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The above period is a bit wide, due to a lack of data, but I believe we still see a sharp rise of forum activity, well above last year's average.

For comparison the statistics for this week:

Total Topics 14155 | Total Posts: 200914. That's on average 376.9 new postings/day for our forums!

So we are currently way ahead of last year's averages.

Amiga.org had Total Topics: 17305 | Total Posts: 275898. So that's 170.3 postings/day.

Combined with replies on news items, image gallery and polls I believe it's currently safe to say that AmigaWorld.net offers by far the most active Amiga forum anywhere on the internet today.

@MikeB

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Combined with replies on news items, image gallery and polls I believe it's currently safe to say that AmigaWorld.net offers by far the most active Amiga forum anywhere on the internet today.

Yes but quantity isn't always quality!

Example: http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=12553&forum=4#173257

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Yes but quantity isn't always quality!

And I thought Amiga is always high quality...

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Yes but quantity isn't always quality!

Agreed, but I believe the general level of quality postings shown here at AW is very good and actually of a higher level than on most other forums. Many insightful and informative messages can be found. Not the short meaningless messages like "it sucks", "it's dead", "You are a (insert today'' s favourite insult)" as can be found at some forums...

Quality unlike quantity cannot be measured objectively. So that's subject to personal opinions and preferences.

Personally I believe the generally more moderate tone and more civil communication by AW''s members (especially compared to non-moderated forums, the unfounded and unchallenged allegations at some forums are IMO ridiculous) here are important reasons why those who would otherwise stay silent feel more confident to share their ideas on issues (less belittling, insulting, etc) or feel more obliged to help people out with their problems (happy appreciative userbase).

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Yes but quantity isn't always quality!

hey even when it is just fluff and flame it is still quality fluff and flame.

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@MikeB

I wasn't having a dig, agreed this is the BEST place for any Amiga enthusiast, but I thought I would raise the point anyway, that you can have a lot of rambling and it doesn't have to necessarily have any importance.

As a point of Interest, I have known and read amiga.org and ann.lu before amigaworld, IIRC but I have posted here well over 600 times and about 3 on a.org and none anywhere else. I know quality when I see it.

Apart from the occasional browse elsewhere, this is my one-stop shop for anything Amiga.

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@MikeB

Statistics, like everything else, can be twisted to mean anything you want. In this case, if it's truly felt that "Amigaworld.net is the greatest" (whatever that means, and whomever you feel you're competing against), then you wouldn't feel the need to constantly post "we're the greatest" to validate your opinion.

In this particular case, Amiga.org has been in existence for over 10 years. During which time, our forum database has been obliterated several times when we were younger, and is voluntarily purged of old posts (usually posts which haven't been replied to in over a year) on a continuing basis. Also, there is no data on how long such posting numbers took to accumulate, so saying that you have xyz posts per day is quite a leap of statistical logic in itself.

As for "we're xyz user's strong", I can't (of course) speak for AW.net but Amiga.org's user database is automatically pruned every day to eliminate inactive accounts which;

1) Have not been logged into in 6 months
2) AND have zero posts, news items, or other contributions
3) OR have not been validated within 8 hours.

Using this formula, we tend to keep a bit more accurate measure of active Amiga.org user accounts. 6 months is pretty much the optimum compromise to say "maybe a user spent a month on vacation, but if a user hasn't come back in 6 months, they probably won't". Besides, a little maintenance every day helps keep the Doomys away. That idiot has been known to create bogus accounts as far in advance as 12 months.

Anyway, I thought we agreed, you and I, that this continual unneccessary competition wasn't doing the Amiga community any good, and that we should actually work together to promote the platform rather than to keep up the traditional "mine is bigger" modus operandi?

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1) Have not been logged into in 6 months

Me silently wanders off to visit amiga.org

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Hey have you all forgotten Helgis?

He can easily post 50 messages / day if something exites him.

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@Samwel

Love the avatar by the way...

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@Wayne

Yeah, me to! HNL_DK did a great job with it.

I just love Ice Age the movie.. In the swedish version Sweden's
funniest guy does Sid the Sloth.. He's absolutely great in this
part. The english original is quite good also

Now that you got me going with these computer animated movies
I must talk about Robots and Madagascar also..

Both these had me ROFLMAO hehe.. Robin Williams in Robots is
so damn funny..
And Madagascars Ben Stiller, Chris Rock and David Schwimmer does
some hillarious stuff.. And the monkey king and the pengiuns
Everybody must see these movies, absolutely great!

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@Wayne

i visit amiga.org more regularly again mostly because it seems to have gained abit back of its true value though it still is having problems in the things that interests me...stuff like interesting topics and yes i know..why not just post one myself ? but then again i hardly start topics here either (well not compared to my post count anyway).

I check in on aw and ao everyday and several times for that matter and i certainly aint visiting other amiga oriented sites this often.

anyway its nice to see ao back on track imo as i loved that place for many many years until the mos propaganda blew the site sideways and made it just boring.

anyway i think that Amiga.org get more new users daily than here on aw though that doesnt mean its good since most of them who join seem to be very green or just into emulation or whatever but i must say (again) that there has been quite a few brilliant personalities popping up there lately which havent set their foot here yet.

and yes... the death of doommaster was fun

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i think i have yet to see or hear a day that helgis aint excited

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i think i have yet to see or hear a day that helgis aint excited

Seen that, though he was depressed that day, I'd rather see him excited

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@Toaks

That's almost true.. There was those days before update 3 and after
his A1 broke when he was almost led astray to the "dark" side..

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@Wayne

Oh you're THAT Wayne!!!
I didn't know you where the Wayne famous for amiga.org until now..

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Statistics, like everything else, can be twisted to mean anything you want.

I don't agree. Not objectively at least (Although I agree statistics can be faked or misrepresented, as IMO is not the case here).

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In this case, if it's truly felt that "Amigaworld.net is the greatest"

That's your personal subjective interpretation...

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(usually posts which haven't been replied to in over a year) on a continuing basis. Also, there is no data on how long such posting numbers took to accumulate, so saying that you have xyz posts per day is quite a leap of statistical logic in itself.

If true then we should solely focuss on the most recent data, the data from the last week for this matter. But in the case of AW this is higher than last year's average and in the case of AO is lower than AO's last year's average...

Add yes I do have the data (for both AW and AO) which shows how long posting numbers took to accumulate!!

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eliminate inactive accounts which; 1) Have not been logged into in 6 months

That's quite encouraging! Especially considering AW usually seems to have more logged-in members, but AO always had a far higher membership count since AmigaWorld's beginning! This seems to indicate that there are still many thousands of active AO visitors. And some claim the Amiga community is "dead"...

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Anyway, I thought we agreed, you and I, that this continual unneccessary competition wasn't doing the Amiga community any good

I would never agree to that. I am a vivid advocate of friendly competition as well as co-operation like I suggested to you. I am also a statistics freak and the usual analyst would tell you that "statistics" have very little value if you have nothing to compare this data to. In this case I am comparing the data to past data and current data of one of the more prominent leading alternatives. IMO it's better to look at this positively than negatively.

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Helgis

Although I agree with you that Helgis is a very active forum participant. On average he posted 2.3 forum postings/day, so not anywhere near 50.

@Wayne

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no data on how long such posting numbers took to accumulate

People can varify the statistics by using Archive.org's Wayback Machine as a source. The Internet Archive takes irregular snapshots of all kinds of webpages, including forum pages from AmigaWorld.net and Amiga.org community portals.

Interesting stuff.