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software MorphOS   software MorphOS : Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
   posted by pampers on 1-Nov-2012 13:19:22 (6266 reads)
MorphOS.pl in co-operation with Mark 'BigFoot' Olsen is pleased to announce that bounty for MorphOS port to a PowerMac G5 has been opened. Please read more for bounty details.

Read more...


The bounty goal is to port MorphOS on PowerMac G5 computer. Bounty requirements are as follows:

The port of MorphOS must work on one model of PowerMac G5: A1047 (7,3 - M9747LL/A).
Support of other PowerMac G5 models is not preculded, but is not required.
Support of Bluetooth module and AirPort (WiFi) module is not required.
Only one CPU will be supported.
Bounty donations are not related to MorphOS license. Any contributor wanting to buy a MorphOS license for PowerMac G5, will pay the regular price.
Bounty timeframe: 3 months after the programmer receives the machine (see below).
The bounty minimal sum is set to 3000 EUR.
The port will be developed by Mark "Bigfoot" Olsen.

Co-owner of MorphOS.pl portal Wiktor "Pampers" Glowacki will contribute a PowerMac G5 machine and its shipping to the South Africa, where Mark Olsen lives currently. After bounty completes, the machine becomes a property of the bounty developer.

Feel free to contribute here: MorphOS.pl
    

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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
Posted on 1-Nov-2012 15:21:53
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Promising!

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And let that be the final ppc system supported by MorphOS before evolution :)

Some random thoughs, both bounty's (minimum) amount of money and timeframe of complettion are remarkable low. Especially in comparison to many other bounties seen in amigaland past years. And such a workload done by only one man? Amazing! Keep up the good work :)

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Some random thoughs, both bounty's (minimum) amount of money
and timeframe of complettion are remarkable low.


probably because the same developer already showed MOS running on a G5


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MorphOS.pl has already one completed bounty. Final timeframe was 8 months.


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3 months? Holy Moley.


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I would have preferred to see a bounty for a CPU that isn't a dead-end such as ARM, but it's still an improvement when compared to the cost and performance of an X1000. I suppose in Amiga-land, any development is "good" development.

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@ ferrels

I think if you multiply that bounty a a factor of roundabout ten (money and time frame) you'll get it.

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Good initiative. Albeit I am a bit undecided about the g5 myself. I would like a bit more horsepower and like the actual design of those towers, but they are big and bulky and draw quite some wattage - I rather prefer little, almost invisible computers.


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Re: Bounty for MorphOS port on PowerMac G5
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probably because the same developer already showed MOS running on a G5


Yes, bigfoot has already worked on this as a proof of concept before. He's also currently working on R300 3D drivers. They'll make a good combination with the G5 as many of these systems shipped with Radeon 9600 or 9800 video cards.
I don't know that this will actually be the last PPC project, but it is a good one, well worth pursuing. People looking for small, compact systems can still consider the Mac Mini or the Powerbook, but now we have a system that rival the X1000 in capability.

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Since I already own 3 G5 PowerMac's (2 since I have agreed to trade one of them for other computer parts) and almost every other kind of computer that MorphOS3.x can run on (gave away my G4 eMac, and I have never owned a Pegasos computer system), I am very excited about this news. So excited that I am communicating with the person who set up the bounty to offer one or more of my G5 PowerMac's plus the shipping to South Africa from the USA, to help out with this project.

I will still donate additional money to help reach the 3,000 euro bounty amount as well, as I really want MorphOS3.x running on my dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac system. That will be insanely fast MorphOS3.x system and should satisfy my need for speed for quite some time, while more demanding software applications are written to take advantage of all that power.

For those who are disappointed with this bounty, because they wanted the next port to be for a different architecture, I don't think they should be too disappointed, as this is just one person from the MorphOS Dev. Team, who appears to have volunteered to complete this bounty, and that leaves all the rest of the Team members available to work on any other parts of the OS, or porting the OS to a different architecture (though I believe that some Team members have stated publicly that it would be at least 2 years before any architecture switch could be complete).

I am extremely happy to read this news, and a bit surprised by this announcement. I had almost given up hope that a port to the G5 PowerMac would be completed, as the interest in such a port seemed to be too little, or too few of the actual Team members were interested in completing such a port.

This announcement is an early Christmas present for me, and chances are, the port will be complete before my birthday in June, so I could not be happier!


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"already showed MOS running on a G5"

Was it shown already year(s) ago?

(like with the laptop, it took some 4 years to do the port, G5 work has been ongoing as subhobby of someones hobby )


"Bounty donations are not related to MorphOS license. Any contributor wanting to buy a MorphOS license for PowerMac G5, will pay the regular price."

Some will see that as weird scenario. Pay for (HAL) bounty to then pay more for the whole OS.

But anyway, we should use similar crowd funding to get AOS4+drivers faster to new HW.

I wonder how big bounty is required to get AOS4 to MacMini?

