@walkero
I'll certainly give it a go sometime, but from my experience on utilitybase.com I found it very useful to get help from non-OS4 programmers (as there is still lots of overlap). Maybe if there were enough OS4 programmers (with the spare time to help others) this wouldn't be an issue.

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@ChrisH

UtilityBase was good but it kept getting infected with some malware or something which made it impossible to use in some circumstances.

@ChrisH
Yep, agree. I say the same on amigans.net

@Steady
Malware its not only one problem. There is also broken tags for now, not working counter of views and so on. I try to write to Nicomen 2 or 3 mails, annoy him on irc, make a topic on UB , say him that "if you can't fix all of this, give me admin rights and i will do everything normal", but .. nothing from him and as result users start to not use UB anymore. That real sad, because site was very informative and well designed.

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@ ChrisH
I really believe that you are right that not only OS4 developers could contribute with solutions and help in OS4Coding. And you know what? We want them in OS4Coding because we believe that they are going to be helpful. But they must be sure that what they say will work on OS4. The benefit for this will be the gathering of information only for OS4 developing. You ask, people help, it works. Just like that.

Don't forget that the forum is just the one half site of OS4Coding. The other half is the blogging part. Everyone should know that what they write there is only for OS4Developing matters. And visitors are going to know the same thing. It's good for a website to have it's own specific character, don't you think?

Maybe after sometime we see that this is not working. But we have to try, don't you think?

@all
I believe that Nicomen did a great job with UB. But the lack of time made him not able to support it. A few months ago we talked and I proposed him to help with UB, too. But this didn't work, unfortunately.

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@walkero

Assuming that "non OS4-developers" means MorphOS/Aros/3.x-developers one has to ask why they would want to join such a site ? And how tare they gonna make sure that there tips will work under OS4 ?

There is a general problem in this community (and may I add that it's most apparent on the red site), everybody wants to be king of his own private close-circle ant-hill (aka website) while noone fixes the existing ones.

Don't know whats wrong with UB, but even if it can't be fixed, an new replacement website should focus on the things that made UB a success and do them even better.

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>but from my experience on utilitybase.com I found it very useful to get help from non-OS4 programmers

Maybe we are getting sick of being treated like scum and 2nd-class Amigans by the OS4 dev community?

@Kronos
Yep, I think the same: "for what aos3/mos/aros programmers go at this site, when its only os4 related?" . UB was the great example how to make good looking and informative site for all the amiga developers, and imho will make sense to make just the same, but just better.

@Minuous
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Maybe we are getting sick of being treated like scum and 2nd-class Amigans by the OS4 dev community?

I think you trying to see thinks which not present at all. He say "non-OS4 programmers" just because news about aos4 developer site. And everything there in meaning that we discuss aos4 site and will it make succes or not. Will for aos4 developers help other developers or not. Just the same if someone will make an aos3.x developer site, or mos, or aros, and there we will discuss thinks like "will non-mos/non-aos3/non-aros developers help there or not". Just try to be more open-minded, and then ppls will not say for you what you do not want to hear.

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@Minuous
Don't see it this way. I'm just trying to make a website for developers, which focus on a specific platform. I could make a generic website for amiga developers, like UB is, but I didn't want to make a competitor to this fine website that I also use. But some of the developers or the newest ones might want to move forward.

About MOS developers they have their own websites too. If we didn't have so many camps and so different programming matters, like GUI, or Graphics or various APIs, then things might be great. But we don't.

NOONE IS 2nd-class Amigan OR SCUM. At least this is not my opinion.

I will say again that UB is a great website, with lots of content, user friendly and supports or the Amiga platforms. It became successful for all the above and because it is still the only one out there.

But, if you check around, a lot of great developers create their own websites with tutorials or blogs. Think about having their own place in a specific site with a specific subject. Guess that you might want to find something, and all the information is inside OS4Coding.net.

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@kas1e:

Yeah, that is a shame. I really found it useful in the past. A combination of that site in full working order and this new one could potentially be really good.