier. I can recommend it to everyone. _________________ Audio Evolution http://www.audio-evolution.com
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 2-Aug-2010 12:02:29
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 3-Aug-2010 0:23:30
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 3-Aug-2010 5:37:17
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| @nikosidis
Nice choice of song you demoed to AE with =) One of my fav of "Satch"
@DaveAE
Thanks for the support for all the Amigasystems ;) I wish more would follow your step! |
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 3-Aug-2010 7:37:06
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| @Heinz
LOL Yea right "Multiplatform" you call supporting AmigaOS,MorpgOS and AROS multiplatform ??? how many extra potential customers would that generate? 1000?
if we want multiplatform we should get Qt framework on our platform. It's actually something Hyperion should look into if they want to make development attractive on AmigaOS and on top of that eventually a new Workbench that makes it easer to develop UI stuff on. Really hard for a outsider to get in to developing on AmigaOS. Last edited by Muffin on 03-Aug-2010 at 07:39 AM.
_________________ _________________________________________________ --Regards Muffin --Amiga a Brave New World!
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 3-Aug-2010 7:47:01
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| @Muffin
I think he meant multiplatform in a more narrow scope. Multiplatform between the all the 3 "Amiga" compatible systems.
Your idea would maybe be a good start to broaden out view though. _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 3-Aug-2010 10:51:52
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| @Manu and Muffin
Yes, but you know how things work in Amigaland. If you TALK about porting QT, all you'll get are harsh comment from the "no, please don't bring alien things into AmigaOS, otherwise AmigaOS won't be AmigaOS anymore, since it's not the Amiga way" and so on. If you DO a QT port instead and release it, you'll get dozens of new applications, many coders saying thank you, and everyone here will claim you their hero. So, if anyone is interested in porting QT, please port QT. |
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 3-Aug-2010 11:06:49
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| @Manu
Yes i know, i couldn't resit .
I hope that one day there will be a proper developer programme with an official website where you could find everything you need in terms of documentation,turorial & environment set up etc (like the Qt site) but i guess it's a bit early since Hyperion recently got definite control over AmigaOS and its future and of cause it's a money issue as well. _________________ _________________________________________________ --Regards Muffin --Amiga a Brave New World!
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 3-Aug-2010 13:39:28
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| @paleone
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So, if anyone is interested in porting QT, please port QT. |
Something like this? |
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 3-Aug-2010 16:00:10
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| @paolone
But with QT, you'll lose all the identity of AmigaOS and its advantages in the process, especially if you plan to have QT as your main OS toolkit. If you only plan to have it as some emergency toolkit for some couple QT apps (because you're unable to port them properly), then it's a different matter, but still a poor solution (just slightly better than using X11).
But what's the point of having some sub-standard posix+QT clone, when you can have a real one that works properly? The main reason to use AmigaOS nowadays resides in what makes it unique, and that includes its GUI in particular. The idea of abandoning the OS identity and strengths for some random toolkit is just admitting you're behind the others, and tha you can just follow their tracks blindly. In that case, you might wonder why you develop an OS in the first place. Last edited by Fab on 03-Aug-2010 at 04:02 PM. Last edited by Fab on 03-Aug-2010 at 04:01 PM.
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 3-Aug-2010 19:06:49
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| Recorded my first few tracks with AE tonight on AROS. My Sound Blaster Live Audigy card seems to work fine with it. Just thought maybe some of you have the same card so now you know it works. _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: Audio Evolution 4 for AROS released Posted on 4-Aug-2010 6:21:09
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| @Fab
What do you mean by losing the "identity" ? look or the feeling? Qt can be made to look like the GUI in AmigaOS. We have MUI that is widely used and no one is complaining that you loose identity by using it.
I understand that you get a certain trade of by using another framework and i like the feel of the Amiga GUI. But i also believe that we have the core of the Amiga OS to thank for that, MUI/Reaction e.t.c gets the same snappy feeling and i believe that a proper port of Qt would benefit from our OS.
The main reason (for me at least )to have Qt on AmigaOS is to have the benefit to develop for more than one platform, we can't afford to alienate our self from the rest of the world (should we scrap OpenGL and develop something of our own?) .To me it's not about to be able to port Qt related stuff to amiga its the other way around and to have a more rapid development API. And no it shouldn't be a main OS toolkit, just an option MUI. _________________ _________________________________________________ --Regards Muffin --Amiga a Brave New World!
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