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Miscellaneous News   Miscellaneous News : AmigaOS4 programming: new article and announcement of book.
   posted by kas1e on 21-Mar-2012 22:58:26 (6797 reads)
Few months ago i start to works on some programming related book for amigaos4, and as side effect, some time before i made an small article called "GDB For Beginners", which you can read on http://os4coding.net, here.

Purposes of the whole book, its to cover amigaos4 internals, kernel internals, disassembling and debugging techniqs, ppc-assembler, utilities and tools which help when you debug programms and so on. In other words, book are not for application programmers, but mostly for the low-level coders who in interest in low-level stuff. Thorugh, i hope, it will be interesting to read and to other programmers who in interest in amigaos4.


The text of the book will be proof-readed and fixed for grammars, book will have bunch of images and all the other stuff, to make it professionaly looking and interesting to reads. Initial version will be done in the PDF, but real paper version if planned of course (through, that depends).

For all of this, your help is need it if you want to see full work to be done.

Currently i publish one more article: at this time not for very beginners, and that one cover a bit more aspects, as well as i trying to do article more proffesional, good looking and intersting to read in compare with first one. Its can be called like "example chapter", by which you can make an opinion about how book will be done, and it it worht of it at all.

The reasson to publish that article is to see, if there is interest from aos4 user base to see full book to be done, and if publishing of this kind of articles in beetwen are intersting at all, or it waste of time. So, if you found all of this worthwise, make a donation, because by donations i can see if interest is real one or not. To add, to make book proffesionaly done, i need to spend money for proof-readers, for proffessional painters outside (becase amiga painters have no time mostly for making quality stuff in which they not involved directly).

Purposes of new article are to cover some areas which wasnt covers anythere else, nor in SDK, nor as 3d party tutorials, and that is:

-- Differences and internals of libc (newlib in our case)
-- Differences beetwen amigaos4 and unix from programming point of view
-- Internals of ELF format on amigaos4, parsing of elfs
-- Basics of GDB and objdump
-- Programming on assembler for amigaos4 in different ways
-- and all the other small bits here and here.


You can read the article online at os4coding.net HERE or download PDF version with all the examples HERE


I know, lately there was too much bountyes and asking for donations from different persons and different kind of projects, but that how it works: if you want everything progress faster, there is need to spend something for.

Currently, i do not create any bounty for book (what i will do later), but i just want to see if it even worth to worry. Planes to get starting donations in summs of 200$ (money will be spends beetwen me and Trixie (who do proof-reading and grammar corrections). Once we will reach 200, i will create a bounty which will exactly cover the book and all the stuff.

Bonty will be necessary as there will need some money for proof-readers and those who will fix english grammars, for graphics painters (to make some first/end pages), and as i say before, to make everything going fast, i mostly will recruit someone outside on the payment basics. There is already some work done, but sure it will be good to cover all by donations.

You also feel free to suggest the questions which will be covered in upcoming articles which can fits to the book later, if they will really worthwile to discuss deeply and worth to including to book of such kind. Plans are publish such kind of articles in meanwhile, while works on the book is ongoing.

At the end, big thanks going to Frank Wille with his never endles help, and to Trixie, who make a proof-read and gramar corrections.

Help us to make book reality, make a donation HERE

ps. i will post list of donars here, so everyone will see who do donations and how many, and once it reach starting summ, no more need it.
    

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Re: AmigaOS4 programming: new article and announcement of bo
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Hi kas1e,

We are in bad need of programming manuals. I am not much into low-level stuff, but I have question for you. If you get enough money to do this book, would you be willing or able to do a book for C++/C programming for Amiga Os4? Or is there currently a C++/C book planned or in the works?

I will be willing to donate to get some programming manuals for sure!

Thanks,

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@Yogi27
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If you get enough money to do this book, would you be willing or able to do a book for C++/C programming for Amiga Os4? Or is there currently a C++/C book planned or in the works?


There is another person already works on something like this, and his plans to make an application-based-programming book (through dunno when/if/etc). While my goal more about low-level side. Currently working on the chapter about hacking of sobjes in realtime (via some patching in memory, etc), but that all mostly for understanding internals, not something which one can recomend for beginners.


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Very interested in reading your book! Donation made.


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@all
Starting summ is reached, there is our heros:

1. Jesper Klingvall - 130$
2. Barry Steinbergh - 20$
3. Gianluca Girelli - 20$
4. Mikael Rantanen - 12$
5. Dean Hallman - 10$
6. Steen Jessen - 8$
7. Emil Oppeln-Bronikowski - 5$

total summ: 205$

Thank you all a lot, no more need it. Seems when project is worth, money feels pretty fast, what point out that all of this indeed worth to worry.

Thanks one more time, and wait for new articles while work on the book is ongoing !

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A remarkable work, I'm sure it will help many developers and attract others, well done Roman


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An OS4 programming book is an excellent idea! I will definitely purchase a printed copy. Donation sent.

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Not only will we donate to this bounty but we would be glad to help proof read as well.

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Donation made!

I can't wait for the book. Excellent work.

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kas1e, if you want, I can help you with Kindle version.


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@kas1e

Excellent initiative.

One suggestion for the PDF version though; please remove the grey shadow from below the text. On headings I could "possibly" get away with it, however, for the main body text, it just gives me a headache trying to read it.


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Great initiative, developers' documentation is badly needed, even if only in electronic format!
This also makes me think of what happened with this other project, which should've been less lowlevel oriented so with a possibly wider audience We need both!!
Don't want to hijack the thread though, i'll make a donation on next payday.


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You do a lot of good things for the platform. Donation send.


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Good work.

Donation made and now you for sure have reach $200 so you can start working on the book and
we can contribute with more $. :)

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@opi
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kas1e, if you want, I can help you with Kindle version.

Yep, thanks, will have it in mind (currently a bit too early to worry)

@all
Thanks for support, i feel that starting summ will collects. That pretty good, as its really motivate and point out that all is worth.

@skuggan
Woah ! Thanks ! That what i call "real deal and not just words on the forums".

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Interesting project, congrats to all people involved!
I am interested in purchasing the final book, paper or electronic format, it doesn' t really matter to me.

A book more at "application" level would be great as well!

I will give my money contribution as soon as I can.


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Yep, thanks, will have it in mind (currently a bit too early to worry)


Sure, but there are things you can do today to ease the pain later. I'll e-mail you after work, if you don't mind.

PS. donated, and I'll donate even more if someone from MorphOS would contribute (Grzegorz?) with MUI/Ambient part of equation to make this book complete.


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@ka1se:
I was wrong but NOW you have reached you goal. I found some $$ I didn't know I had on my paypal account. There was pretty much actually so I feel I need to spend the the rest on other Amiga projects. :)

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@skuggan
Stop it ! Or i will start to think that there is possible to make money on amiga ! :) Big thanks of course.

@all
Thanks a lot. 200$ done , no more need it, all of this worth for sure.

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@ka1se:
There is money to be made on Amiga. Just hang in there and you will see. :)

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nice bounty!, will look for the next one


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