@Cyborg

"AmigaOS 4.x is an actively developed product on sale"

Great, happy to read that !

Therefore, is a "loyal customer" like me can ask why FE was released more than 1 year ago and why no fix were published (despite a lot of bug reports on your forum) ?

I'm sure that "loyal customers" support is the highest priority of your company.

Thank you, by advance, for your reply.

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Well said

14 years in development and still no real printer support. Workbench Gui has still not been updated and then there'sa the SMP and memory protection debate. So if its actively being developed then lets see some progress.

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I use a HP Laserjet 1320n over intranet and it works with every program i tried so far.

...so, printer support is there

I use the GUI everyday, not sure what you are missing but it does what i need it to do.

...so, not really need a GUI update

SMP and memory protection...yes, that would truly be nice to have, but my system works, i can do anything with it i like (even Office...soonish)

...so, you know

@Cyborg

Just to give you my best wishes for further development

@ Cyborg

Looking forward to playing with OS4.1 FE on X5000
Hope it will happen soon

I've nothing against them speaking up and protecting the IP. But they could've been a bit more tactical. Especially regarding this part:

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it is even more sad to see [...] remaining active users happily participate in distributing this unauthorised copy [...] biting the hand that feeds them

Freely quoting a comment on Facebook on the same matter: it's the community that feeds them, not the other way around.

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I use a HP Laserjet 1320n over intranet and it works with every program i tried so far. ...so, printer support is there

When I use same logic as you did:
Cool to know OS4.x support one printer, that is no longer manufactured.

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I use the GUI everyday, not sure what you are missing but it does what i need it to do. ...so, not really need a GUI update

There can be people who used modern GUIs on other systems and can have different demands now than you.

I have since christmas a Hp Officejet 6820 and it works well with my X1000 Os 4.1Fe

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@ExiE

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When I use same logic as you did: Cool to know OS4.x support one printer, that is no longer manufactured.

I can print here just fine (printer connected to my Linux machine and shared via network). Nothing special with the printer either, it's just a regular HP LaserJet 2100.

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There can be people who used modern GUIs on other systems and can have different demands now than you.

No-one is forcing those people to use an OS they don't/won't like.

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@zzd10h

If we are talking about bugfixes... biggest part of OS4 users is still waiting for proper Z3 RAM support.

One thing I hate about Amiga OS / workbench is when you open folders it keeps opening multiply windows so you end up with a screen full of windows. Forward and back buttons and a single window would be nice or even better single window with dual panes oh that sounds like the opus way of doing things which we have had for years cant we have this as a standard feature / option?

Printer support for new printers is not to great I bet. Turbo print is still going would it not be a good idea for Hyperion to contact them to see if they could do some kind of deal to integrate it into OS4.1

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@g01df1sh

You can set in Workbench prefs to close parent drawer when opening child drawer. Not ideal, but sometimes useable.

Well that's a slight improvement then just need the forward and back buttons.

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@Hyperion

Is your main Business about legal things or development of AmigaOS?

I try to understand, why I am able to read a proper press release after the unimportant Source leak but the communication to customers and the Amiga community is pretty bad.

I am disappointed, because I do not see much of a development. Steven Solie tried to explain at AmiWest, but honestly; that was just looking for excuses.

The blog on your website is another big joke. Posts about SMP and other weird ideas are a good idea, but please...

So - enough criticism from my part. If you want to do something good, do this:

1. Build a professional group of developers who manage the single parts of the OS with a group of coders in Asia: They are faster, cheaper and really good. Everyone who doesn't like this idea, was never in Vietnam.

2. Show a Roadmap and a Strategy and share it with the community.

3. Stop seeing the community as your enemy. Your attitude towards the Amiga Community is not the best.

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I use a HP Laserjet 1320n over intranet and it works with every program i tried so far.

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When I use same logic as you did Cool to know OS4.x support one printer, that is no longer manufactured.:

The HP Envy got sold and I am now the owner of a Xerox WorkCentre 3225 so this is one that is out there and you can buy and I am pleased to say that this works rather well in OS4.1 FE using a number of drivers that come with OS4.1 most notably one of the HP laserjet and Epson X Drivers as well as Postscript as the printer supports PCL3 emulation Epson Emulation and PS

So yes there is printer support, but you have to ensure that the print isn't a host based one and supports postscript.

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@Birbo

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but the communication to customers and the Amiga community is pretty bad.

They answered my questions here on AW (forums/PM), what they could do more?

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Build a professional group of developers who manage the single parts of the OS with a group of coders in Asia: They are faster, cheaper and really good. Everyone who doesn't like this idea, was never in Vietnam.

You think all OS4 developers are paid?

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Show a Roadmap and a Strategy and share it with the community.

4.2 roadmap is known... at least since 2010 (if you don´t count Fleecy´s roadmap ).

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Stop seeing the community as your enemy. Your attitude towards the Amiga Community is not the best.

If you mean members of our community celebrating everything bad towards Hyperion or OS4, then they get what they deserve...

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If you mean members of our community celebrating everything bad towards Hyperion or OS4, then they get what they deserve...

As a lifetime amigan and 'potential' owner of os4 IF i buy AmigaForever or FE, would love to feel safe in my investment and have my shoulders covered rather than being pointed as necessary evil and gave the bare minimum or less; in that is not the best customer service they offer.

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@saimon69

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in that is not the best customer service they offer.

So you are Hyperion´s customer?

if they treat real customers like i see then hardly might join the club,
[at least until i got a new laptop to replace the dead one]
but this does not esume me to say what i think, regardless of your belief.

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@pavlor
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If we are talking about bugfixes... biggest part of OS4 users is still waiting for proper Z3 RAM support.

That's not a bug, but an intentional decision of Hyperion to don't do it, even already having a patched kernel for solving this issue.

They only want money from people which uses their o.s. under emulation, but without hurting the sells of the so called "NG machines" which'll come.

@cdimauro

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even already having a patched kernel for solving this issue.

Probably old pre-FE kernel. I will wait for Update 9 (or what they will call it) and then judge.

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They only want money from people which uses their o.s. under emulation

Fair enough. I bought 4.1, 4.1FE and will gladly pay for 4.2 too.

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but without hurting the sells of the so called "NG machines" which'll come.

On the other hand, with enough RAM WinUAE could be good intoduction to OS4 world for future hardware customers. Don´t search any conspiracy, it is more probably only ideological barrier (emulation? what blasphemy! ).