Last edited by KimmoK on 02-Nov-2012 at 07:18 AM.
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Poster: KimmoK Date: 2-Nov-2012 7:13:09 "already showed MOS running on a G5" Was it shown already year(s) ago? (like with the laptop, it took some 4 years to do the port, G5 work has been ongoing as subhobby of someones hobby ) "Bounty donations are not related to MorphOS license. Any contributor wanting to buy a MorphOS license for PowerMac G5, will pay the regular price." Some will see that as weird scenario. Pay for (HAL) bounty to then pay more for the whole OS. But anyway, we should use similar crowd funding to get AOS4+drivers faster to new HW. I wonder how big bounty is required to get AOS4 to MacMini?


Yes, Mark "Big Foot" Olsen had already done a lot of work to show a "Proof of Concept" with MorphOS2.x booting on a dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac tower many years ago, but a statement back then said that there was no promise to ever complete a proper port of MorphOS to the G5 PowerMac towers. A little later, either Mark "Big Foot" Olsen, or another MorphOS Dev. Team member, showed another "Proof of Concept" booting of MorphOS2.x on a 2.1GHz G5 iMac, but again they released a statement that there was no promise to ever release a proper port of MorphOS on any of the G5 iMac systems.

After Mark Olsen sold his dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac computer and moved to South Africa, it was revealed that none of the MorphOS Dev. Team members owned any G5 PowerMac towers, so it was very unlikely that a port of MorphOS would ever be completed. That is why this new bounty is so surprising and such good news for those of us who have been hoping that a port of MorphOS would some day be made for any of the G5 PowerMac towers.

It may seem weird to some that the bounty does not also mean you will get an included license key for MorphOS3.1, but the bounty amount is so low and the time frame to complete it is so short, I don't think that anyone should be complaining. If you don't want to donate to the bounty, then just wait and use your money to buy a MorphOS3.1 (or 3.2) license, after the bounty is completed and the port of MorphOS3.x to one or more of the G5 PowerMac models is finished.

Lastly, I wish that Hyperion would agree to a bounty to port AmigaOS4.x to any of the G4, or G5 PPC Mac computers, so we could get more of the Classic Amiga users to consider buying a PPC computer to run the Next Gen Amiga operating systems for PPC computers.

We need all the users and specially more programmers, we can find. Now that we have so many hardware choices, we need more quality software. With good programming tools and so many different programming languages available, it is getting easier to program for all of the different Next Gen Amiga-Like platforms. Hollywood & Hollywood Designer is one example of a programming language, or tool that can cross-compile for almost any platform, so all you have to do is write your code once and you can compile it to run on AmigaOS3.x, AmigaOS4.x, MorphOS3.x, AROS, Windows, Linux & MacOSX.


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@KimmoK

So in your opinion someone who puts for example 5 euros should get a licence as well?

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Os4 port to macs will imho damage acube. But the mac laptop should be ok. As there are no laptops for os4 yet.


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Bounty would be faster achieved when people donating 100 euro would get a license. But I also would close the bounty when that 3000 is achieved so that others have to pay the full price so the whole benefits from that moment.

Otherwise I do not see myself donating that kind of amount while afterwards having to buy a license for another 110 euro.


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@pampers
"So in your opinion someone who puts for example 5 euros should get a licence as well?"

No. But this kind of positive things usually generate the negative feedback (but perhaps "Amiga" need to exist in the subject somewhere for that sh*t fest to happen).
So "someone else" might say that it should make G5 version free for anyone..

Anyway,
I'm just happy that this opportunity became available and I personally would be interested in donating towards AOS4 (HAL) port to MacMini + I would still pay for the OS licence.
(+not interested in any G5 HW at the moment)


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Excellent, I've had the same PowerMac model sitting under my desk for about a year now. I've only used it a couple of times, because it's just too slow for OSX use. On the other hand, I'll be perfect for MorphOS - that's why I bought it in the first place. These G5 machines are ridiculously cheap, even cheaper than some G4 models.

So, at least for me, this is VERY good news indeed.

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I know everyone will just laugh at me, but what if any chance of MorphOS port to the X1000?


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Very small it seems.

Low volume sales (~80-200), high effort (new cpu, peripherals, etc), low return (max 200 registrations), high investment to complete the port (buying an A1X1K), a relatively weak vmx implementation, and such computational power/performance can be bought for 100 in a G5 Mac.

And that's before any political wranglings

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I would have preferred to see a bounty for a CPU that isn't a dead-end such as ARM, but it's still an improvement when compared to the cost and performance of an X1000. I suppose in Amiga-land, any development is "good" development.

I'm with you on that Ferrels, I think many/most people would agree that the change needs to come.
Given that it's only a 3-month effort though, I'm quite happy that MorphOS will have a 'Power' machine to see us through the long cold winter of architecture change (if it comes).


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[quote...]it was revealed that none of the MorphOS Dev. Team members owned any G5 PowerMac towers[/quote]

Piru owns one.
I'm not 100% sure, but Pega-1 might as well.

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