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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 10:28:35
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| Tested this briefly and it seems there is a significant speed increase when loading and displaying pages, but image handling off-screen and when scrolling back seems very slow. Don't remember that from previous versions.
This is a nice update none the less. _________________ Common sense - So rare it's almost like a super power
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 11:28:48
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You beat me!
Slower images might be because now they are decoded when they are displayed, rather than when they are loaded. You might need to increase the memory cache size (the image cache is some % of that). _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 11:38:16
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| @Chris_Y
Increasing the memory cache didn't seem to help. I'll investigate it further. _________________ Common sense - So rare it's almost like a super power
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 13:44:54
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| @Chris_Y
nice update, pages do seem to load more quickly. but the redraw during scrolling is noticeably worse, nearly as bad as MUIOWB. i've mucked about with the redraw parameters, boosting them and also trying to set to zero. the memory cache is 64MB, and increasing showed no difference.
i still prefer this version to v2.8, but if the scrolling issues could be addressed somehow, that would be terrific. is there any data i can capture for you that would aid further development towards the final v2.9 release?
-- eliyahu _________________ "Physical reality is consistent with universal laws. When the laws do not operate, there is no reality. All of this is unreal."
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 13:54:55
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| @Chris_Y
Nice update. Noticeably faster.
Couple of questions:
1. How do you change the font size in the Hotlist & Cookies windows? The fonts are tiny and I can't seem to change them. 2. Can a URL be opened in the current window/tab when selecting from the Hotlist? It always opens a new window.
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 14:01:57
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| @Sandpiper
1. I think the only way is by increasing the "default font size" option. You might need to save and restart NetSurf for it to take effect in those windows. 2. Because the hotlist window has no concept of what the "current window" is, the only way is by dragging the bookmark from the hotlist into the window you want it to open in.
@Eliyahu
Is Fast Scrolling enabled? _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 14:24:23
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| @Chris_Y
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1. I think the only way is by increasing the "default font size" option. You might need to save and restart NetSurf for it to take effect in those windows |
Tried that. Doesn't seem to have an effect on Hotlist or Cookie windows.
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2. Because the hotlist window has no concept of what the "current window" is, the only way is by dragging the bookmark from the hotlist into the window you want it to open in. |
That works. Thanks. |
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 15:36:33
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| @Chris_Y
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Is Fast Scrolling enabled? |
yup. sure is. should i disable it?
-- eliyahu _________________ "Physical reality is consistent with universal laws. When the laws do not operate, there is no reality. All of this is unreal."
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 16:23:49
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Um, you could try.
Hold on.. 64MB for memory cache? How much memory does your graphics card have? If you have "cache native versions" set then NetSurf stores bitmaps in graphics card RAM up to 25% of the memory cache size, add on tile size x * y * 4 plus anything else in use. If gfx mem runs out then everything grinds to a halt as OS4 swaps things out to main memory, which could be your problem.
Add %mg to your WB title bar to check if it is. Last edited by Chris_Y on 15-Apr-2012 at 04:38 PM.
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 16:36:12
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Tried that. Doesn't seem to have an effect on Hotlist or Cookie windows. |
You're right, it has been fixed to 11pt text size. This means it will be affected by the DPI setting, so please check that is set correctly (in prefs => rendering => vertical resolution). _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 17:25:32
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| damn!, this is getting really good ! , i will try and use it as much as possible to compare results between the 3 other browsers i use.
wonderfull work Chris!
Chris: my website www.amigaguru.com does strange things with netsurf , have a looksie :) Last edited by Toaks on 15-Apr-2012 at 05:32 PM.
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 18:03:52
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| Thanks for the update.
When i try to delete the netsurf drawer from ram: , dopus complains the .png images in Netsurf/Resources/Themes/Default are in use.
If they just were locked i could use unlock file from aminet or scout to unlock them but these shows "in use" even if i quit netsurf. So i cant delete them until reboot.
I didnt install netsurf, i just tried it from ram. |
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 19:18:17
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| In general it would be nice to be able to run software from RAM disk effortlessly, since they are often just a few percent of the available RAM and people are starting to use SSD as well. _________________ : AmigaOneXE (unmod.) 750FX/512 MB +stuff & AmigaOS 4.(0|1) : A1200/68060&96MB/SCSI/EM1200-Voodoo3 & OS 3.5 : A500/1MB : Pegasos (ff) 512 MB & MorphOS Praise seitan.
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 15-Apr-2012 21:14:49
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| @Toaks
Looks fine here, what are you seeing?
@Kicko
Any images I load should get freed automatically when the window is disposed (there are exceptions). Is it really all the images? That would suggest bitmap.image's built-in caching is keeping the files open. _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 16-Apr-2012 18:51:10
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| @chris 3 seperate windows pop up here instead of one, the toolbar on the left pops up in its own "non close able window" etc. _________________ See my blog and collection website! . https://www.blog.amigaguru.com
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 16-Apr-2012 20:08:22
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| For me run just fine and speed is OK! Faster than before..only what is missing like Kicko say is javascript .. _________________ --
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 16-Apr-2012 20:21:36
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That isn't v2.9... or even 2.8.
Please re-download and reinstall! _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 16-Apr-2012 20:47:35
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| Sadly i don't get em to run:
- The provided Installer breaks after some steps in the Installation process. I had to replace the Installer with the one provided by AmigaOS4.1 (in Utilities) - Netsurf is crashing with "some elf thing" says grim reaper directly on startup
I was using all shared objects except the last one, because its filesize was much more smaller... _________________ I´m back in 2023 on Classic Amiga with my A1200/Blizzard1230IB@50Mhz, 32MB RAM, AmigaOS3.2 and ROMs, Indivision AGA MK3, Author of Amiga-Flipclock (OS4)
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 16-Apr-2012 20:54:33
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my mistake, i had it installed 2 places , i tried 2.9 first and then i posted here and i fired it up again a little later and... umm it was 2.7.
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Re: NetSurf 2.9 - Fast CSS capable web browser Posted on 16-Apr-2012 20:59:33
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- There isn't a copy of Installer in the archive, so I don't know where you are getting that from. - "Some elf thing" isn't an error message! Please be more specific. _________________ "Miracles we do at once, the impossible takes a little longer" - AJS on Hyperion Avatar is Tabitha by Eric W Schwartz
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