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Software News   Software News : AEROS - Linux/AROS distro status update
   posted by phoenixkonsole on 1-Oct-2011 21:52:55 (6680 reads)
Hi,

AresOne and friends will get a new standard OS.
Actually i plan to have it done for christmas.

There are only a few quirks left. Nothing dramatic.



Status update:
Offers the same as Broadway 0.6 plus the following Linux apps:

Abiword
Pitivi
Ooffice Impress (found no alternative)
Ooffice Draw (well it installed it as part of Impress)
Inkscape
Gnumeric
Gimp (Gimpshop is to outdated)
Blender 2.49b
Chomium Browser has been updated
Wine
PearPC 0.5 well just want to try it later : )

Linux parts are all updated.. experimenting with Wifi now.

After this i need to include Linux-Prefs into the AROS side.

EDIT: added Midnight Commander

Since the AresOne comes with AmigaForever it will allow to have the virtual Amiga running in coherency mode. (Thanks to janusUAE).

So you will be able to run Linux-, AROS-, AmigaOS 3.x-, Windows-apps and more at the same time.


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Re: AEROS - Linux/AROS distro status update
Posted on 1-Oct-2011 22:14:28
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: ) please ignore my typos (also those in the video)
I am busy and doing the editing besides working on other things ; )


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Interesting way to go & provide AROS with heavyweight apps


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Yeah.
1. I can use AROS + everything i need for daily tasks.
2. ARM Platform get's an faster alternative to Ubuntu.
3. AROS Developer will get a better place to work and test : )
4. AROS can be used on more HW with full 3D and much faster drivers.
5. AMC can control the HW (sleep, poweroff, poweron scheduled and so on
and more..


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All I can say is that Broadway way a nice Distro while it lasted.

I have no use for another Linix distro, but I can see it being useful to developers how don't have a computer that can run virtualbox, or need to cross compile binaries.

Back to running AROS nightly build for me I guess as Linux on my AROS netbook is even slower than Windows 7, thats why I run Windows XP Pro and AROS on it in the first place.


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I am sure AEROS is also on your HW faster.
There is no overhead from Linux. And there is no sluggish Linux desktop running.
It take a few seconds longer to boot as a native AROS but as soon it is up it flies.
The WindowManager i use is running on a 486... so i don't know which Netbook you are using ; )

I would say my Snow Leopards feels fast but AEROS is faster.
Well just wait and see. You can try it from USB later.
Gimp takes longer to start and Blender too while my mac should be faster. 2.8GHZ Sempron vs. 2.53GHZ core2duo.


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Interesting project!

However, I never liked Broadway desktop theme. I prefer something with design more like AspireOS.

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A theme and a icon-set is by far the easiest thing to change.
Well some like it some not. I am not here to stay in competition with Paolo or Nikolaos.
Everything has a pro and con. One is a bit more stable, one is more retro, one is more modern, one is more mac. One aims for everyone, one for Aspire, one for AresOne.
And so on.

In short:
Everyone can find his "AROS" he likes the most. : )

Next native Broadway will be smaller again thanks to EMULA.

AEROS wil compete with Linux/Os X/Windows not AROS. I think the guys from Linux action show will like it.


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[Edit: Removed comment - Trolling]

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It comes with AmigaOS 3.x compatibility.
So what?

EDIT:
Would you be so kind to tell me what is the benefit to have you as part of an(y) community?

Constructive critics? -no
Beta-testing something? -no
Motivating others? - no
And i am not talking about AROS here.

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Thanks for posting this phoenixkonsole. I find it very Amigarelated and I look forward to try it out. Try to ignore the previous offensive retard.

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I think this is great! Amiga on the latest hw, dream come true!

Add dolpin + AmigaOS4 and you have my favourite for x86!!!!

Surely, this is the only acceptable way to do the COMMODORE OS, right????

My thumb is up!



btw. this "fastest Linux on earth and AROS at it's best" should sell

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@Wizzard_o

Quote:
Again, how the hell is this Amiga news?


I must strongly disagree with your opinion. It is realy nice idea - Linux distribution with hosted AROS as its desktop enviroment. Sure, it is not enough "Amiga" for you or me, but I will try it for sure.

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@phoenixkonsole
I will be quite happy if proven wrong about the speed issue.

I can see how haveing a pre-setup AROS Linux version can be very useful to developers I am just not sure if fits with how I use AROS at pressent.


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His signature says it all: Quote:
Signature Amiga OS4.x, The genuine and ONLY continuation of Amiga OS.

So i guess we have another OS4.x fanboy.

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@Tomas

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So i guess we have another OS4.x fanboy.


He is probably fanboy, but I fuly agree with his signature. Do you think there is other OS than OS4 that can claim it is continuation of Amiga OS?

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This project might end up to be the most successfull Amiga like OS for ages.

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Quote:
He is probably fanboy, but I fuly agree with his signature. Do you think there is other OS than OS4 that can claim it is continuation of Amiga OS?

Officially it might not be, but this guy based on comments dosent think this should have even been posted on amigaworld.

Personally i don't care about name and all the amiga clones are true to the original OS imo.

And i must say this one looks very interesting as well if they managed to keep it responsive even when running on top of linux.

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Ah so your an AROS fan-boy, it works both ways you know...


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I don't get it. Is it AROS/Linux dual boot, AROS hosted on Linux as a VM or what?


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It is a minimal Linux without Desktopenvironment like KDE or Gnome..
Those two are too slow and have too much latency for my taste. Especially on slow system like ARM below 1GHZ.

Also we save a lot of physical RAM if we kick them.

Instead of those "normal" Linux-desktop-environments AEROS launches straight AROS (hosted).

So a normal user would not recognize that AROS is running as kind of app on top of Linux. But in fact it does.

AROS hosted can read the same filesystems as the underlaying linux.
You can run you AROS apps like on native AROS but also you can run Linux-stuff if you need.

I am now trying to use the LInux trashcan inside of AROS. So that deleted files will be added to LInux trashcan and can be recovered if needed.

Thanks to this bounty we will be able to use 3D acceleration provided by Linuxdrivers.
OpenGL wrapper Bounty

I am using for example official Nvidia drivers. Trust me nvidia knows there card ; )

You could compare AEROS too OS X.... a bit at least : p
A skin which hides the underlaying system and running on top of a "unix".

I have now more time for AROS : D because i can do everything i need while running it.

Another reason to make this move is that we can experiment with other stuff like 64bit at the same time. And further with Coreboot and emulation.


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