@RobertJDohnert

I can download Ubuntu LTS for 0 USD, and AROS nightly for 0 USD, it saves me 60 USD, there is no money to be made on this really.

Some one tried whit Xamiga distribution it is now a dead project.
CommodoreOS is also a dead.

Basically is too easy to install AROS, or AmigaOS in UAE, there can't be possessible be a market for it.

http://amikit.amiga.sk/

You can also get a Linux distribution that just like one your trying to make:

AEROS Linux distribution, it can also be downloaded for free.

http://www.eol.ucar.edu/raf/Software/aeros_dnld.html

You can also get AmigaForever as Live CD, Amiga Forever KX Light that runs on Knoppx Debian.

http://www.amigaforever.com/kxlight/

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@Hypex

Well all the hardware we sell is certified and runs well.

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@RobertJDohnert

Yes this windows “certified” computers it reminds me.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6144782.stm

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@RobertJDohnert

I kept thinking I misunderstood what you were trying to do, or there was a thread I missed or something. But from a business perspective your approach frankly looks insane to me ... so I guess it may be a good thing your machines are certified.

First off, your machines are priced higher than most can get at their local stores. For those who bargain hunt and are in the US, when desktops go on sale at Staples and similar stores, you can get nice desktops for $300-$500.

And as stated, it's super easy to download Ubuntu or Mint, install UAE, and even AROS ... all for free.

Frankly speaking, Acer isn't the best brand. They are sort of the cheapo machines you get when they are on a super sale or something. Nowadays most desktops are sort of iffy as it is (unless you build them yourself), but Acer and quality are two terms rarely seen together.

This may sound harsh, but it's the way it appears to me. Now, if you support AROS, that isn't a bad thing, of course. And if your Linux OS4 works well on PPC Amigas, then I guess some people may want it... although I still have no idea why your distribution is any better than Ubuntu or Mint. And I see no sane person paying for the x86 version, or your Acer rebanded hardware.

Maybe you could put up a thread showing the benefits of your Linux OS4 over alternatives? Do you have a fancy Amiga-ish user interface or some features missing from the more popular Ubuntu distributions?

I'm also not impressed with the package. I think a more ambitious and worthy project would be to build an Amiga operating system with new technologies, but within the spirit of the classic Amiga OS that maintains some backward compatibility through APIs, keep a lot of UI/UX concepts (namely Workbench and other unique traits), etc...

Repackaging a bunch of random Amiga related software on Linux is just not that appealing.

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I agree. I am not a fan of Linux, at least not related to Amiga stuff, but if they were going to go that route, I'd prefer to see something like what Anubis was supposed to be. Use a Linux kernal, but create an Amiga-ish OS around it, include Amiga APIs, and use an Amiga-like GUI. Build in a compatibility layer (or incorporate UAE + kickstart) for 68K compatibility.

I realize this may not be easy, and perhaps it's beyond the capabilities of this group, but that is really the only type of Linux/Amiga hybrid I'd like to ever see. Simply taking the equivalent to Ubuntu or any freebie Linux and tacking on Amiga Forever/AROS, isn't really a whole lot. And definitely not worth paying a premium for.

There are other things they could have done, such as Linux OS4 + AROS + UAE for ARM devices, which I think would be much more worthwhile. But it may be difficult to charge $60-90+ or whatever it costs, for a $35 device, I guess.

@Boot_WB

After reading this thread, the main thing I took away is that I now really want to try MorphOS! Boot, you should be a salesman for those guys.. you totally make me want to check that out.

Now where do I pick up an old Mac?

@netrot

Why not Coke Zero?

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@tommywright

Lol!

Not my intention, I was kinda hoping for a reply from Roberto though.

Seems strange to claim to want to 'get the community on side', then pointedly (or perhaps that's just my interpretation) not mention a major part of it.

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Now where do I pick up an old Mac?

In LA? I thought the streets would be paved with them.

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@DiscreetFX

right......100 % Linux.......zero AmigaOS^^

@number6

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You're calling Acer a liar then?

I don't know about Acer, but I'm calling Mr. Dohnert a liar.

His website claims (at least today, past experience tells us it's going to vanish soon):

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We are pleased to announce that we have come to terms with Cloanto on the redistribution and licensing of their popular product Amiga Forever.

From what I hear, that's not true - Mr. Dohnert does not have an agreement with Cloanto. Maybe they were discussing one, I don't know about that. But AFAIK, there is no existing agreement between Dohnert and Cloanto.

At best, he's just reselling packages he's buying elsewehere - assuming he's ever going to ship a copy of his ridiculous 'bundle'.

Please guys, stop feeding that troll.

@cgutjahr

it seems that the announcement was wrong in the sense of a signed contract with Cloanto.

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@OlafS25

If there was a agreement don't you think Cloanto post it on there web page as news.

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@NutsAboutAmiga

there is no "contract" at the moment between them and Cloanto. It would be better if Roberto would not overdo his announcements just for marketing purposes and better stay strict at reality f.e. "we have secured a number of licenses and are in negotiations for a longterm deal" or similar.

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@OlafS25

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there is no "contract" at the moment between them and Cloanto. It would be better if Roberto would not overdo his announcements just for marketing purposes and better stay strict at reality f.e. "we have secured a number of licenses and are in negotiations for a longterm deal" or similar.

So long term support here is just buying newer AF and bundling it with OS4 Linux. Money still goes to Cloanto, but nothing near official partnership that could e.g. lower the prices, bring mutual development etc.

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@Kronos

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@vox

they are in contact and there are of course different sources for licenses so the announcement is not "totally wrong". But the impression that they have a deal direct with Cloanto is wrong, a "lie". I would recommend Roberto to stay strict at the truth and do not make untrue (or at least overdone) announcements because it does give them no credibility (at least in the community).

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@OlafS25

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it seems that the announcement was wrong in the sense

It's called a lie, Olaf.

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better stay strict at reality

LOL.

Mr. Dohnert is never going to offer anything useful for us. That's a cold, hard fact. Thus, he contributes the only thing he can contribute - press releases and similar marketing bullshit. Obviously, these press releases can't "stay strict at reality", because "I'm not going to offer anything useful to you, ever" does not make a good press release. So he needs to keep making things up, to produce interesting PRs.

Economists refer to this MO as the "??????? approach".

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@cgutjahr

"Economists refer to this MO as the "DiscreetFX approach"."

Never read that in Handelsblatt

@RobertJDohnert

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ACER supports OS4

No. Acer may support OS4 Linux but not OS4.
If you can't do mistakes, I suggest a name change

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