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Hardware News   Hardware News : What's in a name?
   posted by TrevorDick on 23-Oct-2013 21:55:57 (6620 reads)
Here is your chance to help select the names for the new AmigaONE models based on the Cyrus Plus motherboard and Freescale QorIQ CPU combinations. As a result of direct feedback we are listing the 12 most popular naming groups that have been suggested.





Your chance to name the babies?

If you would like to help shape the AmigaONE’s future please select your first and second choices and email your vote to:

contact@a-eon.com with "Cyrus Plus" name in the subject line.

Trevor Dickinson
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klx300r 
Re: What's in a name?
Posted on 23-Oct-2013 22:51:36
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Trevor why not just set up an actual poll with options here or on A-Eon's site so this way voting is open and transparent rather than hidden behind closed doors?

Ultimately A-Eon will choose what it wants anyhow but at least the poll should be open for all to see IMHO

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Nice idea, but people who sign up as beta testers will also be given a vote and possibly their names on the final motherboard silkscreen.

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Re: What's in a name?
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AmigaQ ... Read Amiga chiu

my idea is more simle

AmigaQ² for the 5020
AmigaQ³ for the 5030
and so and so it can be used with X-AmigaQ² but i dont like to much the X because people if you say X thing about MacOs X or something relative to Unix or Linux

Plus have the AmigaQ will dribble the copyright problems

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Posted on 24-Oct-2013 7:17:31
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Having the new bus should continue with the X "tradition" and would be a nember as per the original machines 2000/02 where /02 is the number of cores etc.

Why not to have a premium for the best idea?

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Posted on 24-Oct-2013 8:13:41
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I think using the X rather than the A is preferable. Having an "Amiga" A4000 and an "AmigaOne" A4000 is a little confusing.
I'd be tempted to make the high end one the X2000, and the low end one the X500, and then you could release one that hardly anyone wants called the X1500 because it doesn't know whether it's high-end or low-end. :)

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Re: What's in a name?
Posted on 24-Oct-2013 9:31:01
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I would like:

Something in the name to indicate that the HW is based on POWER architecture,
so POWERAmigaONE or PowerAMIGAone or something like that.

And something that tells something about the CPU performance of the system.
so 1500/4, 2000/2, 2400/4 or 1500*4 ... or something ...
Or 060/50(~100RISC like MIPS) relative -> 1500/120, 2000/60, 2400/140, 1800/1728 ...

The naming should be future proof. So that when we have T4240 the number should show it accordingly. 1800/24 ?

And if the system has XORRO, perhaps X should be seen.
And if the system has SIMD unit, it also might be interesting to see in the name (+ ?).
And what about 64bit vs 32bit?

->
PowerAMIGAone F600 (my sam with FPGA )
PowerAMIGAone F1000 (sam460)
PowerAMIGAone X1800/2+ (for the existing nemo based)
PowerAMIGAone X1500/4
PowerAMIGAone X2000/2
PowerAMIGAone X2400/4
PowerAMIGAone X1800/24+ (T4240 based, 1800Mhz, 24 virtual cores, SIMD)

or


PowerAMIGAone F600/13 ..... (1300MIPS)
PowerAMIGAone F1000/22 .... (2200MIPS)
PowerAMIGAone X1800/76+ .... (or X1000/76+, 7600MIPS?) oops, remembered wrong
PowerAMIGAone X1500/120 ... (12 000MIPS?)
PowerAMIGAone X2000/120 ..... (12 000MIPS) oops, remembered wrong
PowerAMIGAone X2400/288 ... (28 800MIPS) oops, remembered wrong
PowerAMIGAone X1800/1728+ .. (172 800 MIPS)


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it would sound better as

AmigaOne POWER2000
AmigaOne POWER4000...

or AmigaOne PWR2000


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AmigaOne A1500
A2000/20
A2000/40


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Re: What's in a name?
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@KimmoK

Ditch the Power, and I'm with you on the rest


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All names are wrong, it's all based on the same motherboard. Give it a base name (i.e. AX5000) and let the rest be variations (AX5000/10, AX5000/20, AX5000/40).


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Metalheart 
Re: What's in a name?
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PowerAmiga (scrap the ''ONE'')

And the further naming:

1000 (the entry level system)
2000
3000
4000
5000 (the most expanded or fastest CPY type system)

Folowed by:

/2 (for dual core)
/4 (for quad core)

So we get a PowerAmiga 4000/4 @2.5 ghz for example

ps, I know we are stuck with AmigaOne..... (stupid decision back then IMHO)
ps2: use PowerAmiga X4000 etc for Aeons products or not and use the X always for all I care.
Martin

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why would A-Eon start now with naming such as A5000 etc when it was ACube that brought us out of the dark with new hardware with their Sam boards

Seems to me A-Eon would be slighting ACubes massive contribution to our community by naming the successor to the successful X1000, A5000, A6000 etc.

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Sorry guys but when we will have a machine 16 cpu and 10ghz you will call it

PowerAmiga X16000@10ghz
will be fun see the Flayer and the box with such big writes on it.
All world company try to minimize the names and make it simple in reading

Eg
Apple: Imac, Ibook, MacPro, Ipad, Iphone,Mini
Samsung: Galaxy S1 S2 S3
Sony: Vayo, Ps4
Nintendo: WiiU
Microsoft: Xbox One

and ... Aeon ... AmigaOne X3000@ 5030

AmigaQ³ for 5030

or simply
Amiga³ (for 5030)
Amiga² (for P3041)

Simply name who rember the past, double o triple o quadruple for make user understand the power of the machine , simply can make marketing and comunication, gave the right message of what we are speaking about ...

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First choice:
(8)

AmigaONE Q3041
AmigaONE Q5020
AmigaONE Q5040

Note: Favourite of my mother.


Second choice:
(12)
AmigaONE X3041
AmigaONE X5020
AmigaONE X5040

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Kicko 
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X1100
X1200
X1300

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Metalheart 
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@ tlosm

Yes that is also a very good point !

What about :

PowerAmiga X2000
PowerAmiga X3000

Since we cant use just Amiga....

And then in the tech papers the whole core and speed thing ?

But what when there are more of the same machine with just a different clockspeed ?


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Wasn't the original idea of that One in AmigaOne the machine has one CPU or CPU core. So dual core should be AmigaTwo and four core AmigaFour. PowerAmiga sounds more cool definetly. (But I guess it's all of licensing what names can be used.)

Q sounds cute but I think X should be kept so people knows it's a follower of X1000.

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Quote:
(scrap the ''ONE'')


I agree - never understood why it was kept as it was a throwback from the old Amiga Inc. days of talking and no action when (if memory serves correct) it was used to indicate the number of CPUs or cores in each machine - there would have been an AmigaTWO etc.

I don't like the 'Power' name either (no brand awareness) - just stick with Amiga and a model number.


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Yes Amiga with a model number, but I dont think Amiga can be used for computers (licensing crap) or has it expired and can it be used now ?


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@-Sam-

Quote:
agree - never understood why it was kept as it was a throwback from the old Amiga Inc. days


Hyperion has exclusive licence to "AmigaOne" or "Amiga One" names, so plain Amiga (or PowerAmiga) is not possible without additional licence from Amiga.Inc. In good and bad, AmigaOne brand is tied to PowerPC Amiga generation. So be it.

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